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james.poyser at gmail

Jan 10, 2005, 5:37 AM

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DVB Radio

Hi All,

Just wondering what the latest state is with regards to DVB radio
channels. I understand that they hang unless you set a video pid...
but even then it can be fussy.

Is any work been done around this area? I'd really love to be able to
schedule recordings of radio channels and record them straight to
MP3... has anyone done anything similar?


James


george at ripnet

Jan 10, 2005, 6:35 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

I have a script that takes a dvb scan, and assigns a random video PID from
the same channel, then another script that exports to mp3.

Works very well.

g

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Poyser" <james.poyser[at]gmail.com>
To: <mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 1:37 PM
Subject: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio


> Hi All,
>
> Just wondering what the latest state is with regards to DVB radio
> channels. I understand that they hang unless you set a video pid...
> but even then it can be fussy.
>
> Is any work been done around this area? I'd really love to be able to
> schedule recordings of radio channels and record them straight to
> MP3... has anyone done anything similar?
>
>
> James
>


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james.poyser at gmail

Jan 10, 2005, 7:46 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
or can you record straight to MP3?

Would you mind posting or mailing your script?

Thanks - James.


rob at fearsedge

Jan 11, 2005, 10:11 AM

Post #4 of 25 (1428 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On Monday 10 January 2005 15:46, James Poyser wrote:
> Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
> or can you record straight to MP3?
>
> Would you mind posting or mailing your script?
>
> Thanks - James.
>

I would like to see this too.

I found an old thread discussing DVB radio in Myth but it seems it never went anywhere. Would be nice to listen to some BBC comedy shows on the bus to work ;)

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lists at backslash

Jan 11, 2005, 10:41 AM

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RE: DVB Radio [In reply to]

I could be wrong, but I thought DVB Radio channels in the UK were broadcast
in MP2 format.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org]On Behalf Of James Poyser
> Sent: 10 January 2005 15:47
> To: George Styles
> Cc: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio
>
>
> Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
> or can you record straight to MP3?
>
> Would you mind posting or mailing your script?
>
> Thanks - James.
>


george at ripnet

Jan 11, 2005, 11:42 AM

Post #6 of 25 (1431 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

Hi,

Yes the ones i checked do broadcast in mp2.

The way I work is I have a script which takes the recorded shows, and
re-encodes them from mp2 to mp3. I then use rsync to sync them to my mp3
player for mobile listening... all very easy, all I have to do is use
mythweb to flag the shows I want to record, and then plug my mp3 player in
and run the sync script...


Quite a few people have asked me for this script (and the one that does the
export), so I have chucked together a quick n dirty page on my Wiki with the
scripts on it at

http://wiki.ripnet.co.uk/


cheers

g


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Davidson" <lists[at]backslash.co.uk>
To: "James Poyser" <james.poyser[at]gmail.com>; "Discussion about mythtv"
<mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio


>I could be wrong, but I thought DVB Radio channels in the UK were broadcast
> in MP2 format.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org
>> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces[at]mythtv.org]On Behalf Of James Poyser
>> Sent: 10 January 2005 15:47
>> To: George Styles
>> Cc: Discussion about mythtv
>> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio
>>
>>
>> Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
>> or can you record straight to MP3?
>>
>> Would you mind posting or mailing your script?
>>
>> Thanks - James.
>>
>
>
>


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register at combinedeffort

Jan 11, 2005, 12:14 PM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

>From a UK perspective, you can use DVB to record radio as if it was a TV
show out of the (mythtv) box. You just need to put a fake PID for the
video in the dvb_pids table. Well, not exactly fake - one from another
*TV* channel on the same MUX. You then get the audio from the radio
stream and the video from the TV stream - stops myth complaining...

I then use mplayer to dump the audio, like this:

mplayer -vo null -dumpaudio -dumpfile my_audio_file.mp2 \
11009_20041216185800_20041217010000.nuv

You can then use LAME to convert to MP3. Used to work a treat for John
Peel :(

HTH

Rich

> Message: 28
> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:11:03 +0000
> From: Robin Elvin <rob[at]fearsedge.com>
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio
> To: mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org
> Message-ID: <200501111811.04090.rob[at]fearsedge.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Monday 10 January 2005 15:46, James Poyser wrote:
> > Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
> > or can you record straight to MP3?
> >
> > Would you mind posting or mailing your script?
> >
> > Thanks - James.
> >
>
> I would like to see this too.
>
> I found an old thread discussing DVB radio in Myth but it seems it never went anywhere. Would be nice to listen to some BBC comedy shows on the bus to work ;)
>
> --
> Rob


rob at fearsedge

Jan 12, 2005, 4:29 AM

Post #8 of 25 (1427 views)
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Re: Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

Thanks, I'll try that.

It would still be nice for native DVB Radio handling in Myth; it's a little OTT
to have to record all that video. I wonder if "Radio mode" is in the pipeline?
(You know, just show the logo of the station and the program name like Sky et
al.)

--
Rob


Quoting Richard and Monica Bland <register[at]combinedeffort.com>:

> >From a UK perspective, you can use DVB to record radio as if it was a TV
> show out of the (mythtv) box. You just need to put a fake PID for the
> video in the dvb_pids table. Well, not exactly fake - one from another
> *TV* channel on the same MUX. You then get the audio from the radio
> stream and the video from the TV stream - stops myth complaining...
>
> I then use mplayer to dump the audio, like this:
>
> mplayer -vo null -dumpaudio -dumpfile my_audio_file.mp2 \
> 11009_20041216185800_20041217010000.nuv
>
> You can then use LAME to convert to MP3. Used to work a treat for John
> Peel :(
>
> HTH
>
> Rich
>
> > Message: 28
> > Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:11:03 +0000
> > From: Robin Elvin <rob[at]fearsedge.com>
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio
> > To: mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org
> > Message-ID: <200501111811.04090.rob[at]fearsedge.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > On Monday 10 January 2005 15:46, James Poyser wrote:
> > > Do you record the video and audio stream and convert to MP3 afterwards
> > > or can you record straight to MP3?
> > >
> > > Would you mind posting or mailing your script?
> > >
> > > Thanks - James.
> > >
> >
> > I would like to see this too.
> >
> > I found an old thread discussing DVB radio in Myth but it seems it never
> went anywhere. Would be nice to listen to some BBC comedy shows on the bus to
> work ;)
> >
> > --
> > Rob
>
>
>
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nick at craig-wood

Jan 12, 2005, 4:40 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:42:50PM -0000, George Styles wrote:
> Yes the ones i checked do broadcast in mp2.

Radio 4 broadcasts in 192kbit/s mp2 format

> The way I work is I have a script which takes the recorded shows, and
> re-encodes them from mp2 to mp3.

Do you have to re-encode them? In my experience if you just rename
the file .mp3 then mp3 players will play the file anyway as mp2 and
mp3 are so similar. I figure 192 k MP2 is pretty good quality and not
too large so I'd rather keep the original format.

> Quite a few people have asked me for this script (and the one that does the
> export), so I have chucked together a quick n dirty page on my Wiki with
> the scripts on it at
>
> http://wiki.ripnet.co.uk/

I have a similar script which looks through all the recorded programs
once an hour then rips the mp2 audio from the recorded programs into
another directory.

It would be very nice if mythtv could record just the audio as its
slightly annoying to record 574MB of useless video (bid up TV at 2
Mbit/s ;-) + audio when all that is really required is the 53MB of MP2
data within it.

I'm working on a program which will stream the audio of recorded
programs and 'LiveTV' to an http mp3 stream. I plan to use this for
listening to stuff on my squeezebox. I'll make an annoucement when
its done, but its working proof of concept now (it plays live TV and
recordings via mpg123 now rather than streaming them).

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george at ripnet

Jan 12, 2005, 5:57 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

> Do you have to re-encode them? In my experience if you just rename
> the file .mp3 then mp3 players will play the file anyway as mp2 and
> mp3 are so similar. I figure 192 k MP2 is pretty good quality and not
> too large so I'd rather keep the original format.

That depends - my old mp3 player (An Archos Recorder 20) played mp2's fine,
but my current one (iRiver IHP140) doesnt play them. I used to just demux
the stream and use the mp2.

Of course when Rockbox is finished for the iRiver it will play mp2 as well
:)

g

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richie at helkit

Jan 12, 2005, 6:24 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

George Styles wrote:
>> Do you have to re-encode them? In my experience if you just rename
>> the file .mp3 then mp3 players will play the file anyway as mp2 and
>> mp3 are so similar. I figure 192 k MP2 is pretty good quality and not
>> too large so I'd rather keep the original format.
>
>
> That depends - my old mp3 player (An Archos Recorder 20) played mp2's
> fine, but my current one (iRiver IHP140) doesnt play them. I used to
> just demux the stream and use the mp2.
>
> Of course when Rockbox is finished for the iRiver it will play mp2 as
> well :)
>
> g
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You could always use nuvexport to convert the files to mp3. I ripped
the new HHGTTG like that.

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george at ripnet

Jan 12, 2005, 7:28 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

> You could always use nuvexport to convert the files to mp3. I ripped
> the new HHGTTG like that.

True, i think you have to use nuvexport if the video is recorded in nuppel
format, but I have a DVB card, so I can skip that step and tell ffmpeg to
directly encode the .nuv...

I didnt have much luck with nuvexport overall on dvb files :)

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mythtv at salfter

Jan 12, 2005, 10:54 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:40:23PM +0000, Nick Craig-Wood wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:42:50PM -0000, George Styles wrote:
> > Yes the ones i checked do broadcast in mp2.
>
> Radio 4 broadcasts in 192kbit/s mp2 format
>
> > The way I work is I have a script which takes the recorded shows, and
> > re-encodes them from mp2 to mp3.
>
> Do you have to re-encode them? In my experience if you just rename
> the file .mp3 then mp3 players will play the file anyway as mp2 and
> mp3 are so similar.

More specifically, MP3 is a superset of MP2. You should be able to feed MP2
data to an MP3 decoder. If an MP3 decoder chokes on MP2 data, it's broken.

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rob at fearsedge

Jan 12, 2005, 2:41 PM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 15:28, George Styles wrote:
>
> > You could always use nuvexport to convert the files to mp3. I ripped
> > the new HHGTTG like that.
>
> True, i think you have to use nuvexport if the video is recorded in nuppel
> format, but I have a DVB card, so I can skip that step and tell ffmpeg to
> directly encode the .nuv...
>
> I didnt have much luck with nuvexport overall on dvb files :)
>
> g
>
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Neither did I until a hack was suggested. Look for 'nuvexport corrupts video'
in this month's list for the solution that helped me.

Back to radio, I tried creating a new channel and assign the audio pid of a
radio station to it but it all goes very stuttery, particularly the video to
the point where the OSD crashes the frontend.

Example:

I used price-drop.tv as the base video channel and used the audio PID of Radio
4 which is on the same mux. I get the video of price-drop.tv jumping all over
and as expected the audio for Radio 4 but it keeps dropping out. If I look at
the console output for mythfrontend it keeps complaining about lost audio.

I thought it might be a signal problem but all the TV channels on that mux are
fine.

Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks

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ciaranj at gmail

Jan 12, 2005, 10:30 PM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:35 +0000, Robin Elvin <rob[at]fearsedge.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 January 2005 15:28, George Styles wrote:
> >
> > > You could always use nuvexport to convert the files to mp3. I ripped
> > > the new HHGTTG like that.
> >
> > True, i think you have to use nuvexport if the video is recorded in nuppel
> > format, but I have a DVB card, so I can skip that step and tell ffmpeg to
> > directly encode the .nuv...
> >
> > I didnt have much luck with nuvexport overall on dvb files :)
> >
> > g
> >
> >
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>
> Neither did I until a hack was suggested. Look for 'nuvexport corrupts video'
> in this month's list for the solution that helped me.
>
> Back to radio, I tried creating a new channel and assign the audio pid of a
> radio station to it but it all goes very stuttery, particularly the video to
> the point where the OSD crashes the frontend.
>
> Example:
>
> I used price-drop.tv as the base video channel and used the audio PID of Radio
> 4 which is on the same mux. I get the video of price-drop.tv jumping all over
> and as expected the audio for Radio 4 but it keeps dropping out. If I look at
> the console output for mythfrontend it keeps complaining about lost audio.
>
> I thought it might be a signal problem but all the TV channels on that mux are
> fine.
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Rob
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I'm only guessing but you asked for ideas, do you have the 'Keep Audio
in synch with video' option turned on in your configuration, could
this do it?

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register at combinedeffort

Jan 13, 2005, 2:05 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

Hmm, this is stirring memories!

I use the UK Sutton Coldfield transmitter. I've set my Radio 1 channel to
use the 'five' channels video stream. I think I chose this because the DVB
settings where the 'closest' match - i.e. I wasn't recording from two
sources with different QAM/GUARD_INTERVAL/etc..

My Radio 1 / 'five' data (from the dvb-apps 'scan' utility) looks like this:

BBC Radio 1:
682166670:
INVERSION_AUTO:
BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:
FEC_2_3:
FEC_1_2:
QAM_64:
TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:
GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:
HIERARCHY_NONE:
0:
6210:
14336

five:
682166670:
INVERSION_AUTO:
BANDWIDTH_8_MHZ:
FEC_2_3:
FEC_1_2:
QAM_64:
TRANSMISSION_MODE_2K:
GUARD_INTERVAL_1_32:
HIERARCHY_NONE:
6017:
6018:
12866

i.e. a pretty close match. Try using a PID from a 'close' match to Radio 4.

Sorry for the bitty response - it was configured quite a while ago!

Rich




Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:30:51 +0000
From: Ciaran <ciaranj[at]gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio
To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users[at]mythtv.org>
Message-ID: <654f1dd705011222307789ebd0[at]mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:41:35 +0000, Robin Elvin <rob[at]fearsedge.com> wrote:
> Back to radio, I tried creating a new channel and assign the audio pid of
a
> radio station to it but it all goes very stuttery, particularly the video
to
> the point where the OSD crashes the frontend.
>
> Example:
>
> I used price-drop.tv as the base video channel and used the audio PID of
Radio
> 4 which is on the same mux. I get the video of price-drop.tv jumping all
over
> and as expected the audio for Radio 4 but it keeps dropping out. If I look
at
> the console output for mythfrontend it keeps complaining about lost audio.
>
> I thought it might be a signal problem but all the TV channels on that mux
are
> fine.
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Rob
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I'm only guessing but you asked for ideas, do you have the 'Keep Audio
in synch with video' option turned on in your configuration, could
this do it?

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avocade at gmail

Jun 28, 2005, 2:36 PM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 26 jun 2005, at 20.53, mythtv-users-request[at]mythtv.org wrote:

> Yes, it will be wunderful if someone could create a mythRadio
> module that
> would work like liveTV
>
> Peter Meyland

Indeed. Living in Sweden we'll probably get DAB, so if that's
possible to recieve with my AverTV 771 DVB-T card I'd like to propose
a decoder for it as well.



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knowledgejunkie at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 1:35 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> -Ubuntu 6.10
> -Mythtv .20 (default ubuntu package)
> -Australia
> -Leadtek DVB 1000T card
>
> In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB radio
> stations. However, when I try to tune to them on mythtv one of two
> things happens:
> 1. It tells me it can't tune the channel, to try another channel
> 2. Mythbackend crashes (this is on one of the stations I don't listen
> to, so I don't care about it, but thought I would mention it)
>
> So it seems it does "support" it (older versions wouldn't add them to
> the scan table) but how do I actually listen to the radio?

One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to ensure
the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
profile to 'All' cured this.

Nick
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bill at bbqninja

Jan 17, 2007, 2:22 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> > stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB radio
> > stations.
> One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to ensure
> the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
> card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
> present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
> causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
> profile to 'All' cured this.


Do you happen to know where in the db to change this? (No current
physical/VNC access to my server... otherwise I can give that a try
this weekend).
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knowledgejunkie at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 2:54 AM

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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > > In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> > > stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB radio
> > > stations.
> > One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to ensure
> > the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
> > card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
> > present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
> > causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
> > profile to 'All' cured this.
>
>
> Do you happen to know where in the db to change this? (No current
> physical/VNC access to my server... otherwise I can give that a try
> this weekend).

SELECT * FROM `codecparams` WHERE `name`= 'recordingtype';

gives me the (4 DVB) profiles I have manually configured in
mythtv-setup to record all streams. The codecparams.value is set to
'all' for the DVB profiles.

Nick

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bill at bbqninja

Jan 17, 2007, 3:08 AM

Post #21 of 25 (790 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > > > In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> > > > stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB radio
> > > > stations.
> > > One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to ensure
> > > the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
> > > card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
> > > present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
> > > causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
> > > profile to 'All' cured this.
> >
> >
> > Do you happen to know where in the db to change this? (No current
> > physical/VNC access to my server... otherwise I can give that a try
> > this weekend).
>
> SELECT * FROM `codecparams` WHERE `name`= 'recordingtype';
>
> gives me the (4 DVB) profiles I have manually configured in
> mythtv-setup to record all streams. The codecparams.value is set to
> 'all' for the DVB profiles.


No rows in that table. I'll give it a shot this weekend and report back.
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gary.dawes at gmail

Jan 17, 2007, 4:08 AM

Post #22 of 25 (791 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

I'm running 0.20 with 2 dvb-t tuners (freecom twinhan wideview clones) and
it picks up dvb radio over the UK's freeview system with no problems
whatsoever.

I use nuvexport to reencode them to mp3 only.

Only issue I had was getting the data, but I just hadn't ticked the right
boxes for over the air epg data.

gary

On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > > On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > > > > In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> > > > > stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB
> radio
> > > > > stations.
> > > > One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to
> ensure
> > > > the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
> > > > card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
> > > > present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
> > > > causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
> > > > profile to 'All' cured this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Do you happen to know where in the db to change this? (No current
> > > physical/VNC access to my server... otherwise I can give that a try
> > > this weekend).
> >
> > SELECT * FROM `codecparams` WHERE `name`= 'recordingtype';
> >
> > gives me the (4 DVB) profiles I have manually configured in
> > mythtv-setup to record all streams. The codecparams.value is set to
> > 'all' for the DVB profiles.
>
>
> No rows in that table. I'll give it a shot this weekend and report back.
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bill at bbqninja

Jan 20, 2007, 8:09 PM

Post #23 of 25 (745 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 1/17/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> On 17/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > -Ubuntu 6.10
> > -Mythtv .20 (default ubuntu package)
> > -Australia
> > -Leadtek DVB 1000T card
> >
> > In the release notes for .20 it notes that it supports DVB radio
> > stations. I've tested using tzap, and can tune to the local DVB radio
> > stations. However, when I try to tune to them on mythtv one of two
> > things happens:
> > 1. It tells me it can't tune the channel, to try another channel
> > 2. Mythbackend crashes (this is on one of the stations I don't listen
> > to, so I don't care about it, but thought I would mention it)
> >
> > So it seems it does "support" it (older versions wouldn't add them to
> > the scan table) but how do I actually listen to the radio?
>
> One issue I had when DVB radio support was added was needing to ensure
> the recording profile (via mythtv-setup) was NOT set to 'TV' for the
> card. Using the 'TV' profile requires at least 1 video stream to be
> present, which my UK-based DVB-T radion recordings do not have,
> causing any recordings and LiveTV listening to fail. Setting the
> profile to 'All' cured this.


1. I cannot find anything about recording profiles in mythtv-setup.
Could you maybe tell me the menu structure to look under?

2. Under recording profiles in mythfrontend (in the options section)
there are only options about "Recording Type" which lists "Normal,"
"Tv Only", and "Audio Only." Mine was set up on "Normal".

3. When I try to change to a DVB radio channel, the backend log says this:
"2007-01-21 15:04:04.459 DTVSM(0) Error: We want 0 audio and 1 video streams
But have 1 audio and 0 video streams"

Any ideas?
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knowledgejunkie at gmail

Jan 20, 2007, 9:05 PM

Post #24 of 25 (746 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 21/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:

> 1. I cannot find anything about recording profiles in mythtv-setup.
> Could you maybe tell me the menu structure to look under?

Sorry - you found the setting I meant in the frontend settings below.
I must have imagined it was in mythtv-setup.

> 2. Under recording profiles in mythfrontend (in the options section)
> there are only options about "Recording Type" which lists "Normal,"
> "Tv Only", and "Audio Only." Mine was set up on "Normal".

If set to 'Normal', all streams should be recorded. However, there is
a trac ticket (http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2300) concerning
where DVB radio fails even if your recording profile is set to
'Normal' . The ticket states the problem the ticket submitted was
having was fixed in revision 11815. Which version of MythTV are you
using?

# mythbackend --version

> 3. When I try to change to a DVB radio channel, the backend log says this:
> "2007-01-21 15:04:04.459 DTVSM(0) Error: We want 0 audio and 1 video streams
> But have 1 audio and 0 video streams"
>

That's the message I was getting until I reverted back from 'TV' to
'Normal' - this gives the value of 'all' in the database I mentioned
earlier in the thread - and I've not had a problem since.

Nick
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bill at bbqninja

Jan 20, 2007, 9:39 PM

Post #25 of 25 (747 views)
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Re: DVB Radio [In reply to]

On 1/21/07, Nick Morrott <knowledgejunkie[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> On 21/01/07, Bill Williamson <bill[at]bbqninja.com> wrote:
> > 1. I cannot find anything about recording profiles in mythtv-setup.
> > Could you maybe tell me the menu structure to look under?
> Sorry - you found the setting I meant in the frontend settings below.
> I must have imagined it was in mythtv-setup.

No worries. The setup and config menus are my only complaint with
myth currently :)

> > 2. Under recording profiles in mythfrontend (in the options section)
> > there are only options about "Recording Type" which lists "Normal,"
> > "Tv Only", and "Audio Only." Mine was set up on "Normal".
> If set to 'Normal', all streams should be recorded. However, there is
> a trac ticket (http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2300) concerning
> where DVB radio fails even if your recording profile is set to
> 'Normal' . The ticket states the problem the ticket submitted was
> having was fixed in revision 11815. Which version of MythTV are you
> using?
>
> # mythbackend --version

Ubuntu 6.10's deb from universe:

bbqninja[at]megatron:~$ mythbackend --version
Library API version: 0.20.20060828-3
Source code version: Unknown
Options compiled in:
linux debug using_xvmcw using_v4l using_oss using_alsa using_arts
using_jack using_ivtv using_firewire using_dbox2 using_hdhr
using_ip_rec using_freebox using_live using_lirc using_joystick_menu
using_dvb using_x11 using_xv using_xrandr using_xvmc using_xvmc_vld
using_opengl_vsync using_opengl using_frontend using_backend
bbqninja[at]megatron:~$


> > 3. When I try to change to a DVB radio channel, the backend log says this:
> > "2007-01-21 15:04:04.459 DTVSM(0) Error: We want 0 audio and 1 video streams
> > But have 1 audio and 0 video streams"
> >
>
> That's the message I was getting until I reverted back from 'TV' to
> 'Normal' - this gives the value of 'all' in the database I mentioned
> earlier in the thread - and I've not had a problem since.

All DVB profiles are set to normal (although I only use default) and
have been since setup/install. The table you referenced above still
has zero total records in it.
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