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bretcarolyn at yahoo

Nov 20, 2009, 4:47 AM

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still learning

I have been using 8.10 with a asus board 2.4 quad core 9400 Niv pcie and happ nova t 500 card Nick Rout did the install for many months had good system but my son played with it now I am at a loss is there a next step on the forum I read about the HI IQ guys who can do things that I understand to a small degree .
My hardware skills are fair and would like to play in this area but I have tried and can not get my head around the soft ware
I am a believer in this type of system and would tell people of its benefit's  but its a bit to complex for the lower ed person can you make it a bit more easier to understand
 
Bret


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james6.0 at gmail

Nov 20, 2009, 4:20 PM

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Call a company called sky, and ask for a MySky, there are a lot of HI IQs
there. Sky is owned by a man named Rupert Murdoch who has the HIest IQ of
them all.

A man with a HI IQ will come to your house, who probably isn't rupert
murdoch, but we can all be hopeful, make a lot of unnecessary holes in your
wall, clip cable down the side of your house in the most ugly possible
fashion.

The MySky will make your IQ very HI. Until the satellite stops of course.

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Bret Everett <bretcarolyn [at] yahoo>wrote:

> I have been using 8.10 with a asus board 2.4 quad core 9400 Niv pcie and
> happ nova t 500 card Nick Rout did the install for many months had good
> system but my son played with it now I am at a loss is there a next step on
> the forum I read about the HI IQ guys who can do things that I understand to
> a small degree .
> My hardware skills are fair and would like to play in this area but I have
> tried and can not get my head around the soft ware
> I am a believer in this type of system and would tell people of its
> benefit's but its a bit to complex for the lower ed person can you make it
> a bit more easier to understand
>
> Bret
>
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lists at whitehouse

Nov 21, 2009, 12:17 AM

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James Gray wrote:
> Call a company called sky, and ask for a MySky, there are a lot of HI
> [...]
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Bret Everett <bretcarolyn [at] yahoo
> <mailto:bretcarolyn [at] yahoo>> wrote:
> I am a believer in this type of system and would tell people of its
> benefit's but its a bit to complex for the lower ed person can you
> make it a bit more easier to understand

James, I don't think this was really necessary. Bret made his point
very politely.

The reality is that MythTV is incredibly powerful, but it is hard to
install and even harder to make everything work 100% (heck, I still have
buttons on my remote that don't work). I was talking to a sys-admin who
is one of the best computer-users that I know and manages hundreds of
machines. He had some issues (his sound device and remote wouldn't work
on reboot because the /dev/ node kept changing and needed a UDEV rule)
and was asking why it was so hard to install, because if it were easier,
his company would love to sell them.

Bret -- the main difficulty with MythTV is that it has to work on many
different hardware configurations. If everyone was using MythTV on the
same hardware, it would be easy to set up and make it work correctly.
Another issue is that MythTV is software that runs on a lot of different
Gnu/Linux distributions and it is the distributions that talk to the
hardware. Distributions like KnoppMyth and Mythbuntu are starting to
tie everything together, but it takes a lot of work.

As one example, it is very difficult to set up remotes automatically as
they don't tell the computer very much about themselves.

A company does sell MythTV pre-configured and supported:
http://www.mypvr.co.nz

There are other areas where MythTV is unnecessarily difficult to
configure and set up. One real problem, Bret, is that MythTV is
written by developers, who are very good at using MythTV. The better
one is at using MythTV and Gnu/Linux, the less of an issue the
configuration and usability seems. MythTV is becoming easier to use over
time and I believe that it will continue to do so.

James, your points about Sky putting holes in the wall aren't really
relevant to the usability of the device. There are quite a lot of
things that MythTV could learn from MySky.

Regards,

Aaron


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nick.rout at gmail

Nov 21, 2009, 11:25 AM

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On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Aaron Whitehouse
<lists [at] whitehouse> wrote:
>
> Regards,
>
> Aaron

Thanks for your encouragement Aaron.

After many months of trying to find the time I went to Bret's
yesterday. His 8.10 system had a few errors and we thought it easier
to blitz it and move to a fresh install of 9.10. We got it sort of up
and going, but there are a few unresolved issues which at the moment
make it unusable:

Problem 1 - I2C errors on Nova-T
============================

He has a Nova-T 500 PCI card which is giving i2c errors, specifically:

mt2060 I2C write failed (len=6)
mt2060 I2C read failed

At that point live tv and recording fail and only a reboot can fix it.
It happens within a few minutes of starting to watch live tv, which as
I say makes it unusable.

Problem 2 - Only HD channels are scanned
====================================

Error was identified and fixed by Steve Ellis, who stated
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/402403 that his
fix had been included in trunk and 0.22-fixes. Steve, what version do
I need to get to have this included. I updated Bret's machine to
whatever the latest mythbuntu daily builds was but the scanner,
although claiming to find a number of candidates on channels 47,49 and
51, in the end only returns the 4 HD channels (TV1, TV2, TV3, Freeview
Test.)

Problem 3 - no epg data using tv_grab_tz-py
=====================================

I think i can probably resolve that when I get time to go back. I'd
like to have some ideas about the other problems first.


Other than that the machine is up and running.

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stephen_agent at jsw

Nov 21, 2009, 5:14 PM

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On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:25:03 +1300, you wrote:


>Problem 2 - Only HD channels are scanned
>====================================
>
>Error was identified and fixed by Steve Ellis, who stated
>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/402403 that his
>fix had been included in trunk and 0.22-fixes. Steve, what version do
>I need to get to have this included. I updated Bret's machine to
>whatever the latest mythbuntu daily builds was but the scanner,
>although claiming to find a number of candidates on channels 47,49 and
>51, in the end only returns the 4 HD channels (TV1, TV2, TV3, Freeview
>Test.)

The fix for this is already in JYA's 0.22-fixes repository. It turned
up a couple of days ago. His repository is being updated daily with
fixes as they happen.

http://www.avenard.org/media/Ubuntu_Repository/Ubuntu_Repository.html

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hads at nice

Nov 21, 2009, 7:12 PM

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On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 14:14 +1300, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> The fix for this is already in JYA's 0.22-fixes repository. It turned
> up a couple of days ago. His repository is being updated daily with
> fixes as they happen.

The Mythbuntu autobuilds repository does too.

hads

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steven at openmedia

Nov 21, 2009, 9:51 PM

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On Sun, November 22, 2009 2:14 pm, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:25:03 +1300, you wrote:
>
>
>>Problem 2 - Only HD channels are scanned
>>====================================
>>
>>Error was identified and fixed by Steve Ellis, who stated
>>http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/mythtvnz/402403 that his
>>fix had been included in trunk and 0.22-fixes. Steve, what version do
>>I need to get to have this included. I updated Bret's machine to
>>whatever the latest mythbuntu daily builds was but the scanner,
>>although claiming to find a number of candidates on channels 47,49 and
>>51, in the end only returns the 4 HD channels (TV1, TV2, TV3, Freeview
>>Test.)
>

Hope to try out the new Mythbuntu Autobuild this week to confirm the
patches are working. Been out of town recently and not had a chance to
update the test rig.


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