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james at booths

Jun 23, 2012, 5:05 PM

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Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT)

Hi Everyone,

I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter and
weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC, unfortunately
there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this board. Since so many
people here are up to date with these boards, can anyone suggest the best
value board available today that has proper graphics driver support under
Linux, but does not need to be true HD playback capable.

Cheers,
James.

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Jun 24, 2012, 2:06 AM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On 24 June 2012 12:05, James Booth <james [at] booths> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
> fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter and
> weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC,
> unfortunately
> there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this board. Since so many
> people here are up to date with these boards, can anyone suggest the best
> value board available today that has proper graphics driver support under
> Linux, but does not need to be true HD playback capable.
>

Maybe not quite what your looking for but if you could get one... raspberry
pi, cant beat the price and i imagine the lower power draw would be nice on
a boat

Jason Taylor

--
"Weekends don't count unless you spend them doing something completely
pointless. " - Calven

james at booths

Jun 24, 2012, 4:24 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:06:29 Jason Taylor wrote:

On 24 June 2012 12:05, James Booth <james [at] booths> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter and
weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC, unfortunately
there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this board. Since so many
people here are up to date with these boards, can anyone suggest the best
value board available today that has proper graphics driver support under
Linux, but does not need to be true HD playback capable.

Maybe not quite what your looking for but if you could get one... raspberry
pi, cant beat the price and i imagine the lower power draw would be nice on a
boat

Jason Taylor

I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to see
how well it performs - I do have my doubts.

paulgir at gmail

Jun 24, 2012, 4:50 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:24:16 +1200, James Booth <james [at] booths>
wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:06:29 Jason Taylor wrote:
>
> On 24 June 2012 12:05, James Booth <james [at] booths> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
> fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter and
> weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC,
> unfortunately
> there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this board. Since so many
> people here are up to date with these boards, can anyone suggest the best
> value board available today that has proper graphics driver support under
> Linux, but does not need to be true HD playback capable.
>
>
> Maybe not quite what your looking for but if you could get one...
> raspberry
> pi, cant beat the price and i imagine the lower power draw would be nice
> on a
> boat
>
> Jason Taylor
>
>
> I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> see
> how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
>
FYI:
http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121499

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james at booths

Jun 24, 2012, 5:08 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:50:54 Paulgir wrote:

> > Maybe not quite what your looking for but if you could get one...
> > raspberry
> > pi, cant beat the price and i imagine the lower power draw would be nice
> > on a
> > boat
> >
> > Jason Taylor
> >
> >
> > I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> > see
> > how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
>
> FYI:
> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121499

Decent OpenGL support is what I want for the chart plotting function (OpenCPN)
so the Raspberry Pi may yet cut the mustard.

Anyone have any opinions on the Zotac IONITX-S-E?

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markk at kc

Jun 24, 2012, 5:17 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

>
> Maybe not quite what your looking for but if you could get one...
> raspberry
> pi, cant beat the price and i imagine the lower power draw would be nice
> on a
> boat
>
> Jason Taylor
>
>
> I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> see
> how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
>
I was very pleasantly surprised as mine arrived within a few weeks (about
a month ago).
I've only had a very brief chance to play with it, from what I've seen so
far if you're trying to compare it to a "normal" PC it's pretty slow
(which I expected), for example it took quite some time to move through
the XBMC menus on the build I picked.

I'm wanting to look at using it for a number of things where speed isn't
overly important, things like
An irrigation system controller
Toy/learning tool for my little boy - in reality by the time he's old
enough it'll probably be replaced by something else though :-) !

If it could be used as front end for myth (ie most likely XBMC) that will
be really cool. So would connection to a (cheapish) sonar transducer so
that it could be used as a fish finder!

Mark

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james at booths

Jun 24, 2012, 5:17 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:50:54 Paulgir wrote:

> >
> > I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> > see
> > how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
>
> FYI:
> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121499

Apparently there are/were issues (i.e. does not work) with X using OpenGL ES
for accelerated graphics on the Raspberry Pi. Anyone know if this has been
addressed?

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killerkiwi2005 at gmail

Jun 24, 2012, 6:46 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On 25 June 2012 12:17, James Booth <james [at] booths> wrote:

> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:50:54 Paulgir wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> > > see
> > > how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
> >
> > FYI:
> > http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
> > http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121499
>
> Apparently there are/were issues (i.e. does not work) with X using OpenGL
> ES
> for accelerated graphics on the Raspberry Pi. Anyone know if this has been
> addressed?
>

Looks like its at least possible, so I have hope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fy63w6WxOw

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james at booths

Jun 24, 2012, 7:05 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:46:27 Jason Taylor wrote:

On 25 June 2012 12:17, James Booth <james [at] booths> wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:50:54 Paulgir wrote:

> >
> > I have one on order, but lead time is 10+ weeks. Will be interesting to
> > see
> > how well it performs - I do have my doubts.
>
> FYI:
> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi
> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121499

Apparently there are/were issues (i.e. does not work) with X using OpenGL ES
for accelerated graphics on the Raspberry Pi. Anyone know if this has been
addressed?

Looks like its at least possible, so I have hope
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fy63w6WxOw

Looks like that's only for QT applications. Still, surely proper X11 support
should not be far off?

gr at componic

Jun 27, 2012, 10:25 PM

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Re: Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT) [In reply to]

On 24/06/12 12:05, James Booth wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
> fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter and
> weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC, unfortunately
> there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this board. Since so many
> people here are up to date with these boards, can anyone suggest the best
> value board available today that has proper graphics driver support under
> Linux, but does not need to be true HD playback capable.
>
> Cheers,
> James.

Hi James,

There is some graphics driver support for this board. Meego 1.2 has the full
proprietary driver and there is some support for Ubuntu:
<http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11976680&postcount=97>

I don't think that the Ubuntu driver does much acceleration, but it at least
allows detection of the monitor resolution. I have one in the family PC that I
originally bought for MythTV but it doesn't have a PCI express slot so I
couldn't use it. Meego runs well on it, but the repos don't have a lot of stuff.
I swapped it to Ubuntu yesterday with the above driver and it appears to be OK
so far, but we only use it for web browsing and flash games.

Glenn

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james at booths

Jun 28, 2012, 1:25 PM

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Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] Fanless Mini-ITX (slightly OT)

On 24/06/12 12:05, James Booth wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I know this subject has been done to death, however I am looking for a
> fanless, integrated mini-itx board for use on my boat (chart plotter
> and weather fax), not as a Myth frontend. I have an Intel D2700DC,
> unfortunately there are no proper Linux graphics drivers for this
> board. Since so many people here are up to date with these boards, can
> anyone suggest the best value board available today that has proper
> graphics driver support under Linux, but does not need to be true HD
playback capable.
>
> Cheers,
> James.

Hi James,

There is some graphics driver support for this board. Meego 1.2 has the full
proprietary driver and there is some support for Ubuntu:
<http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11976680&postcount=97>

I don't think that the Ubuntu driver does much acceleration, but it at least
allows detection of the monitor resolution. I have one in the family PC that
I originally bought for MythTV but it doesn't have a PCI express slot so I
couldn't use it. Meego runs well on it, but the repos don't have a lot of
stuff.
I swapped it to Ubuntu yesterday with the above driver and it appears to be
OK so far, but we only use it for web browsing and flash games.

Glenn

Thanks for that Glen, it is currently running Lubuntu so that should
hopefully at least get the resolution issue sorted out. I understand Meego
is pretty much dead as a distro?

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