neil_raymond at hotmail
May 16, 2007, 1:28 AM
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Re: [OS X] Running mythfrontend on apple tv - working
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Hi
I'm not sure what the best way of monitoring the system is. The OS is
missing quite a few standard components, I tried copying top across from my
macbook but no luck, it just exited without displaying anything. I'll try
and see if anything else is installed.
Regarding the Mac acceleration code, I would like to try that too. I did try
and compile it using the osx-packager.pl script with and the latest svn
code, but it failed trying to do something with ffmpeg IIRC.
The Appple remote support isn't too bad, it's just got some quirks as it is.
For example, the play button plays a recording from the view recordings
menu, but once you're watching a recording you have to hold the play button
to send pause/play commands. I think this is as much a consequence of the
default key mappings in mythtv. It's quite possible that this can be sorted,
I just haven't got that far yet.
On the plus side, I managed to fix the overscan by using the gui
width/height settings in the setup - I wasn't sure if that was going to work
or not.
I'll try and put together a full howto over the next week or so and then
stick it in the wiki. Unfortunately the procedure does require the use of an
intel mac, and you do have to take apart the AppleTV to get the drive out,
so it's probably not for everyone but hopefully some people will find it
useful.
Cheers
Neil
>From: "Todd Ignasiak" <ignasiak[at]gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>To: "Development of mythtv" <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv] [OS X] Running mythfrontend on apple tv - working
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 21:04:24 -0400
>
>On 5/15/07, Neil Raymond <neil_raymond[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Todd
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > I've actually got it working quite well now, the previous reply from
>James
> > Mulcahy pointed me in the right direction. I had a look at the fonts
> > installed on the AppleTV and compared them to those on my Macbook, and
>there
> > were a whole load more on the Macbook (unsurprisingly). I backed up the
>font
> > directories on the AppleTV and then copied all the fonts from my Macbook
> > over to the AppleTV. I repeated this for the 3 main font directories
> > (/System/Library/Fonts, /Library/Fonts and ~/Library/Fonts). It probably
> > wasn't necessary to do all 3 locations, at some point I'll go back and
>work
> > out exactly what is and isn't needed.
>
>That's great news! I'll definitely be picking one of these up.
>
>Have you looked at how much it stresses the AppleTV? Things like the
>memory utilization/swapping when it's running. Or, CPU load when
>playing SD MPEG2?
>
> > I then killed the Finder by disabling the watchdog and renaming
>Finder.app,
> > and ran MythFrontend from the ssh session. All seems to be well - I can
> > watch live tv, watch recording etc.
> >
> > It plays SD material fine, I'm connecting to a backend that's recording
> > DVB-T broadcasts. I don't have access to any any HD material other than
>the
> > BBC HD trial that is running at the moment, but that's broadcast in
> > H.264/MPEG4 AVC and there's no way the AppleTV could decode it. If
>someone
> > could point me to some HD trailers that can be legally downloaded I
>could
> > give some feedback on HD capabilities.
>
>I'll give HD a try as soon as I get an AppleTV and set it up. It
>will be interesting to see what resolution it can keep up with for
>MPEG2. It might be able to do something close to 720p, and HD
>content could be transcoded to that level.
>
>Also, the Mac OS X MPEG2 acceleration APIs offer an outside chance of
>HD support, if they get to the point where they're usable/stable.
>As far as I know, they are not their yet, but I haven't tried that
>code myself.
>
> > The only problem that I've got now is some slight overscan. I'm using
>the
> > HDMI connection at 720p resolution, but for some reason the myth display
> > still extends off the side of the screen. I'm hoping that manually
>setting
> > the display size in the setup will fix this.
> >
> > Other than that it's quite usable. It takes 3 or 4 seconds to begin
>playback
> > of a recording, but once it's playing it's fine. Skipping
>forward/backward
> > takes <1s. My backend is running on fairly low powered hardware (VIA
>EPIA
> > EN12000G) so that might not be helping. The only other niggle is the
>lack of
> > buttons on the remote, but there's nothing I can do about that.
>
>Yeah, the Apple remote is limited. But, with some remapping of keys
>it could be provide the most common inputs.
>Also, you mentioned above you have a MacBook, you could use a network
>control app on that to control the things you can't map to the remote
> (e.g. http://ignasiak.googlepages.com/mythremote )
>
>
> > >From: "Todd Ignasiak" <ignasiak[at]gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> > >To: "Development of mythtv" <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [mythtv] [OS X] Running mythfrontend on apple tv
> > >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:56:31 -0400
> > >
> > >On 5/13/07, Neil Raymond <neil_raymond[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to run mythfrontend on my appletv, using a plugin that
> > >someone
> > > > has created to allow you to run any application from within the
>appletv
> > > > finder. I can successfully run VLC and other applications using this
> > >method,
> > > > by when I try and run mythfrontend it just crashes and returns me to
>the
> > >atv
> > > > finder. I tried both pre-built 0.20.1 binaries and also compiling
>them
> > > > myself from using osx-packager.pl from the 0.20.1 svn tag. I
>compiled
> > >them
> > > > on my Macbook which is running OS X 10.4.9.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else tried this? Or does anyone have any ideads about how
>I
> > >could
> > > > get this working? It would be a really nice, (fairly) cheap front
>end if
> > > > this could be done. I've already open the atv up so I'm quite happy
>to
> > >try
> > > > anything that might get this running. If it's just a case of copying
> > >some
> > > > frameworks across or something like that it'd be great.
> > > >
> > > > Here is the crash report:
> > > >
> > > > **********
> > > >
> > > > Host Name: AppleTV
> > > > Date/Time: 2007-05-13 00:00:51.658 +0200
> > > > OS Version: 10.4.7 (Build 8N5107)
> > > > Report Version: 4
> > > >
> > > > Command: mythfrontend
> > > > Path: /Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend
> > > > Parent: Finder [181]
> > > >
> > > > Version: 0.20.0.svn20070331 (0.20.0.svn20070331)
> > > >
> > > > PID: 189
> > > > Thread: 0
> > > >
> > > > Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
> > > > Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x0000000c
> > > >
> > > > Thread 0 Crashed:
> > > > 0 qt-mt 0xb2050911 qt_macFamilyName(QString const&) + 141
> > > > 1 qt-mt 0xb202b7f3 QFontPrivate::load(QFont::Script) + 1027
> > > > 2 qt-mt 0xb204bac3 QFont::exactMatch() const + 53
> > >
> > >I got a very similar crash when initially trying to get MythFrontend
> > >running on Mac OS X x86. The resolution to that was to upgrade to a
> > >newer version of Qt (3.3.6 at that point) which presumably had been
> > >updated to be x86 aware.
> > >
> > >Looking at the method name, qt_macFamilyName, it might be trying to
> > >figure out what type of Mac it's running on, to adjust some
> > >parameters. It's not gonna know about AppleTV.. could take some
> > >hacking of Qt, to equate AppleTV to Mac OS X x86.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I have been hesitating picking up an AppleTV, because I don't think it
> > >will be able to handle HD. But, for DVD playback, and SD playback (or
> > >transcoded HD) it could still be useful. Maybe I'll grab one when I
> > >return the UPnP-HD device I was trying out.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
> > > > eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0xb2050892 ecx: 0x00000000 edx: 0x0063ca80
> > > > edi: 0xbfffeedc esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xbfffeef8 esp: 0xbfffeec0
> > > > ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010286 eip: 0xb2050911 cs: 0x00000017
> > > > ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
> > > >
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> > > > (???)
> >
> >/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
> > > > 0x92fe0000 - 0x92fecfff com.apple.opengl
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>/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL
> > > > 0x9307c000 - 0x9307cfff com.apple.Cocoa 6.4
> > > > (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
> > > > 0x9307e000 - 0x93735fff com.apple.AppKit 6.4.8
> > > > (824.42)
> > >/System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
> > > > 0x93ab6000 - 0x93b2ffff com.apple.CoreData
> > > > 90
> > >/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData
> > > > 0x93b68000 - 0x93c20fff com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox
> > > > 1.4.4
> >
> >/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
> > > > 0x93c63000 - 0x93c63fff com.apple.audio.units.AudioUnit
> > > > 1.4.3
> > >/System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit
> > > > 0x93c65000 - 0x93e3bfff com.apple.QuartzCore
> > > > 1.4.11
> > >/System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore
> > > > 0x93e8e000 - 0x93ecffff libsqlite3.0.dylib
> > >/usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib
> > > > 0x93ed7000 - 0x93f11fff libGLImage.dylib
> > > >
> >
> >/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dylib
> > > > 0x9412a000 - 0x943e3fff com.apple.QuickTime
> > > > 7.1.5
> > >/System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime
> > > > 0x964a6000 - 0x964abfff com.apple.agl 2.5.9
> > > > (AGL-2.5.9)
>/System/Library/Frameworks/AGL.framework/Versions/A/AGL
> > > > 0x9658e000 - 0x965a7fff com.apple.AppleVAFramework
> > > > 3.3.3
> > >/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AppleVA.framework/Versions/A/AppleVA
> > > > 0x96769000 - 0x96769fff DVD
> > > >
>/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DVD.framework/Versions/A/DVD
> > > > 0xb2000000 - 0xb24f2fff qt-mt
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/qt-mt.framework/Versions/A/qt-mt
> > > > 0xc2000000 - 0xc2005fff mythavutil
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythavutil.framework/Versions/A/mythavutil
> > > > 0xc3000000 - 0xc3313fff mythavcodec
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythavcodec.framework/Versions/A/mythavcodec
> > > > 0xc4000000 - 0xc406efff mythavformat
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythavformat.framework/Versions/A/mythavformat
> > > > 0xc6000000 - 0xc61c1fff myth
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/myth.framework/Versions/A/myth
> > > > 0xc9000000 - 0xc9533fff mythtv
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythtv.framework/Versions/A/mythtv
> > > > 0xcc000000 - 0xcc066fff mythui
> > > >
> >
> >/Applications/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Frameworks/mythui.framework/Versions/A/mythui
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Neil
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