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pham_thomas at hotmail

May 17, 2006, 9:20 AM

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MythTV on low cost embedded hardware

I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV frontend box.
Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV frontend on their Nexperia
PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.

http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf

Does anyone know of other low cost embedded implementations of MythTV?

Thanks.

Tom Pham


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mdrons at yahoo

May 17, 2006, 11:13 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Take a look at MediaMVP.

http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main

-Mike

--- Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV
> frontend box.
> Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV
> frontend on their Nexperia
> PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.
>
>
http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf
>
> Does anyone know of other low cost embedded
> implementations of MythTV?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom Pham
>
>
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> mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org
>
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nicolas.mainil at gmail

May 17, 2006, 12:33 PM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

On 5/17/06, Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV frontend box.
> Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV frontend on their Nexperia
> PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.
>
> http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf
>

Really interesting presentation, I learned a lot of funny things while
reading it:
- mythtv is built on top of gtk+
- open-source software is not written for cross-compilation

> Does anyone know of other low cost embedded implementations of MythTV?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tom Pham
>
>
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pham_thomas at hotmail

May 17, 2006, 11:41 PM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Thank you Mike.

MediaMVP solution looks interesting. I need to check it out.

Is it based on the same Conexant chip (as in the PVR family) plus the
PowerPC?
Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I remembered that IBM used to make STB
devices that were based on the PowerPC with built-in MPEG2 decoder hardware.

With the newer more powerful STB devices like Philips Nexperia, we should be
able to build a complete embedded MythTV PVR like the Tivo. Wouldn't that be
cool!!


Tom



>From: Michael Drons <mdrons[at]yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: mdrons[at]yahoo.com, Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv] MythTV on low cost embedded hardware
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Take a look at MediaMVP.
>
>http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main
>
>-Mike
>
>--- Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV
> > frontend box.
> > Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV
> > frontend on their Nexperia
> > PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.
> >
> >
>http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf
> >
> > Does anyone know of other low cost embedded
> > implementations of MythTV?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tom Pham
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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florinbaiduc at gmail

May 18, 2006, 12:51 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

On 5/18/06, Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Mike.
>
> MediaMVP solution looks interesting. I need to check it out.
>
> Is it based on the same Conexant chip (as in the PVR family) plus the
> PowerPC?
> Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I remembered that IBM used to make STB
> devices that were based on the PowerPC with built-in MPEG2 decoder hardware.
>
> With the newer more powerful STB devices like Philips Nexperia, we should be
> able to build a complete embedded MythTV PVR like the Tivo. Wouldn't that be
> cool!!
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> >From: Michael Drons <mdrons[at]yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: mdrons[at]yahoo.com, Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> >To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mythtv] MythTV on low cost embedded hardware
> >Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:13:05 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Take a look at MediaMVP.
> >
> >http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/idx.php?pg=main
> >
> >-Mike
> >
> >--- Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV
> > > frontend box.
> > > Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV
> > > frontend on their Nexperia
> > > PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.
> > >
> > >
> >http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of other low cost embedded
> > > implementations of MythTV?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Tom Pham
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org
> > >
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> > >
> >
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This really sounds like a cool project.. Let me have a look :) !
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greg at phaze

May 18, 2006, 7:49 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

> Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I remembered that IBM used to make STB
> devices that were based on the PowerPC with built-in MPEG2 decoder hardware.

It's based on an ibm stb25xxx PPC chip + mpeg2 decoder .

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pham_thomas at hotmail

May 18, 2006, 9:10 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Thank you Greg.

I used the IBM stb25xxx device before.
As I recall, the device also has a built-in IDE hard disk interface.
The Hauppauge MediaMVP just did not make use of it probably for cost reason.
Hmmm. I wonder if the device has enough horse power and memory space to
support both frontend and backend.
I will need to check it out.


Tom


>From: Greg Estabrooks <greg[at]phaze.org>
>Reply-To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv] MythTV on low cost embedded hardware
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:49:56 -0300
>
> > Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I remembered that IBM used to make
>STB
> > devices that were based on the PowerPC with built-in MPEG2 decoder
>hardware.
>
> It's based on an ibm stb25xxx PPC chip + mpeg2 decoder .
>
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mdrons at yahoo

May 18, 2006, 9:37 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

more hardware info.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103474&atid=634923&func=detail&aid=1108839

I dont believe the device has a encoder on it. It can
only decode mpeg2 streams.

But it makes a great frontend, has not fans and is
small. Support is slowing moving forward, but it
seems only a few people are working on mythtv
support. The device is also supports replaytv and
slim server.

-Mike

--- Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Greg.
>
> I used the IBM stb25xxx device before.
> As I recall, the device also has a built-in IDE hard
> disk interface.
> The Hauppauge MediaMVP just did not make use of it
> probably for cost reason.
> Hmmm. I wonder if the device has enough horse power
> and memory space to
> support both frontend and backend.
> I will need to check it out.
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> >From: Greg Estabrooks <greg[at]phaze.org>
> >Reply-To: Development of mythtv
> <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> >To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
> >Subject: Re: [mythtv] MythTV on low cost embedded
> hardware
> >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:49:56 -0300
> >
> > > Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I
> remembered that IBM used to make
> >STB
> > > devices that were based on the PowerPC with
> built-in MPEG2 decoder
> >hardware.
> >
> > It's based on an ibm stb25xxx PPC chip + mpeg2
> decoder .
> >
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stuart at xnet

May 12, 2007, 8:14 PM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Hi Michael (Tom & Greg)...

Michael Drons wrote:
> more hardware info.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103474&atid=634923&func=detail&aid=1108839
>
> I dont believe the device has a encoder on it. It can
> only decode mpeg2 streams.
>
> But it makes a great frontend, has not fans and is
> small. Support is slowing moving forward, but it
> seems only a few people are working on mythtv
> support. The device is also supports replaytv and
> slim server.
>
> -Mike
>
> --- Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Greg.
>>
>> I used the IBM stb25xxx device before.
>> As I recall, the device also has a built-in IDE hard
>> disk interface.
>> The Hauppauge MediaMVP just did not make use of it
>> probably for cost reason.
>> Hmmm. I wonder if the device has enough horse power
>> and memory space to
>> support both frontend and backend.
>> I will need to check it out.
>>
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>> From: Greg Estabrooks <greg[at]phaze.org>
>>> Reply-To: Development of mythtv
>> <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>>> To: Development of mythtv <mythtv-dev[at]mythtv.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [mythtv] MythTV on low cost embedded
>> hardware
>>> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:49:56 -0300
>>>
>>>> Or is it based on a PowerPC STB chip. I
>> remembered that IBM used to make
>>> STB
>>>> devices that were based on the PowerPC with
>> built-in MPEG2 decoder
>>> hardware.
>>>
>>> It's based on an ibm stb25xxx PPC chip + mpeg2
>> decoder .

I doubt there is enough power for a real Mythtv front end on a MediaMVP.

We are having enough problems getting it all to fit now (MythTV,
ReplayTV, Slimserver-client, NFS file browser, JPEG decoding, FLAC
decoding, OGG decoding, Internet Radio, Web Server, VLC-client,
VNC-client, support for IEE VFDs (sorry no ORBITAL VFD support, they are
expensive)...). So much so that some are working on a modular approach
to loading applications on an as-needed bases.

Development has been slow lately as the principles players concentrate
on the modular version. I think more people testing the code and
providing feed back will help.

For me, however, the main blocker for the mvpmc.org / MythTV project is
the lack of an intelligent MythTV back end that can transcode videos as
needed. Right now, my MythTV box records from NTSC and ATSC sources.
The NTSC will play back just fine. However the ATSC will not. Most of
the recordings require too much band width at the client end. And all
ATSC / MythTV recordings contain an audio track that we (mvpmc.org
project) can not keep in sync with the video.

If MythTV could detect the type of client or the limitations of the
client and act accordingly (i.e. transcode the video in the back end
machine), it would make the mvpmc.org project a solid solution for most
if not all MythTV low cost / thin client needs.**

** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
"most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
that has an open source project ported to it.





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wimfokkens at planet

May 13, 2007, 2:02 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
> that has an open source project ported to it.

Is this one an option?
http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
17960635B02

It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4

Maximum flexibility
Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome

And the source code is available.
http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper


ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip

And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
id=836


Wim


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steve.p.daniels at googlemail

May 13, 2007, 2:33 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Wim Fokkens wrote:
>> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
>> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
>> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
>> that has an open source project ported to it.
>
> Is this one an option?
> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
> 2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
> 17960635B02
>
> It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4
>
> Maximum flexibility
> Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
> formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
> Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
> Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
> encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome
>
> And the source code is available.
> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
> 2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
>
>
> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip
>
> And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
> http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
> id=836
>
>
> Wim
>


WOW

This platform looks amazing!!!

Check out this bad boy:

http://dev.kiss-technology.com/

This devices allows you to point it to a "My KML" page.

KML is a form of XML that the KiSS media player understands. It looks
like this little cheap device could be VERY powerful, even without
modifying it's firmware/os etc.

Check it out,

Steve Daniels
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ignasiak at gmail

May 13, 2007, 9:41 AM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

On 5/17/06, Thomas Pham <pham_thomas[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> I am interested in building a low cost non-PC MythTV frontend box.
> Recently, I saw that Philips implemented MythTV frontend on their Nexperia
> PNX8550 chip which is a STB chip.
>
> http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006Presentations?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=MythTVonNexperia-CELF-05.pdf
>
> Does anyone know of other low cost embedded implementations of MythTV?
>

That's an interesting presentation. It sounds like they use MythTV
internally, as a test platform. Do they have that code and/or the
hardware platform accessible externally? It said in slide 32, that
the device "Can play MPEG2-HD streams".

I've been looking into the UPnP HD devices, and while they show a lot
of potential, their video playback controls (FF/REW, bookmark, skip
commercials) are too limited to be useful yet.

The Roku HD-1000 was an interesting option.. an open Linux platform
with third party apps, including the MythRoku frontend software.
Unfortunately, that device was discontinued long ago. Maybe one of
the KISS / Linksys devices that others mentioned could be used.
Until I can find a good embedded option, I'll stick with my Mac Mini
with the OSX frontend.
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stuart at xnet

May 13, 2007, 2:38 PM

Post #13 of 16 (3324 views)
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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Wim Fokkens wrote:
>> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
>> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
>> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
>> that has an open source project ported to it.
>
> Is this one an option?
> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
> 2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
> 17960635B02

This looks like another Syabas / Sigma Designs player.

> It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4
>
> Maximum flexibility
> Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
> formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
> Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
> Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
> encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome
>
> And the source code is available.
> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
> 2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip
>
> And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
> http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
> id=836

Yes, but has anyone actually created an image from these SDKs that ran
the box. So far, I have only heard about enough code provided by
vendors of these Syabas / Sigma Design players to comply with (or come
close to complying with) the GPL. Let us know if you have heard of any
project that has done otherwise!


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steve.p.daniels at googlemail

May 13, 2007, 3:04 PM

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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

stuart wrote:
>
> Wim Fokkens wrote:
>>> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
>>> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
>>> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
>>> that has an open source project ported to it.
>> Is this one an option?
>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
>> 2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
>> 17960635B02
>
> This looks like another Syabas / Sigma Designs player.
>
>> It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4
>>
>> Maximum flexibility
>> Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
>> formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
>> Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
>> Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
>> encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome
>>
>> And the source code is available.
>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
>> 2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
>
>> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip
>>
>> And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
>> http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
>> id=836
>
> Yes, but has anyone actually created an image from these SDKs that ran
> the box. So far, I have only heard about enough code provided by
> vendors of these Syabas / Sigma Design players to comply with (or come
> close to complying with) the GPL. Let us know if you have heard of any
> project that has done otherwise!
>

Hi Stuart,

Using KML you might not have to actually run mythfrontend on it.. see my
last post on this topic :-)

Steve Daniels

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May 13, 2007, 5:08 PM

Post #15 of 16 (3332 views)
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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

Hi Steve...

Steve Daniels wrote:
> stuart wrote:
>> Wim Fokkens wrote:
>>>> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
>>>> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
>>>> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
>>>> that has an open source project ported to it.
>>> Is this one an option?
>>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
>>> 2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
>>> 17960635B02
>> This looks like another Syabas / Sigma Designs player.
>>
>>> It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4
>>>
>>> Maximum flexibility
>>> Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
>>> formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
>>> Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
>>> Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
>>> encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome
>>>
>>> And the source code is available.
>>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
>>> 2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
>>> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip
>>>
>>> And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
>>> http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
>>> id=836
>> Yes, but has anyone actually created an image from these SDKs that ran
>> the box. So far, I have only heard about enough code provided by
>> vendors of these Syabas / Sigma Design players to comply with (or come
>> close to complying with) the GPL. Let us know if you have heard of any
>> project that has done otherwise!
>>
>
> Hi Stuart,
>
> Using KML you might not have to actually run mythfrontend on it.. see my
> last post on this topic :-)
>
> Steve Daniels
>
What Steve was referring to above:
---
KML is a form of XML that the KiSS media player understands. It looks
like this little cheap device could be VERY powerful, even without
modifying it's firmware/os etc.
---

Steve, can you explain to us what KML is? I am thinking that you may be
referring to the HTML extensions that are used by WizD and Swisscenter
to offer up custom menus to most if not all Saybas / Sigma Designs based
clients.

I haven't looked into this, but I think the problem with this is that
most interactions with the server is off of web like pages. So, 30
second skip, for example, is difficult if not impossible to implement.


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May 14, 2007, 12:21 PM

Post #16 of 16 (3298 views)
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Re: MythTV on low cost embedded hardware [In reply to]

stuart wrote:
> Hi Steve...
>
> Steve Daniels wrote:
>> stuart wrote:
>>> Wim Fokkens wrote:
>>>>> ** Note, the MediaMVP is not a HD capable box (that's why I said
>>>>> "most"). It only has Composit & S-Video output. However, most consider
>>>>> the S-Video output as being good. I don't know of any HD capable box
>>>>> that has an open source project ported to it.
>>>> Is this one an option?
>>>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=UK%
>>>> 2FLayout&cid=1150490629179&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=29
>>>> 17960635B02
>>> This looks like another Syabas / Sigma Designs player.
>>>
>>>> It can decode almost everything including HD mpeg4
>>>>
>>>> Maximum flexibility
>>>> Play absolutely everything in your library. KiSS DP-600 and play all media
>>>> formats including DVDs, CDs, Windows Media 9, Nero Digital, DivX High
>>>> Definition, MPEG-1,2,4, XviD, MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Jpeg and PNG Picture files.
>>>> Featuring playback for Nero Digital Format, we have included all of your
>>>> encoding software: Nero ShowTime 2-CE, Recode 2-CE and MediaHome
>>>>
>>>> And the source code is available.
>>>> http://www-uk.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=UK%
>>>> 2FLayout&cid=1129319214597&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
>>>> ftp://ftp.linksys.com/opensourcecode/KiSS/KiSS_GPL.zip
>>>>
>>>> And I think for a HD capable player this one is pretty cheap.
>>>> http://www.divxplayer.nl/2006/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=11&products_
>>>> id=836
>>> Yes, but has anyone actually created an image from these SDKs that ran
>>> the box. So far, I have only heard about enough code provided by
>>> vendors of these Syabas / Sigma Design players to comply with (or come
>>> close to complying with) the GPL. Let us know if you have heard of any
>>> project that has done otherwise!
>>>
>> Hi Stuart,
>>
>> Using KML you might not have to actually run mythfrontend on it.. see my
>> last post on this topic :-)
>>
>> Steve Daniels
>>
> What Steve was referring to above:
> ---
> KML is a form of XML that the KiSS media player understands. It looks
> like this little cheap device could be VERY powerful, even without
> modifying it's firmware/os etc.
> ---
>
> Steve, can you explain to us what KML is? I am thinking that you may be
> referring to the HTML extensions that are used by WizD and Swisscenter
> to offer up custom menus to most if not all Saybas / Sigma Designs based
> clients.
>
> I haven't looked into this, but I think the problem with this is that
> most interactions with the server is off of web like pages. So, 30
> second skip, for example, is difficult if not impossible to implement.
>

I've looked further into it, and things like 30 second skip are possible
- if it's the right file format - can't remember which off of the top of
my head.

There are games, and all sorts made in KML - Video on Demand systems,
Web Radio. It's just a matter of playing with some Google queries to
bring all the information up to the top ;-)

Steve (Should be revising, final, final exam tomorrow) Daniels

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