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steven at openmedia

Aug 15, 2009, 9:57 PM

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Prime on freeview from tomorrow

News i up on Geekzone and Throng

http://www.throng.co.nz/prime/prime-joins-freeview


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steven at openmedia

Aug 15, 2009, 10:08 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On 16/08/2009, at 4:57 PM, Steven Ellis wrote:

> News i up on Geekzone and Throng
>
> http://www.throng.co.nz/prime/prime-joins-freeview

Some additional information c/o NBR

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/prime-goes-freeview-did-kordia-sweeten-deal-107538

Word is DTT and DTH on channel 10. Actual SID allocation probably
won't be confirmed until tomorrow.

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hads at nice

Aug 15, 2009, 10:13 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 16:57 +1200, Steven Ellis wrote:
> News i up on Geekzone and Throng
>
>
> http://www.throng.co.nz/prime/prime-joins-freeview

Cool. Didn't see that one coming.

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nick.rout at gmail

Aug 15, 2009, 10:54 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Steven Ellis<steven [at] openmedia> wrote:
> News i up on Geekzone and Throng
> http://www.throng.co.nz/prime/prime-joins-freeview

<mrburns>excellent</mrburns>

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steven at openmedia

Aug 15, 2009, 11:18 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

PRESS RELEASE: Sunday 18th August, 2009
Prime Now Available on Freeview Satellite® And Freeview |HD®
platforms
Freeview Limited and SKY Television announce that an agreement has
been reached
regarding Prime Television being made available on Freeview satellite®
and
Freeview|HD® platforms from Monday 17th August, 2009.

Having launched a little over two years ago, the availability of Prime
on Freeview now
brings the total number of channels to 13 on Freeview satellite® and
12 on Freeview|HD®.
This is yet another compelling reason for Kiwis to switch from
analogue TV to free-to-air
digital TV.

More than a quarter of a million homes have already done so, as was
signalled by
Freeview in July 2009.

Freeview was created to provide consumer choice in digital TV access
and this latest
exciting development means New Zealanders can now choose to watch all
national
free-to-air channels in digital quality.

􏰀All you need is a Freeview approved digital receiver and your
existing TV and you can
enjoy Prime􏰁s programmes in digital quality for free􏰂 says Sam
Irvine, General Manager,
Freeview.

Current Prime viewers may also be able to take advantage of their UHF
aerials which
could provide them with access to the Freeview |HD® platform. All
viewers need to do is
to visit www.freeviewnz.tv to see if they are in a Freeview |HD®
coverage area.




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criggie at criggie

Aug 16, 2009, 12:01 AM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Hadley Rich wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-08-16 at 16:57 +1200, Steven Ellis wrote:
>> News i up on Geekzone and Throng
>> http://www.throng.co.nz/prime/prime-joins-freeview

> Cool. Didn't see that one coming.

Neither - just spend the weekend rejigging my main server so it worked
again (combinations of drive upgrades, pci SATA controllers from hell
etc) when I could and should have bought a new PCIe capable board for
the mythbox and rolled the rest sideways.

I said I'd upgrade only when Prime was on freeview.

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tortise at paradise

Aug 16, 2009, 2:09 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Ellis
To: MythTV in NZ
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mythtvnz] Prime on freeview from tomorrow

Word is DTT and DTH on channel 10. Actual SID allocation probably won't be confirmed until tomorrow.



<Begin>

Receipt of Prime is confirmed from Kaukau on Ch 59, Program 1404. "10 Prime"

SD

Must have just taken a flick of a switch? (Now If only I wanted to lose weight!)

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jfp at clearfield

Aug 16, 2009, 2:44 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

It's also just showed up in the Satellite EIT guides:

PRIME:12483:h:0:22500:520:658:1928

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mrama at orcon

Aug 16, 2009, 4:18 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Hi,

Prime is on now!! For Satellite users frequency is 12456, SID - 22500, P
: H.

Rama Madhusudhan.

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killerkiwi2005 at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 6:14 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Got it here as well..

Now what to do with the old PVR150 cards....

2009/8/17 Rama Madhusudhan <mrama [at] orcon>:
> Hi,
>
> Prime is on now!! For Satellite users frequency is 12456, SID - 22500, P
> : H.
>
> Rama Madhusudhan.
>
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ivstinivs at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 6:26 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Managed to tune in Prime on DTT in Hamilton.

Mythtv comes up with a channel number all by itself, 244. How does one
change that to 10? Or does it happen automatically? (In the table of
channels in the mythweb settings, there are two entries; channum and
freqid.)

Cheers
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stevehodge at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 6:26 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp [at] clearfield>wrote:

>
> It's also just showed up in the Satellite EIT guides:
>
> PRIME:12483:h:0:22500:520:658:1928
>

The PIDs are right, but it's on 12456 not 12483.

Cheers,
Steve


stevehodge at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 6:36 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Justin Hyde <ivstinivs [at] gmail> wrote:

> Managed to tune in Prime on DTT in Hamilton.
>
> Mythtv comes up with a channel number all by itself, 244. How does one
> change that to 10? Or does it happen automatically? (In the table of
> channels in the mythweb settings, there are two entries; channum and
> freqid.)
>

Channum is the number that you enter in Live TV to select the channel.
Freqid is the frequency number that the channel appears on - i.e. what
channel a analogue tuner needs to be set to. AFAIK freqid is not used for
DTT channels (it's not used for DTH channels anyway).

Cheers,
Steve


criggie at criggie

Aug 16, 2009, 6:41 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

I use one for capturing from vhs tape.

Use one as an input from an analogue camera? Make it a security monitor?


Jason Taylor wrote:
> Got it here as well..
>
> Now what to do with the old PVR150 cards....
>
> 2009/8/17 Rama Madhusudhan <mrama [at] orcon>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Prime is on now!! For Satellite users frequency is 12456, SID - 22500, P
>> : H.
>>
>> Rama Madhusudhan.
>>
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Aaron.Drysdale at provencocadmus

Aug 16, 2009, 7:03 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

>> Prime is on now!! For Satellite users frequency is 12456, SID -
22500, P

Hi all,

What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to scan
from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as I have
often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my xmltv IDs.
Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice the pain
if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be gratefully
received.

Thanks
Aaron

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hads at nice

Aug 16, 2009, 7:17 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 14:03 +1200, Aaron Drysdale wrote:
> What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to scan
> from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as I have
> often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my xmltv IDs.
> Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice the pain
> if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be gratefully
> received.

I just insert a record directly into the mysql table myself. Note that
this may break things and isn't a supported way of changing settings.

Something like;

INSERT INTO channel(chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name,
icon, xmltvid, visible, mplexid, serviceid) VALUES($1, 4, 4, $2,
'Prime', 'Prime', '/home/hads/.mythtv/channels/prime.jpg',
'prime.sky.co.nz', 1, $3, 1928);

You need to sort out $1, $2 and $3, and possibly adjust channel numbers,
icons, and xmltvids to suit your system.

SELECT MAX(chanid) + 1 FROM channel;

will give you $1;

SELECT * FROM videosource;

will give you $2, and;

SELECT mplexid FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE frequency = 12456000;

will give you $3. You should be able to do all that in one query too.

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stevehodge at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 8:21 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Hadley Rich <hads [at] nice> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 14:03 +1200, Aaron Drysdale wrote:
> > What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to scan
> > from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as I have
> > often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my xmltv IDs.
> > Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice the pain
> > if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be gratefully
> > received.
>
> I just insert a record directly into the mysql table myself. Note that
> this may break things and isn't a supported way of changing settings.
>
> Something like;
>
> INSERT INTO channel(chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name,
> icon, xmltvid, visible, mplexid, serviceid) VALUES($1, 4, 4, $2,
> 'Prime', 'Prime', '/home/hads/.mythtv/channels/prime.jpg',
> 'prime.sky.co.nz', 1, $3, 1928);
>
> You need to sort out $1, $2 and $3, and possibly adjust channel numbers,
> icons, and xmltvids to suit your system.
>
> SELECT MAX(chanid) + 1 FROM channel;
>
> will give you $1;
>
> SELECT * FROM videosource;
>
> will give you $2, and;
>
> SELECT mplexid FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE frequency = 12456000;
>
> will give you $3. You should be able to do all that in one query too.


This is how I did it as well. One shortcut for figuring out mplexid and
sourceid is to look at what is in the channel table for one of the other
channels on the same multiplex. E.g. for Satellite you can copy the values
used for TV 3.

Cheers,
Steve


nick.rout at gmail

Aug 16, 2009, 8:25 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Justin Hyde<ivstinivs [at] gmail> wrote:
> Managed to tune in Prime on DTT in Hamilton.
>
> Mythtv comes up with a channel number all by itself, 244. How does one
> change that to 10? Or does it happen automatically? (In the table of
> channels in the mythweb settings, there are two entries; channum and
> freqid.)

Go into mythweb, settings, then (something like) tv settings and
change it in there.

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noel at igrin

Aug 16, 2009, 8:31 PM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Aaron Drysdale wrote:
>>> Prime is on now!! For Satellite users frequency is 12456, SID -
>>>
> 22500, P
>
> Hi all,
>
> What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to scan
> from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as I have
> often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my xmltv IDs.
> Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice the pain
> if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be gratefully
> received.
>
> Thanks
> Aaron
>
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>
Minimal update from existing transports option should do the trick.

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ross.jemima at gmail

Aug 21, 2009, 1:45 AM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

I couldn't get this to work for me but I think it was because I wasn't
sure which multiplex id to use (looking back at it now I see I guessed
wrong so it may have worked if I tried each one). Note this is for
DVB-T in Hamilton, I'm not sure if it will work everywhere.

Way I got it to work is from the backend go to channel scan but select
from the scan type options choose 'scan existing transports'. I also
selected ignore timeout but I'm not sure if this is needed. This didn't
seem to wreck any of my existing channels.

Then getting mythfilldatabase (xmltvnz / tv_grab_nz-/py) to work
involved going to ~/user/.mythtv/XMLTVNZ.xml and changing the '!' to a
'=/' for the prime.sky.co.nz entry and rerunning mythfilldatabase.

HTH someone

Steve Hodge wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Hadley Rich <hads [at] nice
> <mailto:hads [at] nice>> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 14:03 +1200, Aaron Drysdale wrote:
> > What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to
> scan
> > from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as
> I have
> > often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my
> xmltv IDs.
> > Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice
> the pain
> > if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be
> gratefully
> > received.
>
> I just insert a record directly into the mysql table myself. Note that
> this may break things and isn't a supported way of changing settings.
>
> Something like;
>
> INSERT INTO channel(chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign, name,
> icon, xmltvid, visible, mplexid, serviceid) VALUES($1, 4, 4, $2,
> 'Prime', 'Prime', '/home/hads/.mythtv/channels/prime.jpg',
> 'prime.sky.co.nz <http://prime.sky.co.nz>', 1, $3, 1928);
>
> You need to sort out $1, $2 and $3, and possibly adjust channel
> numbers,
> icons, and xmltvids to suit your system.
>
> SELECT MAX(chanid) + 1 FROM channel;
>
> will give you $1;
>
> SELECT * FROM videosource;
>
> will give you $2, and;
>
> SELECT mplexid FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE frequency = 12456000;
>
> will give you $3. You should be able to do all that in one query too.
>
>
> This is how I did it as well. One shortcut for figuring out mplexid
> and sourceid is to look at what is in the channel table for one of the
> other channels on the same multiplex. E.g. for Satellite you can copy
> the values used for TV 3.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
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>
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ross.jemima at gmail

Aug 21, 2009, 2:12 AM

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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

Oh and one other thing, after I did all that the channel was set to
invisible (ie not visible). I fixed this in mythweb (as well as
tweaking a few other parameters such as the channelid) but you could
probably fix this in mythbackend.

Bummer that Prime is on a different multiplex to TVNZ and TV3 etc as I
won't be able to simultaneously record all of them (Nova T 500). Oh
well it might be TV3-Plus to the rescue!

Ross and Jemima Knudsen wrote:
> I couldn't get this to work for me but I think it was because I wasn't
> sure which multiplex id to use (looking back at it now I see I guessed
> wrong so it may have worked if I tried each one). Note this is for
> DVB-T in Hamilton, I'm not sure if it will work everywhere.
>
> Way I got it to work is from the backend go to channel scan but select
> from the scan type options choose 'scan existing transports'. I also
> selected ignore timeout but I'm not sure if this is needed. This
> didn't seem to wreck any of my existing channels.
>
> Then getting mythfilldatabase (xmltvnz / tv_grab_nz-/py) to work
> involved going to ~/user/.mythtv/XMLTVNZ.xml and changing the '!' to a
> '=/' for the prime.sky.co.nz entry and rerunning mythfilldatabase.
>
> HTH someone
>
> Steve Hodge wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Hadley Rich <hads [at] nice
>> <mailto:hads [at] nice>> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2009-08-17 at 14:03 +1200, Aaron Drysdale wrote:
>> > What is the easiest way to add this into my system? Do I have to
>> scan
>> > from the backend? Past experience with this has been painful, as
>> I have
>> > often lost the channel icons and also have to re enter all my
>> xmltv IDs.
>> > Also I have two tuners - a Nova-T 500 and Nova-S 500, so twice
>> the pain
>> > if I do it this way. Any tips on an easier method would be
>> gratefully
>> > received.
>>
>> I just insert a record directly into the mysql table myself. Note
>> that
>> this may break things and isn't a supported way of changing
>> settings.
>>
>> Something like;
>>
>> INSERT INTO channel(chanid, channum, freqid, sourceid, callsign,
>> name,
>> icon, xmltvid, visible, mplexid, serviceid) VALUES($1, 4, 4, $2,
>> 'Prime', 'Prime', '/home/hads/.mythtv/channels/prime.jpg',
>> 'prime.sky.co.nz <http://prime.sky.co.nz>', 1, $3, 1928);
>>
>> You need to sort out $1, $2 and $3, and possibly adjust channel
>> numbers,
>> icons, and xmltvids to suit your system.
>>
>> SELECT MAX(chanid) + 1 FROM channel;
>>
>> will give you $1;
>>
>> SELECT * FROM videosource;
>>
>> will give you $2, and;
>>
>> SELECT mplexid FROM dtv_multiplex WHERE frequency = 12456000;
>>
>> will give you $3. You should be able to do all that in one query
>> too.
>>
>>
>> This is how I did it as well. One shortcut for figuring out mplexid
>> and sourceid is to look at what is in the channel table for one of
>> the other channels on the same multiplex. E.g. for Satellite you can
>> copy the values used for TV 3.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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stephen_agent at jsw

Aug 21, 2009, 2:28 AM

Post #22 of 22 (3505 views)
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Re: Prime on freeview from tomorrow [In reply to]

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:12:04 +1200, you wrote:

>Bummer that Prime is on a different multiplex to TVNZ and TV3 etc as I
>won't be able to simultaneously record all of them (Nova T 500). Oh
>well it might be TV3-Plus to the rescue!

Unfortunately, TV3 Plus1 is only broadcast in 576i, so you lose the
quality of the HD programs.

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