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markk at kc

Aug 14, 2011, 8:11 PM

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BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...)

On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 14:59 +1200, Criggie wrote:

> Hadley Rich wrote, On 08/15/2011 02:13 PM:
> > On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 14:06 +1200, Steve Hodge wrote:
> >> The VGA input might just not be very good on that TV. On my ancient, low-end plasma the VGA input is terrible, the main problem being ghosting. The DVI input looks great. OTOH on my desktop monitors I cannot see a difference between the VGA and DVI inputs.
> > That's a good point. On the panels I've used there's no difference to me between VGA and DVI/HDMI
> Mine's two years old, a 720 sony screen.
>
> There's a significant difference between VGA and HDMI, in that the VGA
> is softer looking and the colours are more washed out.
>
> Also the resolutions supported are different... HDMI only shows up in
> 1280x720 but the VGA input is more forgiving and allowed 1280x720 up to
> about 1372x720.
>
> However I get no bios output at all... nothing until the machine's
> booted and starts X.


I was wondering if this was common, I've got a 5-6 year old Dick Smith
(made by KTV) 720 LCD panel which if I have DSUB and HDMI plugged in
gives no HDMI output at certain resolutions (ie console). If HDMI only
is plugged in I get horrible continuous flashing situation with
console/bios boot displayed normally followed by a completely green
screen.

Mark


ross at inertia

Aug 14, 2011, 9:25 PM

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Re: BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...) [In reply to]

>>
>> However I get no bios output at all... nothing until the machine's
>> booted and starts X.
>
> I was wondering if this was common, I've got a 5-6 year old Dick Smith (made by KTV) 720 LCD panel which if I have DSUB and HDMI plugged in gives no HDMI output at certain resolutions (ie console). If HDMI only is plugged in I get horrible continuous flashing situation with console/bios boot displayed normally followed by a completely green screen.

My recent-ish (~1 year old) Sony displays the BIOS screens fine via HDMI, though they do have a large black border around them. My parents' brand new Samsung behaves the same way. I've never used VGA with the TV (never had any need to) so I don't know what that's like.

Ross
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killerkiwi2005 at gmail

Aug 14, 2011, 10:08 PM

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Re: BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...) [In reply to]

On 15 August 2011 16:25, Ross Williamson <ross [at] inertia> wrote:

> >>
> >> However I get no bios output at all... nothing until the machine's
> >> booted and starts X.
> >
> > I was wondering if this was common, I've got a 5-6 year old Dick Smith
> (made by KTV) 720 LCD panel which if I have DSUB and HDMI plugged in gives
> no HDMI output at certain resolutions (ie console). If HDMI only is plugged
> in I get horrible continuous flashing situation with console/bios boot
> displayed normally followed by a completely green screen.
>
> My recent-ish (~1 year old) Sony displays the BIOS screens fine via HDMI,
> though they do have a large black border around them. My parents' brand new
> Samsung behaves the same way. I've never used VGA with the TV (never had any
> need to) so I don't know what that's like.
>

My Samsung works with correct resolution with HDMI but my parents needs
overscan adjustment to fill the screen (?!!??!)...

Also using the VGA port on my Samsung when booting linux caused the picture
via HDMI to be permanently red
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-371139.html
Managed to work around it by using the service menu and pushing red all the
way down but was/is very anoying

Jason Taylor

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tortise at paradise

Aug 15, 2011, 12:52 AM

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Re: BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...) [In reply to]

On 15/08/2011 5:08 p.m., Jason Taylor wrote:
> My Samsung works with correct resolution with HDMI but my parents needs
> overscan adjustment to fill the screen (?!!??!)...

Annoying, I can relate....

I upgraded a 10.04 mythbuntu on a CF connected via VGA to a 40C6200
Samsung that was working fine to 10.10 on a SSD which suddenly needed
overscan adjustment however as it was running 1080i overscan adjustment
was not available. I could not find a xorg.conf that fixed it. Maybe
someone can suggest? If I wasn't able to vnc in to get the full 1080i
(on a 1920x1200 screen) I'd have asked earlier. To be clear nothing
else was changed hardware wise.


> Also using the VGA port on my Samsung when booting linux caused the
> picture via HDMI to be permanently red
> http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-371139.html
> Managed to work around it by using the service menu and pushing red all
> the way down but was/is very anoying

The description seems designed to make a support person cross eyed....
Sounds like a cable / connection issue? Are Green and Blue there?

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killerkiwi2005 at gmail

Aug 15, 2011, 4:58 PM

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Re: BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...) [In reply to]

On 15 August 2011 19:52, tortise <tortise [at] paradise> wrote:

> On 15/08/2011 5:08 p.m., Jason Taylor wrote:
> > My Samsung works with correct resolution with HDMI but my parents needs
> > overscan adjustment to fill the screen (?!!??!)...
>
> Annoying, I can relate....
>
> I upgraded a 10.04 mythbuntu on a CF connected via VGA to a 40C6200
> Samsung that was working fine to 10.10 on a SSD which suddenly needed
> overscan adjustment however as it was running 1080i overscan adjustment
> was not available. I could not find a xorg.conf that fixed it. Maybe
> someone can suggest? If I wasn't able to vnc in to get the full 1080i
> (on a 1920x1200 screen) I'd have asked earlier. To be clear nothing
> else was changed hardware wise.
>

Well I just used the nvidia-settings panel overscan slider


>
>
> > Also using the VGA port on my Samsung when booting linux caused the
> > picture via HDMI to be permanently red
> > http://forums.cnet.com/7723-13973_102-371139.html
> > Managed to work around it by using the service menu and pushing red all
> > the way down but was/is very anoying
>
>
> The description seems designed to make a support person cross eyed....
> Sounds like a cable / connection issue? Are Green and Blue there?
>
Yeah picture is fine now but it took me some serious google time to figure
it out

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tortise at paradise

Aug 15, 2011, 5:21 PM

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Re: BIOS boot screen (was Re: HD Video jerky...) [In reply to]

On 16/08/2011 11:58 a.m., Jason Taylor wrote:
>
>
> On 15 August 2011 19:52, tortise <tortise [at] paradise


> I upgraded a 10.04 mythbuntu on a CF connected via VGA to a 40C6200
> Samsung that was working fine to 10.10 on a SSD which suddenly needed
> overscan adjustment however as it was running 1080i overscan adjustment
> was not available. I could not find a xorg.conf that fixed it. Maybe
> someone can suggest? If I wasn't able to vnc in to get the full 1080i
> (on a 1920x1200 screen) I'd have asked earlier. To be clear nothing
> else was changed hardware wise.
>
>
> Well I just used the nvidia-settings panel overscan slider

It doesn't show when running 1080i over VGA. Previous tests showed that
it reappeared when running lower resolutions such as 720p. (Thanks
NVIDIA.) For the record on this box I am running NVIDIA 260.19.06 on a
PCI 9400GT with 512M RAM (P3000 on an ASUS motherboard)

If it works for you what

resolution are you driving,
with what card,
which driver
OS, and
Myth version?

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