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galen at myhome

Apr 21, 2005, 8:02 PM

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Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search)

I'm looking for some suggestions for an inexpensive AGP video card
here. I'm building a stand-alone HDTV system, there are no other
planned uses (no games, etc), with an Athlon 64 3200, possibly an A64
3500 depending on cost when I purchase. Motherboard supports AGP 8x. In
theory, the graphics card doesn't need to be something too massive,
just a solid conduit to the screen, perhaps with XvMC to boost
performance a little. In particular, I would like to be able to run
full 1920 x 1080 via DVI, be able to use a DVI to VGA adapter if
desired (pretty standard), and boot directly to S-Video (for when I am
hooked to an analog TV). Is such a thing possible? Can you offer any
suggestions?

Yes, I did search, but I'm having a little difficulty putting
everything together; 1920x1080 DVI issues, S-Video booting, etc. Your
help would be appreciated.

As for my background, I'm a spoiled Mac user working on plans for an
HDTV MythTV box. :P I'm really comfortable with the unix-stuff on the
software-only side, but the hardware and driver stuff, especially under
Linux requires some adjustment on my part! I'm used to hardware working
or not with pretty straightforward drivers (and in most cases, none at
all - it just works), and the thought of recompiling my kernel for
hardware support is still slightly amusing to me. I'm sure it will
become serious enough soon enough, however! I have done some work on my
darwin kernel under OS X, manually patching it to change the power
management for my laptop, but that was super non-standard stuff. I've
also made some custom builds of VLC for OpenGL accelerated YUV
conversion, custom builds of DVD rippers for enhanced quality encoding,
etc. So I'm not a dummy, but I'm just not an x86/Linux hardware expert,
if that makes any sense to you people out there.

-Galen

galen at myhome

Apr 21, 2005, 8:20 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I forgot to mention this, I am not interested in dual displays or
anything fancy like that. I'm basically building a box that is designed
to connect to a tv/projector/computer display (CRT/LCD). I'm looking to
make it semi-portable actually, which is why I want so many different
interfaces in one card. I just want to hook up the box at the new
location, boot it, and be set to go with just about any TV interface -
without hauling around an extra monitor or anything.

-Galen

On Apr 21, 2005, at 8:02 PM, Galen wrote:

> I'm looking for some suggestions for an inexpensive AGP video card
> here. I'm building a stand-alone HDTV system, there are no other
> planned uses (no games, etc), with an Athlon 64 3200, possibly an A64
> 3500 depending on cost when I purchase. Motherboard supports AGP 8x.
> In theory, the graphics card doesn't need to be something too massive,
> just a solid conduit to the screen, perhaps with XvMC to boost
> performance a little. In particular, I would like to be able to run
> full 1920 x 1080 via DVI, be able to use a DVI to VGA adapter if
> desired (pretty standard), and boot directly to S-Video (for when I am
> hooked to an analog TV). Is such a thing possible? Can you offer any
> suggestions?
>
> Yes, I did search, but I'm having a little difficulty putting
> everything together; 1920x1080 DVI issues, S-Video booting, etc. Your
> help would be appreciated.
>
> As for my background, I'm a spoiled Mac user working on plans for an
> HDTV MythTV box. :P I'm really comfortable with the unix-stuff on the
> software-only side, but the hardware and driver stuff, especially
> under Linux requires some adjustment on my part! I'm used to hardware
> working or not with pretty straightforward drivers (and in most cases,
> none at all - it just works), and the thought of recompiling my kernel
> for hardware support is still slightly amusing to me. I'm sure it will
> become serious enough soon enough, however! I have done some work on
> my darwin kernel under OS X, manually patching it to change the power
> management for my laptop, but that was super non-standard stuff. I've
> also made some custom builds of VLC for OpenGL accelerated YUV
> conversion, custom builds of DVD rippers for enhanced quality
> encoding, etc. So I'm not a dummy, but I'm just not an x86/Linux
> hardware expert, if that makes any sense to you people out there.
>
> -Galen
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

bhalter at armyofpenguins

Apr 21, 2005, 8:58 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and
S-Video, supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA dumps
all output to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed. Only down
side is there's a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the GF4***, though
I'm not sure if those support DVI.

--Bryan

Galen wrote:

> I'm looking for some suggestions for an inexpensive AGP video card
> here. I'm building a stand-alone HDTV system, there are no other
> planned uses (no games, etc), with an Athlon 64 3200, possibly an A64
> 3500 depending on cost when I purchase. Motherboard supports AGP 8x.
> In theory, the graphics card doesn't need to be something too massive,
> just a solid conduit to the screen, perhaps with XvMC to boost
> performance a little. In particular, I would like to be able to run
> full 1920 x 1080 via DVI, be able to use a DVI to VGA adapter if
> desired (pretty standard), and boot directly to S-Video (for when I am
> hooked to an analog TV). Is such a thing possible? Can you offer any
> suggestions?
>
> Yes, I did search, but I'm having a little difficulty putting
> everything together; 1920x1080 DVI issues, S-Video booting, etc. Your
> help would be appreciated.
>
> As for my background, I'm a spoiled Mac user working on plans for an
> HDTV MythTV box. :P I'm really comfortable with the unix-stuff on the
> software-only side, but the hardware and driver stuff, especially
> under Linux requires some adjustment on my part! I'm used to hardware
> working or not with pretty straightforward drivers (and in most cases,
> none at all - it just works), and the thought of recompiling my kernel
> for hardware support is still slightly amusing to me. I'm sure it will
> become serious enough soon enough, however! I have done some work on
> my darwin kernel under OS X, manually patching it to change the power
> management for my laptop, but that was super non-standard stuff. I've
> also made some custom builds of VLC for OpenGL accelerated YUV
> conversion, custom builds of DVD rippers for enhanced quality
> encoding, etc. So I'm not a dummy, but I'm just not an x86/Linux
> hardware expert, if that makes any sense to you people out there.
>
> -Galen
>
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>
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galen at myhome

Apr 21, 2005, 9:13 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I have been eyeing the 5200FX as an inexpensive option actually. Does
the s-video output vary from brand to brand? I really like the idea of
having the video output to s-video if there's no other display. Does
the fan vary in volume/presence from brand to brand? I would imagine
that at least the fan varies from brand to brand, if not the s-video
and possibly other attributes - can anybody specify brands if relevant?

Has anybody tested the 1920 x 1080 DVI out? I thought I heard there
were issues with this. I'm basically looking to output full-resolution
HDTV to a device like a LCD monitor. Am I completely off-base, or have
their been issues with this?

Out of curiosity, does the VRAM have any impact on performance,
particularly with XvMC? Is XvMC a universal thing, or are higher-end
cards required to handle XvMC and 1080i? I'm not exactly in the mood to
decrypt white papers regarding XvMC or dig through source code and try
to understand how precisely it works and how that would apply to answer
this practical question... if there's a nice bit of practical
documentation on XvMC somewhere on the net that I'm not finding with
Google, I'd love it if someone would point me in that direction.

Thanks!

-Galen

On Apr 21, 2005, at 8:58 PM, Bryan Halter wrote:

> I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and
> S-Video, supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA
> dumps all output to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed.�
> Only down side is there's a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the
> GF4***, though I'm not sure if those support DVI.
>
> --Bryan
>
> Galen wrote:I'm looking for some suggestions for an inexpensive AGP
> video card here. I'm building a stand-alone HDTV system, there are no
> other planned uses (no games, etc), with an Athlon 64 3200, possibly
> an A64 3500 depending on cost when I purchase. Motherboard supports
> AGP 8x. In theory, the graphics card doesn't need to be something too
> massive, just a solid conduit to the screen, perhaps with XvMC to
> boost performance a little. In particular, I would like to be able to
> run full 1920 x 1080 via DVI, be able to use a DVI to VGA adapter if
> desired (pretty standard), and boot directly to S-Video (for when I am
> hooked to an analog TV). Is such a thing possible? Can you offer any
> suggestions?
>>
>> Yes, I did search, but I'm having a little difficulty putting
>> everything together; 1920x1080 DVI issues, S-Video booting, etc. Your
>> help would be appreciated.
>>
>> As for my background, I'm a spoiled Mac user working on plans for an
>> HDTV MythTV box. :P I'm really comfortable with the unix-stuff on the
>> software-only side, but the hardware and driver stuff, especially
>> under Linux requires some adjustment on my part! I'm used to hardware
>> working or not with pretty straightforward drivers (and in most
>> cases, none at all - it just works), and the thought of recompiling
>> my kernel for hardware support is still slightly amusing to me. I'm
>> sure it will become serious enough soon enough, however! I have done
>> some work on my darwin kernel under OS X, manually patching it to
>> change the power management for my laptop, but that was super
>> non-standard stuff. I've also made some custom builds of VLC for
>> OpenGL accelerated YUV conversion, custom builds of DVD rippers for
>> enhanced quality encoding, etc. So I'm not a dummy, but I'm just not
>> an x86/Linux hardware expert, if that makes any sense to you people
>> out there.
>>
>> -Galen
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mythtv-users mailing list
>> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>>
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bhalter at armyofpenguins

Apr 22, 2005, 6:31 AM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I don't find the fan intrusive, but that doesn't mean you won't. I've
only used the 800x600 S-Video connector so somebody else will have to
comment on 1080i.

--Bryan

Galen wrote:

> I'm looking for some suggestions for an inexpensive AGP video card
> here. I'm building a stand-alone HDTV system, there are no other
> planned uses (no games, etc), with an Athlon 64 3200, possibly an A64
> 3500 depending on cost when I purchase. Motherboard supports AGP 8x.
> In theory, the graphics card doesn't need to be something too massive,
> just a solid conduit to the screen, perhaps with XvMC to boost
> performance a little. In particular, I would like to be able to run
> full 1920 x 1080 via DVI, be able to use a DVI to VGA adapter if
> desired (pretty standard), and boot directly to S-Video (for when I am
> hooked to an analog TV). Is such a thing possible? Can you offer any
> suggestions?
>
> Yes, I did search, but I'm having a little difficulty putting
> everything together; 1920x1080 DVI issues, S-Video booting, etc. Your
> help would be appreciated.
>
> As for my background, I'm a spoiled Mac user working on plans for an
> HDTV MythTV box. :P I'm really comfortable with the unix-stuff on the
> software-only side, but the hardware and driver stuff, especially
> under Linux requires some adjustment on my part! I'm used to hardware
> working or not with pretty straightforward drivers (and in most cases,
> none at all - it just works), and the thought of recompiling my kernel
> for hardware support is still slightly amusing to me. I'm sure it will
> become serious enough soon enough, however! I have done some work on
> my darwin kernel under OS X, manually patching it to change the power
> management for my laptop, but that was super non-standard stuff. I've
> also made some custom builds of VLC for OpenGL accelerated YUV
> conversion, custom builds of DVD rippers for enhanced quality
> encoding, etc. So I'm not a dummy, but I'm just not an x86/Linux
> hardware expert, if that makes any sense to you people out there.
>
> -Galen
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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>mythtv-users mailing list
>mythtv-users [at] mythtv
>http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>

scottfarrand at msn

Apr 22, 2005, 6:34 AM

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RE: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

There are 5200FX cards that are fanless. with DVI/SVID/VGA output.

I want to know about other's success with DVI - HDMI for HD output. any
success or failure out there with this?

_____

From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Bryan Halter
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:58 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did
search)

I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and S-Video,
supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA dumps all output
to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed. Only down side is there's
a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the GF4***, though I'm not sure if
those support DVI.

jonathan.watmough at gmail

Apr 22, 2005, 6:43 AM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I think the Kaser 5200FX is Fanless. I own a couple of these, one in
my Myth box, and one stuffed into my work machine driving a couple of
19 in monitors.

This card is $69.99 at Fry's and has VGA, S-Video and DVI outputs. A
S-Vid to composite connector is included, though sadly a DVI to VGA is
not.

For what it's worth, the TV output of the ATI 9200 does look a bit
better to me (GF's setup with Win XP and VLC) but having tried to get
Linux running on it, I refuse to mess with ATI on Linux, and the
NVidia S-out is decent enough.

Cheers
Jonathan

On 4/22/05, Scott Farrand <scottfarrand [at] msn> wrote:
>
>
>
> There are 5200FX cards that are fanless� with DVI/SVID/VGA output.
>
>
>
> I want to know about other's success with DVI � HDMI for HD output� any
> success or failure out there with this?
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Bryan Halter
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:58 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did
> search)
>
>
>
> I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and S-Video,
> supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA dumps all output
> to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed. Only down side is there's
> a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the GF4***, though I'm not sure if
> those support DVI.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users [at] mythtv
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
>
>

sharris at synthys

Apr 22, 2005, 11:21 AM

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RE: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Galen
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card?
> (Yes, I did search)
>
> I have been eyeing the 5200FX as an inexpensive option
> actually. Does the s-video output vary from brand to brand? I
> really like the idea of having the video output to s-video if
> there's no other display. Does the fan vary in
> volume/presence from brand to brand? I would imagine that at
> least the fan varies from brand to brand, if not the s-video
> and possibly other attributes - can anybody specify brands if
> relevant?
>
> Has anybody tested the 1920 x 1080 DVI out? I thought I heard
> there were issues with this. I'm basically looking to output
> full-resolution HDTV to a device like a LCD monitor. Am I
> completely off-base, or have their been issues with this?
>
> Out of curiosity, does the VRAM have any impact on
> performance, particularly with XvMC? Is XvMC a universal
> thing, or are higher-end cards required to handle XvMC and
> 1080i? I'm not exactly in the mood to decrypt white papers
> regarding XvMC or dig through source code and try to
> understand how precisely it works and how that would apply to
> answer this practical question... if there's a nice bit of
> practical documentation on XvMC somewhere on the net that I'm
> not finding with Google, I'd love it if someone would point
> me in that direction.
>
> Thanks!
>

If one were to get the 5200FX or other Nvidia card, and couple
it with a PVR-350, could you use the PVR for the signal decoding
and then output via the 5200FX? I'm assuming if this is possible
then a lot of us could solve our DVD problems by setting output
for DVD to the 5200.

aalsup at gmail

Apr 22, 2005, 10:56 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

I have a Kaser 5200FX and using DVI 1920x1080. Works fine as far as I can tell.

I tried getting ATI 9550 working first, but given the Nvidia support
here, I would highly recommend going with Nvidia. When (not if) you
have problems, you don't want to be the only one trying to use your
hardware with Myth.
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mythjoe at gmail

Apr 23, 2005, 9:27 AM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

no

On 4/22/05, Scott Harris <sharris [at] synthys> wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Galen
> > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:13 PM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card?
> > (Yes, I did search)
> >
> > I have been eyeing the 5200FX as an inexpensive option
> > actually. Does the s-video output vary from brand to brand? I
> > really like the idea of having the video output to s-video if
> > there's no other display. Does the fan vary in
> > volume/presence from brand to brand? I would imagine that at
> > least the fan varies from brand to brand, if not the s-video
> > and possibly other attributes - can anybody specify brands if
> > relevant?
> >
> > Has anybody tested the 1920 x 1080 DVI out? I thought I heard
> > there were issues with this. I'm basically looking to output
> > full-resolution HDTV to a device like a LCD monitor. Am I
> > completely off-base, or have their been issues with this?
> >
> > Out of curiosity, does the VRAM have any impact on
> > performance, particularly with XvMC? Is XvMC a universal
> > thing, or are higher-end cards required to handle XvMC and
> > 1080i? I'm not exactly in the mood to decrypt white papers
> > regarding XvMC or dig through source code and try to
> > understand how precisely it works and how that would apply to
> > answer this practical question... if there's a nice bit of
> > practical documentation on XvMC somewhere on the net that I'm
> > not finding with Google, I'd love it if someone would point
> > me in that direction.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> If one were to get the 5200FX or other Nvidia card, and couple
> it with a PVR-350, could you use the PVR for the signal decoding
> and then output via the 5200FX? I'm assuming if this is possible
> then a lot of us could solve our DVD problems by setting output
> for DVD to the 5200.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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mythjoe at gmail

Apr 23, 2005, 9:30 AM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

> If one were to get the 5200FX or other Nvidia card, and couple
> it with a PVR-350, could you use the PVR for the signal decoding
> and then output via the 5200FX? I'm assuming if this is possible
> then a lot of us could solve our DVD problems by setting output
> for DVD to the 5200.

No. Basically you're asking the computer to ship an MPEG2 stream over
the PCI bus to the PVR-350, have the 350 decode it, have 350 ship the
decoded video over to the video card***, and have the vid card display
it.

***There's essentially no path from the 350 to vid card.
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john.p.harvey at btinternet

Apr 23, 2005, 9:56 AM

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RE: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

> >
>
> If one were to get the 5200FX or other Nvidia card, and couple
> it with a PVR-350, could you use the PVR for the signal decoding
> and then output via the 5200FX? I'm assuming if this is possible
> then a lot of us could solve our DVD problems by setting output
> for DVD to the 5200.
>
There is no easy way of getting a decoded stream out of the 350 but I am
getting really close with YUV support for the 350 which means I can add Xv
support to the 350's x driver. Since there are multiple YUV buffers we
should be able to get smooth playback of dvd's fairly easily at that point
and I suspect the audio sync problems should be easy to solve or vanish as
well.
All I need is some time now to get something that should work.

John

sharris at synthys

Apr 23, 2005, 6:34 PM

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RE: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

>
> > >
> >
> > If one were to get the 5200FX or other Nvidia card, and
> couple it with
> > a PVR-350, could you use the PVR for the signal decoding and then
> > output via the 5200FX? I'm assuming if this is possible
> then a lot of
> > us could solve our DVD problems by setting output for DVD
> to the 5200.
> >
> There is no easy way of getting a decoded stream out of the
> 350 but I am getting really close with YUV support for the
> 350 which means I can add Xv support to the 350's x driver.
> Since there are multiple YUV buffers we should be able to get
> smooth playback of dvd's fairly easily at that point and I
> suspect the audio sync problems should be easy to solve or
> vanish as well.
> All I need is some time now to get something that should work.
>
> John
>
>
>

Your ideas intrigue me, and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Seriously, would love to see this working. Chris Kennedy just posted
today that he has this working as well:

"This allows YUV decoding to work, you can now do things like cat
/dev/video32 > /dev/video48 on your pvr350."

brad+myth at templetons

Apr 23, 2005, 6:38 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 10:56:14PM -0700, Andy Alsup wrote:
> I have a Kaser 5200FX and using DVI 1920x1080. Works fine as far as I can tell.

Is that with those new nvidia drivers? Nobody reported this to work
with older drivers.

garrycook at gmail

May 6, 2005, 1:48 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

On 4/22/05, Jonathan Watmough <jonathan.watmough [at] gmail> wrote:
> I think the Kaser 5200FX is Fanless. I own a couple of these, one in
> my Myth box, and one stuffed into my work machine driving a couple of
> 19 in monitors.
>
> This card is $69.99 at Fry's and has VGA, S-Video and DVI outputs. A
> S-Vid to composite connector is included, though sadly a DVI to VGA is
> not.
>
> For what it's worth, the TV output of the ATI 9200 does look a bit
> better to me (GF's setup with Win XP and VLC) but having tried to get
> Linux running on it, I refuse to mess with ATI on Linux, and the
> NVidia S-out is decent enough.
>
> Cheers
> Jonathan
>
> On 4/22/05, Scott Farrand <scottfarrand [at] msn> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > There are 5200FX cards that are fanless� with DVI/SVID/VGA output.
> >
> >
> >
> > I want to know about other's success with DVI � HDMI for HD output� any
> > success or failure out there with this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Bryan Halter
> > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:58 PM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did
> > search)
> >
> >
> >
> > I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and S-Video,
> > supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA dumps all output
> > to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed. Only down side is there's
> > a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the GF4***, though I'm not sure if
> > those support DVI.
> >

I picked up my FX5200 on ebay for $56 incl. shipping. It is made by
Gigabyte Technologies, and is fanless. Works great.

Garry

johan at global

May 6, 2005, 2:27 PM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

bestbargainpc.com has an fx5200/128 with both tvout and dvi currently for
$45 (including S&H.) They are the Chaintec SH5200-128-DVI, with heat sink,
and work great! (I have 2 of these) I found them through pricewatch.com

Johan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Garry Cook" <garrycook [at] gmail>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" <mythtv-users [at] mythtv>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did
search)

> On 4/22/05, Jonathan Watmough <jonathan.watmough [at] gmail> wrote:
>> I think the Kaser 5200FX is Fanless. I own a couple of these, one in
>> my Myth box, and one stuffed into my work machine driving a couple of
>> 19 in monitors.
>>
>> This card is $69.99 at Fry's and has VGA, S-Video and DVI outputs. A
>> S-Vid to composite connector is included, though sadly a DVI to VGA is
>> not.
>>
>> For what it's worth, the TV output of the ATI 9200 does look a bit
>> better to me (GF's setup with Win XP and VLC) but having tried to get
>> Linux running on it, I refuse to mess with ATI on Linux, and the
>> NVidia S-out is decent enough.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On 4/22/05, Scott Farrand <scottfarrand [at] msn> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > There are 5200FX cards that are fanless� with DVI/SVID/VGA output.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I want to know about other's success with DVI � HDMI for HD output� any
>> > success or failure out there with this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > From: mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv
>> > [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces [at] mythtv] On Behalf Of Bryan Halter
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 8:58 PM
>> > To: Discussion about mythtv
>> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I
>> > did
>> > search)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have an Nvidia 5200FX, comes in both PCI and AGP has DVI VGA and
>> > S-Video,
>> > supports XvMC and if no monitor is detected on DVI or VGA dumps all
>> > output
>> > to S-Video so there are no extra drivers needed. Only down side is
>> > there's
>> > a fan on it so its a bit noisier than the GF4***, though I'm not sure
>> > if
>> > those support DVI.
>> >
>
> I picked up my FX5200 on ebay for $56 incl. shipping. It is made by
> Gigabyte Technologies, and is fanless. Works great.
>
> Garry
>

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galen at myhome

May 7, 2005, 11:24 AM

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Re: Decent, Inexpensive Video Card? (Yes, I did search) [In reply to]

It sounds to me like the fx5200 is more than sufficient, and it
sounds like in general, DVI and TV out works properly. The fanless
part is a really nice feature, as the less heat and noise generated
in my machine, the happier I am - and less issues with cooling. The
cost is just great as well.

So now, the question:

Can anybody find reasons why I *would not* want the fx5200 for an
HDTV-based MythTV box? I am not planning to do anything major with
this box except play 720p and 1080i HDTV streams, and perhaps some
transcoded MPEG-4 versions thereof.

Thoughts?

-Galen

On May 6, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Johan Reinalda wrote:

> bestbargainpc.com has an fx5200/128 with both tvout and dvi
> currently for $45 (including S&H.) They are the Chaintec
> SH5200-128-DVI, with heat sink, and work great! (I have 2 of
> these) I found them through pricewatch.com
>
> Johan

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