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vance at juniper

Nov 2, 2009, 2:40 AM

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micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots

There's been significant discussion on this list about nVidia drivers
and support of H.264 for DVB-T - but since I can't get DVB-T until
freeview increase their coverage I'm considering dumping my nVidia card
(whose nasty-as fan currently hides a valuable PCI slot). So, I'm
interested in feedback on the level of ATI support with MythTV (just for
SD channel use).

I have a **Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev 1.1 motherboard (with AMD780G)
which according to this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series#Integrated_graphics,
has integrated graphics through ATI/RADEON HD3200 (currently disabled).
If I can use this IGP, then it will allow me to remove my "double-width"
nVidia 9600GT hence freeing up enough space to allow me to install a
second DVB-S card. Yay!

So my question is, can I do this with MythTV without requiring any great
amount of hacking / patching?

As a second thought - any suggestions on a new mATX motherboard that has
more than 2 PCI slots or just doesn't have the PCI-E(x16) slot right
next to the PCI slots? Ideally the replacement motherboard would still
support my AM2 Athlon64 X2 and two DDR2 PC6400 SDRAM's.
<sigh>--Sometimes I think an ATX would have been a better option.

Vance

**http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx
?ProductID=2814

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criggie at criggie

Nov 2, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Re: micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots [In reply to]

Vance McIndoe wrote:
> As a second thought - any suggestions on a new mATX motherboard that has
> more than 2 PCI slots or just doesn't have the PCI-E(x16) slot right
> next to the PCI slots? Ideally the replacement motherboard would still
> support my AM2 Athlon64 X2 and two DDR2 PC6400 SDRAM's.
> <sigh>--Sometimes I think an ATX would have been a better option.

Vance - third thought... consider replacing the cooler with something
smaller?

Silent http://www.quietpc.com/nz/vgamb.html#zm80xhp

There are also quiet fan options too.

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nick.rout at gmail

Nov 2, 2009, 12:10 PM

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Re: micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots [In reply to]

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Vance McIndoe <vance[at]juniper.net> wrote:
> There's been significant discussion on this list about nVidia drivers
> and support of H.264 for DVB-T - but since I can't get DVB-T until
> freeview increase their coverage I'm considering dumping my nVidia card
> (whose nasty-as fan currently hides a valuable PCI slot). So, I'm
> interested in feedback on the level of ATI support with MythTV (just for
> SD channel use).
>
> I have a **Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev 1.1 motherboard (with AMD780G)
> which according to this page
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_700_chipset_series#Integrated_graphics,
> has integrated graphics through ATI/RADEON HD3200 (currently disabled).
> If I can use this IGP, then it will allow me to remove my "double-width"
> nVidia 9600GT hence freeing up enough space to allow me to install a
> second DVB-S card. Yay!

As a general rule I woul say avoid ATI with mythtv. Some people report
success but mostly it seems to be a path of pain.

Besides even SD will benefit from vdpau, the deinterlacing is lovely.

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g.woollett at irl

Nov 2, 2009, 12:20 PM

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Re: micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots [In reply to]

criggie wrote:
> Vance McIndoe wrote:
>
>> As a second thought - any suggestions on a new mATX motherboard that has
>> more than 2 PCI slots or just doesn't have the PCI-E(x16) slot right
>> next to the PCI slots? Ideally the replacement motherboard would still
>> support my AM2 Athlon64 X2 and two DDR2 PC6400 SDRAM's.
>> <sigh>--Sometimes I think an ATX would have been a better option.
>>
>
> Vance - third thought... consider replacing the cooler with something
> smaller?
>
> Silent http://www.quietpc.com/nz/vgamb.html#zm80xhp
>
> There are also quiet fan options too.
>
>
>
I had the same problem with my system, but since I can get DVB-T I
ditched my Nova T 500 and replaced it with a PCI-E HVR2200.
I doubt you will found a modern m/b without a PCI-E slot. Some of the
m/b's around have the PCI-E and GPU slot so that the PCI-E one gets
covered by the double width graphics card, leaving 2 free PCI slots.
Good hunting.

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vance at juniper

Nov 2, 2009, 12:58 PM

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Re: micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots [In reply to]

Nick wrote:
>
> As a general rule I woul say avoid ATI with mythtv. Some
> people report success but mostly it seems to be a path of pain.
>
> Besides even SD will benefit from vdpau, the deinterlacing is lovely.
>

Thanks Nick. I don't especially want to ditch the nVidia anyway - I
just want to recover my second PCI slot.

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vance at juniper

Nov 2, 2009, 12:59 PM

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Re: micro ATX with insufficient PCI slots [In reply to]

criggie wrote:
>
> Vance - third thought... consider replacing the cooler with something
> smaller?
>
> Silent http://www.quietpc.com/nz/vgamb.html#zm80xhp
>
> There are also quiet fan options too.

Now that is a great suggestion! Thanks. I'm trying to find out how
wide that makes the card after it's fitted, and whether it supports the
nVidia 9600GT (doesn't appear to be listed).

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