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teus at theus

Feb 15, 2005, 4:46 AM

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Re: noticing the problems makes me nervous; how to myth success stories:-)

Some success and fix stories:

On my box FB51 Shuttle (on board graphics, multi channel sound, etc)
with TV mpeg
en/decoder Hauppauge PVR350, I run FC3 (Fedora Core 3) fully
updated/upgraded via apt-get.
I used the very well written documentation of Jarod's Fedora
Myth(TV)ology page:
http://wilsonet.com/mythtv
to install everything. And on any trouble I went back to this
documentation step by step to see what and where
things went wrong when something failed. That documentation was and
still is very helpfully to me.

I know most of the issues raised here are also ivtv issues. I do not
follow that ivtv list as my
time is fully consumed to read this email list.

An apt-get upgrade some weeks ago caused to broke my working setup: no
sound (alsa to AC97),
X11 on TV set up did not work (mem problems, frame buffer problems), and
it failed to tune to channels
with my IR remote after the upgrade.

As many issues are related to the goal of the set up, here is what I
want/use in my hw set up:
TV should show mythtv frontend, settings to be changed with the
Hauppauge remote IR control. Family uses a different language as I do
(NL versus UK).
So I'm living in a dutch PAL country. I use a TV CAT
cable->computer->scart->receiver->TV setup.

Last week I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.10-1.760_FC3 and got most things
to work again.
Here is what I did (and if I did not choose a smart choice please react
on that as there is
many to improve yet).

- Via a remote login: apt-get to install the new Linux FC3 kernel and
did reboot to new kernel

- How to prepare for kernel upgrade
disable via "chkconfig --level 35 XYZ off" the startup of lircd,
maythbackend
as well installation of kernel driver modules as ivtv, lirc, ivtv-fb,
sound
TIP: I changed the /etc/init.d/{lircd,mythbackend} startup files to
install via
/sbin/modprobe the kernel modules ivtv (mythbackend) and lirc-i2c
(lircd)
(and if those failed to exit with an error).
For lircd I included a "if [ ! -e /dev/lirc && -e /dev/lirc0 ]; then
ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc ; fi "
after the lirc-i2c kernel module installation command. This to avoid
lircd startup problems
(cannot find /dev/lirc), which one could easily check with the irw
shell command.

- How to upgrade the new kernel modules to the new version:
Via remote login: KVER=`uname -r` (see Jarod's HowTo)
apt-get install XYZ- kmdl-$KVER where XYZ is ivtv PVR, lirc IR, alsa
sound

- No sound in recordings problem, No PAL identified in driver problem
Things seem to be changed last month probably to avoid the tveeprom
and msp3400
kernel modules "which one first" problem. Modules which have been
changed in the ivtv setup.
You will recognize this: alsa sound works with e.g. aplay
some_file.wav but
no sound on video recordings or watching TV:
add the following to be added into your /etc/modprobe.conf file
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
and check if you have those modules as XYZ.o in /lib/modules/$KVER tree.
If you find msp3400.o twice and no msp3400-ivtv.o then you're having
an old version
and see Jarod's HowTo what to do (rename the one in the normal kernel
lib modules tree,
and do not use the alias trick).
In this way I installed a new "760" kernel and modules and could test
using Jarod's HowTo
all the kernel modules and see if they worked.
/var/log/messages showed a fine kernel module load of ivtv,
ivtv-fb (needed in my setup with the PVR350), lirc-i2c and alsa sound:
irw worked, aplay file.wav command worked, PVR350 recognized and
identified as PAL.

- I want to have X11 right on my TV screen (no monitor use (later)):
I had vm.min_free_kbytes=16384 set in /etc/sysctl.conf due to memory
problems
when loading ivtv. I still have this min_free but I'm not sure this
is still needed.

I used for PAL usage adjusted the following:
kernel startup (change /boot/grub/menu.1st) changed "rhgb" to "vga=792"
The effect was that my (just in case) Sony monitor and on board
graphics have to
use /dev/fb0 as frame buffer (Section "Device" in xorg.conf for on
board graphics has now
Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb0" (no bus id), and
the PCV350 go assigned /dev/fb1 now (see lspci command and/or
/var/log/messages
for your numbers. ).
Both values of /dev/fb[01] and the PVR350 PCI busnumber are in the
/etc/X11/xorg.conf
file with for me the PAL hor/vert mode arrangements.

I use two layouts in xorg.conf file: one for my TV and one for my old
Sony monitor (for
bjust in case there is trouble). So I can startup X11 with: "startx
-- -layout XYZ "
where XYZ is "sony" or "tv". sony for hacking and tv for operational
use.

I changed for mythtv playback mplayer in the mythtv setup to use x11
(in stead of xv).

- Map Vid mem failed problem
changed in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to use "ivtvdev" for Hauppauge
PVR350:
Driver "ivtvdev", Option "fbdev" "dev/fb1", BusID "PCI:01:0x8:0"
(modify for your ID numbers)
So I changed it from driver fbdev to ivtvdev this as fbdev is not
supported any longer
(you notice the problem with fbdev as: mmap fbmem: invalid argument
errors if you try).
Make sure you have ivtvdev.o in your /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers
directory!

- Upgrade from mythtv-016 to mythtv-0.17
For this (rpms were not there at that time)I had to compile
everything. In the docs dir
of the sources there are hints what to do. This is what I did to get
it running on FC3.

Down load the myth-0.17 and mythXYZ-0.17 tar files in a ~/sources/
dir. Unpack them.
Where XYZ is gallery, game, music, news, phone, video, weather, web.
Starting with myth-0.17 and following the XYZ modules (see notes for
music and web)
I did in every mythXXX-0.17 directory: if existed read first the
configure script to
see if I needed special options (mostly no opetions were needed) a
./configure,
qmake mythXXX.pro, make, make install.
That went smoothly. Once I got a C++ compilation error and fixed that
with an #include <math.h>
(sqrt, sin, cos, M_PI usage error).

For mythmusic-0.17 (see the README) file I had to install via apt-get
quite some dependences.
What the README file does not make clear is that you should also
install all the <DEPs>-devel
e.g. apt-get install faad2-devel packages.
I used for mythmusic .configure --enable-all (include opengl, fftw,
sdl, asc deps).
Make sure you install the fftw2 package (the fftw3 seems not to be
used in mythmusic).
I had to download the faad2-2.0.tar.gz package in order to get some
mp4ff header files
and installed them into the /usr/local/include directory.

For mythweb you need to copy things. See the README. You need to
create the
image_cache and php_sessions directories manually.
I remeber a library problem which was easily fixed by creating a
synbolic link from
the require .so file to the <something>.so.0 file.

- changed the /etc/init.d/mythbackend to use
/usr/local/bin/mythbackend now.
started the services lird, mythbackend and checked with lsmod if all
modules
were there and all sevices were started.
Reminder: myth-0.16 frontend does not work with myth-0.17 backend.

- This week I installed the myth-0.17 rpm's via apt-get install
myth-suite and
that went fine. My /usr/bin/mythXXX is the same as
/usr/local/bin/mythXXX

- The non-US channel info data base fiull problem: a stalled/hang of
mythtvsetup GUI
I'm living in a PAL country to to install tuner channels I run into a
stalled problem
(the X11 terminal window is invisible and unusable in order to enter
a few yes
values) for adapting, renewing the channels for my local tuner setup.
(Yes I do
not or cannoit use the US channel and program services).
In order to avoid this problem I always do the mythsetup part from a
remote
computer (xhost + on the laptop, ssh into the myth box, export
DISPLAY=laptop:0.0
from command line ssh mythtvsetup. When I use the program set up the
myth GUI
freezes, so I get to the X11 terminal window to interact with the
program channel
setup command and go back to the myth setup GUI.

- How to get sound to my TV or Receiver using PVR350
The cable to the PCI card has a 1/8 stereo plug which I attached to
the audio in
connector of my sound card (for me it is on board so to the base frame).
Via kmix I enable input (and surround processing) and that was is.
Use the Jarod's howto for all mythtv settings.
Currently I use the composite output and two audio connectors to a
scart connector box
towards the scart input of my receiver.
This all works: audio goes to the receiver speakers and composite
goes via the receiver to
the TV.

Mythtv land is not without trouble and without energy costs.
Sometimes my wife sounds strange to me in such a way
that I would have loved to be equipped with no technical background at
all...

Some problems still to be done for me:
- I want to have S-video output to my receiver via the scart cable set
from the PVR350
Which pins from say a 2X female scart connector do I need to solder
to the audio output
from my computer audio card? Or maybe digital audio into my receiver?
- The mythtv frontend GUI has a size which is beyond the PAL size of my TV.
How to adjust this only via TV hardware? Is there a way via the
xorg.conf?
Via mythtv GUI setup?
- My grey Hauppauge IR remote control talks ok to lircd deamon but
mythtv does not listens to lircd somehow.
Via the keybord up/down keys it operates fine.
Up/down for scrolling menus are OK for mythtv via the keyboard.
It worked a month ago so what has been changed which caused this?
- The Shuttle box is fine (low noise) but has only one PCI and one AGP
slot.
The PCI slot is used by the PVR350
Is there a (second) TV tuner card which can go in some way into the
AGP slot?

- and I'm sure when I start using more mythtv there will be more
problems on the horizon.
Nevertheless it has been worthwhile to get this mythtv box running for
me so far.
Someday I have to get the DVD writer also working ....
Yesterday I received an offer from my TV cable provider for a digital tv
setup box...

Thanks
teus
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simon at koala

Feb 15, 2005, 8:09 AM

Post #2 of 4 (1704 views)
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Re: Re: noticing the problems makes me nervous; how to myth success stories:-) [In reply to]

On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:46, Teus Hagen wrote:
> Some success and fix stories:
>
> On my box FB51 Shuttle (on board graphics, multi channel sound, etc)
> with TV mpeg
> en/decoder Hauppauge PVR350, I run FC3 (Fedora Core 3) fully
> updated/upgraded via apt-get.
> I used the very well written documentation of Jarod's Fedora
> Myth(TV)ology page:
> http://wilsonet.com/mythtv
> to install everything. And on any trouble I went back to this
> documentation step by step to see what and where
> things went wrong when something failed. That documentation was and
> still is very helpfully to me.
>

teus; i know you don't want o hear this but i've had the least amount of
hassle with gentoo compared to just about every other distribution that i've
used. that includes slackware, redhat, suse and debian.

i have to use a couple of "non-standard" ebuilds for ivtv and myth but apart
from that everything is pretty much standard. i also have a couple of shell
scripts. one to build myth, one to build lirc 9wth the right options)

> I know most of the issues raised here are also ivtv issues. I do not
> follow that ivtv list as my
> time is fully consumed to read this email list.
>
> An apt-get upgrade some weeks ago caused to broke my working setup: no
> sound (alsa to AC97),
> X11 on TV set up did not work (mem problems, frame buffer problems), and
> it failed to tune to channels
> with my IR remote after the upgrade.
>
> As many issues are related to the goal of the set up, here is what I
> want/use in my hw set up:
> TV should show mythtv frontend, settings to be changed with the
> Hauppauge remote IR control. Family uses a different language as I do
> (NL versus UK).
> So I'm living in a dutch PAL country. I use a TV CAT
> cable->computer->scart->receiver->TV setup.
>
> Last week I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.10-1.760_FC3 and got most things
> to work again.
> Here is what I did (and if I did not choose a smart choice please react
> on that as there is
> many to improve yet).

for gentoo it is:

emerge gentoo-dev-sources
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfg
genkernel all
emerge ivtv
LIRC_OPTS="--with-x --with-driver=hauppauge --with-major=61 --with-port=none
--with-irq=none" emerge lirc

>
> - Via a remote login: apt-get to install the new Linux FC3 kernel and
> did reboot to new kernel
>
> - How to prepare for kernel upgrade
> disable via "chkconfig --level 35 XYZ off" the startup of lircd,
> maythbackend
> as well installation of kernel driver modules as ivtv, lirc, ivtv-fb,
> sound
> TIP: I changed the /etc/init.d/{lircd,mythbackend} startup files to
> install via
> /sbin/modprobe the kernel modules ivtv (mythbackend) and lirc-i2c
> (lircd)
> (and if those failed to exit with an error).
> For lircd I included a "if [ ! -e /dev/lirc && -e /dev/lirc0 ]; then
> ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc ; fi "
> after the lirc-i2c kernel module installation command. This to avoid
> lircd startup problems
> (cannot find /dev/lirc), which one could easily check with the irw
> shell command.
>
> - How to upgrade the new kernel modules to the new version:
> Via remote login: KVER=`uname -r` (see Jarod's HowTo)
> apt-get install XYZ- kmdl-$KVER where XYZ is ivtv PVR, lirc IR, alsa
> sound
>
> - No sound in recordings problem, No PAL identified in driver problem
> Things seem to be changed last month probably to avoid the tveeprom
> and msp3400
> kernel modules "which one first" problem. Modules which have been
> changed in the ivtv setup.
> You will recognize this: alsa sound works with e.g. aplay
> some_file.wav but
> no sound on video recordings or watching TV:
> add the following to be added into your /etc/modprobe.conf file
> alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
> alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
> and check if you have those modules as XYZ.o in /lib/modules/$KVER tree.
> If you find msp3400.o twice and no msp3400-ivtv.o then you're having
> an old version
> and see Jarod's HowTo what to do (rename the one in the normal kernel
> lib modules tree,
> and do not use the alias trick).
> In this way I installed a new "760" kernel and modules and could test
> using Jarod's HowTo
> all the kernel modules and see if they worked.
> /var/log/messages showed a fine kernel module load of ivtv,
> ivtv-fb (needed in my setup with the PVR350), lirc-i2c and alsa sound:
> irw worked, aplay file.wav command worked, PVR350 recognized and
> identified as PAL.

emerge ivtv (using an ebuild for 0.2.0 rc3f
>
> - I want to have X11 right on my TV screen (no monitor use (later)):
> I had vm.min_free_kbytes=16384 set in /etc/sysctl.conf due to memory
> problems
> when loading ivtv. I still have this min_free but I'm not sure this
> is still needed.
>
> I used for PAL usage adjusted the following:
> kernel startup (change /boot/grub/menu.1st) changed "rhgb" to "vga=792"
> The effect was that my (just in case) Sony monitor and on board
> graphics have to
> use /dev/fb0 as frame buffer (Section "Device" in xorg.conf for on
> board graphics has now
> Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb0" (no bus id), and
> the PCV350 go assigned /dev/fb1 now (see lspci command and/or
> /var/log/messages
> for your numbers. ).
> Both values of /dev/fb[01] and the PVR350 PCI busnumber are in the
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> file with for me the PAL hor/vert mode arrangements.
>
> I use two layouts in xorg.conf file: one for my TV and one for my old
> Sony monitor (for
> bjust in case there is trouble). So I can startup X11 with: "startx
> -- -layout XYZ "
> where XYZ is "sony" or "tv". sony for hacking and tv for operational
> use.
>
> I changed for mythtv playback mplayer in the mythtv setup to use x11
> (in stead of xv).
>
> - Map Vid mem failed problem
> changed in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to use "ivtvdev" for Hauppauge
> PVR350:
> Driver "ivtvdev", Option "fbdev" "dev/fb1", BusID "PCI:01:0x8:0"
> (modify for your ID numbers)
> So I changed it from driver fbdev to ivtvdev this as fbdev is not
> supported any longer
> (you notice the problem with fbdev as: mmap fbmem: invalid argument
> errors if you try).
> Make sure you have ivtvdev.o in your /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers
> directory!
>
> - Upgrade from mythtv-016 to mythtv-0.17
> For this (rpms were not there at that time)I had to compile
> everything. In the docs dir
> of the sources there are hints what to do. This is what I did to get
> it running on FC3.
>
> Down load the myth-0.17 and mythXYZ-0.17 tar files in a ~/sources/
> dir. Unpack them.
> Where XYZ is gallery, game, music, news, phone, video, weather, web.
> Starting with myth-0.17 and following the XYZ modules (see notes for
> music and web)
> I did in every mythXXX-0.17 directory: if existed read first the
> configure script to
> see if I needed special options (mostly no opetions were needed) a
> ./configure,
> qmake mythXXX.pro, make, make install.
> That went smoothly. Once I got a C++ compilation error and fixed that
> with an #include <math.h>
> (sqrt, sin, cos, M_PI usage error).
>
> For mythmusic-0.17 (see the README) file I had to install via apt-get
> quite some dependences.

with the cvs ebuilds that i use it is just a case of

emerge mythtv-cvs mythbrowser-cvs mythdvd-cvs mythgallery-cvs mythgame-cvs
mythmusic-cvs mythnews-cvs mythphone-cvs mythvideo-cvs mythweather-cvs
mythweb-cvs nuvexport-cvs

this gets all the dependencies and installs them

> What the README file does not make clear is that you should also
> install all the <DEPs>-devel
> e.g. apt-get install faad2-devel packages.
> I used for mythmusic .configure --enable-all (include opengl, fftw,
> sdl, asc deps).
> Make sure you install the fftw2 package (the fftw3 seems not to be
> used in mythmusic).
> I had to download the faad2-2.0.tar.gz package in order to get some
> mp4ff header files
> and installed them into the /usr/local/include directory.
>
> For mythweb you need to copy things. See the README. You need to
> create the
> image_cache and php_sessions directories manually.
> I remeber a library problem which was easily fixed by creating a
> synbolic link from
> the require .so file to the <something>.so.0 file.
>
> - changed the /etc/init.d/mythbackend to use
> /usr/local/bin/mythbackend now.
> started the services lird, mythbackend and checked with lsmod if all
> modules
> were there and all sevices were started.
> Reminder: myth-0.16 frontend does not work with myth-0.17 backend.
>
> - This week I installed the myth-0.17 rpm's via apt-get install
> myth-suite and
> that went fine. My /usr/bin/mythXXX is the same as
> /usr/local/bin/mythXXX
>
> - The non-US channel info data base fiull problem: a stalled/hang of
> mythtvsetup GUI
> I'm living in a PAL country to to install tuner channels I run into a
> stalled problem
> (the X11 terminal window is invisible and unusable in order to enter
> a few yes
> values) for adapting, renewing the channels for my local tuner setup.
> (Yes I do
> not or cannoit use the US channel and program services).
> In order to avoid this problem I always do the mythsetup part from a
> remote
> computer (xhost + on the laptop, ssh into the myth box, export
> DISPLAY=laptop:0.0
> from command line ssh mythtvsetup. When I use the program set up the
> myth GUI
> freezes, so I get to the X11 terminal window to interact with the
> program channel
> setup command and go back to the myth setup GUI.
>
> - How to get sound to my TV or Receiver using PVR350
> The cable to the PCI card has a 1/8 stereo plug which I attached to
> the audio in
> connector of my sound card (for me it is on board so to the base frame).
> Via kmix I enable input (and surround processing) and that was is.
> Use the Jarod's howto for all mythtv settings.
> Currently I use the composite output and two audio connectors to a
> scart connector box
> towards the scart input of my receiver.
> This all works: audio goes to the receiver speakers and composite
> goes via the receiver to
> the TV.

i use the spdif sound out from the motherboard

>
> Mythtv land is not without trouble and without energy costs.
> Sometimes my wife sounds strange to me in such a way
> that I would have loved to be equipped with no technical background at
> all...
>
> Some problems still to be done for me:
> - I want to have S-video output to my receiver via the scart cable set
> from the PVR350
> Which pins from say a 2X female scart connector do I need to solder
> to the audio output
> from my computer audio card? Or maybe digital audio into my receiver?
> - The mythtv frontend GUI has a size which is beyond the PAL size of my TV.
> How to adjust this only via TV hardware? Is there a way via the
> xorg.conf?
> Via mythtv GUI setup?

try cvs myth and there are options to set the gui size

> - My grey Hauppauge IR remote control talks ok to lircd deamon but
> mythtv does not listens to lircd somehow.

check if you have this configured in settings.pro

> Via the keybord up/down keys it operates fine.
> Up/down for scrolling menus are OK for mythtv via the keyboard.
> It worked a month ago so what has been changed which caused this?
> - The Shuttle box is fine (low noise) but has only one PCI and one AGP
> slot.
> The PCI slot is used by the PVR350
> Is there a (second) TV tuner card which can go in some way into the
> AGP slot?

not that i am aware of - but there are USB tuners (analogue and DVB-{S,T})

>
> - and I'm sure when I start using more mythtv there will be more
> problems on the horizon.
> Nevertheless it has been worthwhile to get this mythtv box running for
> me so far.
> Someday I have to get the DVD writer also working ....
> Yesterday I received an offer from my TV cable provider for a digital tv
> setup box...

i control my sky digibox using myth

>
> Thanks
> teus

regards
--
simon
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abostock at gmail

Feb 17, 2005, 12:20 AM

Post #3 of 4 (1678 views)
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Re: Re: noticing the problems makes me nervous; how to myth success stories:-) [In reply to]

Just a couple of quick gentoo points:

You can put:

LIRC_OPTS="--with-x --with-driver=hauppauge --with-major=61
--with-port=none --with-irq=none"

In to /etc/make.conf and then just run:

emerge lirc

Instead of having to type all that each time.


> cd /usr/src/linux
> make menuconfg
> genkernel all

That can also be simplfied to just:

genkernel all --menuconfig

Hope that helps.
Ash.


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:09:48 +0000, Simon Kenyon <simon[at]koala.ie> wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 February 2005 12:46, Teus Hagen wrote:
> > Some success and fix stories:
> >
> > On my box FB51 Shuttle (on board graphics, multi channel sound, etc)
> > with TV mpeg
> > en/decoder Hauppauge PVR350, I run FC3 (Fedora Core 3) fully
> > updated/upgraded via apt-get.
> > I used the very well written documentation of Jarod's Fedora
> > Myth(TV)ology page:
> > http://wilsonet.com/mythtv
> > to install everything. And on any trouble I went back to this
> > documentation step by step to see what and where
> > things went wrong when something failed. That documentation was and
> > still is very helpfully to me.
> >
>
> teus; i know you don't want o hear this but i've had the least amount of
> hassle with gentoo compared to just about every other distribution that i've
> used. that includes slackware, redhat, suse and debian.
>
> i have to use a couple of "non-standard" ebuilds for ivtv and myth but apart
> from that everything is pretty much standard. i also have a couple of shell
> scripts. one to build myth, one to build lirc 9wth the right options)
>
> > I know most of the issues raised here are also ivtv issues. I do not
> > follow that ivtv list as my
> > time is fully consumed to read this email list.
> >
> > An apt-get upgrade some weeks ago caused to broke my working setup: no
> > sound (alsa to AC97),
> > X11 on TV set up did not work (mem problems, frame buffer problems), and
> > it failed to tune to channels
> > with my IR remote after the upgrade.
> >
> > As many issues are related to the goal of the set up, here is what I
> > want/use in my hw set up:
> > TV should show mythtv frontend, settings to be changed with the
> > Hauppauge remote IR control. Family uses a different language as I do
> > (NL versus UK).
> > So I'm living in a dutch PAL country. I use a TV CAT
> > cable->computer->scart->receiver->TV setup.
> >
> > Last week I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.10-1.760_FC3 and got most things
> > to work again.
> > Here is what I did (and if I did not choose a smart choice please react
> > on that as there is
> > many to improve yet).
>
> for gentoo it is:
>
> emerge gentoo-dev-sources
> cd /usr/src/linux
> make menuconfg
> genkernel all
> emerge ivtv
> LIRC_OPTS="--with-x --with-driver=hauppauge --with-major=61 --with-port=none
> --with-irq=none" emerge lirc
>
> >
> > - Via a remote login: apt-get to install the new Linux FC3 kernel and
> > did reboot to new kernel
> >
> > - How to prepare for kernel upgrade
> > disable via "chkconfig --level 35 XYZ off" the startup of lircd,
> > maythbackend
> > as well installation of kernel driver modules as ivtv, lirc, ivtv-fb,
> > sound
> > TIP: I changed the /etc/init.d/{lircd,mythbackend} startup files to
> > install via
> > /sbin/modprobe the kernel modules ivtv (mythbackend) and lirc-i2c
> > (lircd)
> > (and if those failed to exit with an error).
> > For lircd I included a "if [ ! -e /dev/lirc && -e /dev/lirc0 ]; then
> > ln -s /dev/lirc0 /dev/lirc ; fi "
> > after the lirc-i2c kernel module installation command. This to avoid
> > lircd startup problems
> > (cannot find /dev/lirc), which one could easily check with the irw
> > shell command.
> >
> > - How to upgrade the new kernel modules to the new version:
> > Via remote login: KVER=`uname -r` (see Jarod's HowTo)
> > apt-get install XYZ- kmdl-$KVER where XYZ is ivtv PVR, lirc IR, alsa
> > sound
> >
> > - No sound in recordings problem, No PAL identified in driver problem
> > Things seem to be changed last month probably to avoid the tveeprom
> > and msp3400
> > kernel modules "which one first" problem. Modules which have been
> > changed in the ivtv setup.
> > You will recognize this: alsa sound works with e.g. aplay
> > some_file.wav but
> > no sound on video recordings or watching TV:
> > add the following to be added into your /etc/modprobe.conf file
> > alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
> > alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
> > and check if you have those modules as XYZ.o in /lib/modules/$KVER tree.
> > If you find msp3400.o twice and no msp3400-ivtv.o then you're having
> > an old version
> > and see Jarod's HowTo what to do (rename the one in the normal kernel
> > lib modules tree,
> > and do not use the alias trick).
> > In this way I installed a new "760" kernel and modules and could test
> > using Jarod's HowTo
> > all the kernel modules and see if they worked.
> > /var/log/messages showed a fine kernel module load of ivtv,
> > ivtv-fb (needed in my setup with the PVR350), lirc-i2c and alsa sound:
> > irw worked, aplay file.wav command worked, PVR350 recognized and
> > identified as PAL.
>
> emerge ivtv (using an ebuild for 0.2.0 rc3f
> >
> > - I want to have X11 right on my TV screen (no monitor use (later)):
> > I had vm.min_free_kbytes=16384 set in /etc/sysctl.conf due to memory
> > problems
> > when loading ivtv. I still have this min_free but I'm not sure this
> > is still needed.
> >
> > I used for PAL usage adjusted the following:
> > kernel startup (change /boot/grub/menu.1st) changed "rhgb" to "vga=792"
> > The effect was that my (just in case) Sony monitor and on board
> > graphics have to
> > use /dev/fb0 as frame buffer (Section "Device" in xorg.conf for on
> > board graphics has now
> > Option "fbdev" "/dev/fb0" (no bus id), and
> > the PCV350 go assigned /dev/fb1 now (see lspci command and/or
> > /var/log/messages
> > for your numbers. ).
> > Both values of /dev/fb[01] and the PVR350 PCI busnumber are in the
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > file with for me the PAL hor/vert mode arrangements.
> >
> > I use two layouts in xorg.conf file: one for my TV and one for my old
> > Sony monitor (for
> > bjust in case there is trouble). So I can startup X11 with: "startx
> > -- -layout XYZ "
> > where XYZ is "sony" or "tv". sony for hacking and tv for operational
> > use.
> >
> > I changed for mythtv playback mplayer in the mythtv setup to use x11
> > (in stead of xv).
> >
> > - Map Vid mem failed problem
> > changed in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to use "ivtvdev" for Hauppauge
> > PVR350:
> > Driver "ivtvdev", Option "fbdev" "dev/fb1", BusID "PCI:01:0x8:0"
> > (modify for your ID numbers)
> > So I changed it from driver fbdev to ivtvdev this as fbdev is not
> > supported any longer
> > (you notice the problem with fbdev as: mmap fbmem: invalid argument
> > errors if you try).
> > Make sure you have ivtvdev.o in your /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers
> > directory!
> >
> > - Upgrade from mythtv-016 to mythtv-0.17
> > For this (rpms were not there at that time)I had to compile
> > everything. In the docs dir
> > of the sources there are hints what to do. This is what I did to get
> > it running on FC3.
> >
> > Down load the myth-0.17 and mythXYZ-0.17 tar files in a ~/sources/
> > dir. Unpack them.
> > Where XYZ is gallery, game, music, news, phone, video, weather, web.
> > Starting with myth-0.17 and following the XYZ modules (see notes for
> > music and web)
> > I did in every mythXXX-0.17 directory: if existed read first the
> > configure script to
> > see if I needed special options (mostly no opetions were needed) a
> > ./configure,
> > qmake mythXXX.pro, make, make install.
> > That went smoothly. Once I got a C++ compilation error and fixed that
> > with an #include <math.h>
> > (sqrt, sin, cos, M_PI usage error).
> >
> > For mythmusic-0.17 (see the README) file I had to install via apt-get
> > quite some dependences.
>
> with the cvs ebuilds that i use it is just a case of
>
> emerge mythtv-cvs mythbrowser-cvs mythdvd-cvs mythgallery-cvs mythgame-cvs
> mythmusic-cvs mythnews-cvs mythphone-cvs mythvideo-cvs mythweather-cvs
> mythweb-cvs nuvexport-cvs
>
> this gets all the dependencies and installs them
>
> > What the README file does not make clear is that you should also
> > install all the <DEPs>-devel
> > e.g. apt-get install faad2-devel packages.
> > I used for mythmusic .configure --enable-all (include opengl, fftw,
> > sdl, asc deps).
> > Make sure you install the fftw2 package (the fftw3 seems not to be
> > used in mythmusic).
> > I had to download the faad2-2.0.tar.gz package in order to get some
> > mp4ff header files
> > and installed them into the /usr/local/include directory.
> >
> > For mythweb you need to copy things. See the README. You need to
> > create the
> > image_cache and php_sessions directories manually.
> > I remeber a library problem which was easily fixed by creating a
> > synbolic link from
> > the require .so file to the <something>.so.0 file.
> >
> > - changed the /etc/init.d/mythbackend to use
> > /usr/local/bin/mythbackend now.
> > started the services lird, mythbackend and checked with lsmod if all
> > modules
> > were there and all sevices were started.
> > Reminder: myth-0.16 frontend does not work with myth-0.17 backend.
> >
> > - This week I installed the myth-0.17 rpm's via apt-get install
> > myth-suite and
> > that went fine. My /usr/bin/mythXXX is the same as
> > /usr/local/bin/mythXXX
> >
> > - The non-US channel info data base fiull problem: a stalled/hang of
> > mythtvsetup GUI
> > I'm living in a PAL country to to install tuner channels I run into a
> > stalled problem
> > (the X11 terminal window is invisible and unusable in order to enter
> > a few yes
> > values) for adapting, renewing the channels for my local tuner setup.
> > (Yes I do
> > not or cannoit use the US channel and program services).
> > In order to avoid this problem I always do the mythsetup part from a
> > remote
> > computer (xhost + on the laptop, ssh into the myth box, export
> > DISPLAY=laptop:0.0
> > from command line ssh mythtvsetup. When I use the program set up the
> > myth GUI
> > freezes, so I get to the X11 terminal window to interact with the
> > program channel
> > setup command and go back to the myth setup GUI.
> >
> > - How to get sound to my TV or Receiver using PVR350
> > The cable to the PCI card has a 1/8 stereo plug which I attached to
> > the audio in
> > connector of my sound card (for me it is on board so to the base frame).
> > Via kmix I enable input (and surround processing) and that was is.
> > Use the Jarod's howto for all mythtv settings.
> > Currently I use the composite output and two audio connectors to a
> > scart connector box
> > towards the scart input of my receiver.
> > This all works: audio goes to the receiver speakers and composite
> > goes via the receiver to
> > the TV.
>
> i use the spdif sound out from the motherboard
>
> >
> > Mythtv land is not without trouble and without energy costs.
> > Sometimes my wife sounds strange to me in such a way
> > that I would have loved to be equipped with no technical background at
> > all...
> >
> > Some problems still to be done for me:
> > - I want to have S-video output to my receiver via the scart cable set
> > from the PVR350
> > Which pins from say a 2X female scart connector do I need to solder
> > to the audio output
> > from my computer audio card? Or maybe digital audio into my receiver?
> > - The mythtv frontend GUI has a size which is beyond the PAL size of my TV.
> > How to adjust this only via TV hardware? Is there a way via the
> > xorg.conf?
> > Via mythtv GUI setup?
>
> try cvs myth and there are options to set the gui size
>
> > - My grey Hauppauge IR remote control talks ok to lircd deamon but
> > mythtv does not listens to lircd somehow.
>
> check if you have this configured in settings.pro
>
> > Via the keybord up/down keys it operates fine.
> > Up/down for scrolling menus are OK for mythtv via the keyboard.
> > It worked a month ago so what has been changed which caused this?
> > - The Shuttle box is fine (low noise) but has only one PCI and one AGP
> > slot.
> > The PCI slot is used by the PVR350
> > Is there a (second) TV tuner card which can go in some way into the
> > AGP slot?
>
> not that i am aware of - but there are USB tuners (analogue and DVB-{S,T})
>
> >
> > - and I'm sure when I start using more mythtv there will be more
> > problems on the horizon.
> > Nevertheless it has been worthwhile to get this mythtv box running for
> > me so far.
> > Someday I have to get the DVD writer also working ....
> > Yesterday I received an offer from my TV cable provider for a digital tv
> > setup box...
>
> i control my sky digibox using myth
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > teus
>
> regards
> --
> simon
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simon at koala

Feb 17, 2005, 1:12 AM

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Re: Re: noticing the problems makes me nervous; how to myth success stories:-) [In reply to]

On Thursday 17 February 2005 08:20, Ashley Bostock wrote:
> Just a couple of quick gentoo points:
>
> You can put:
>
> LIRC_OPTS="--with-x --with-driver=hauppauge --with-major=61
> --with-port=none --with-irq=none"
>
> In to /etc/make.conf and then just run:
>
> emerge lirc
>
> Instead of having to type all that each time.

aha! did not realise that
thanks a million
emerge world always fails when a new lirc is released
now one less problem to deal with

>
> > cd /usr/src/linux
> > make menuconfg
> > genkernel all
>
> That can also be simplfied to just:
>
> genkernel all --menuconfig

thanks again
i actually do
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
cp ,config /etc/my-very-own-config.conf
genkernel --kernel-config=/etc/my-very-own-config.conf all

i'm sure there is probably a better way
i like to have a copy of the config which i know does not get overwritten
so i can find out what i did wrong :-) when i build a kernel

>
> Hope that helps.
> Ash.

oh it did!
--
simon
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