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joddo at apixels

Nov 16, 2002, 12:32 PM

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Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA

Hi All--

I decided to ditch RedHat and install Mandrake9 in an attempt to get myth
to work. I followed the HOW-TO for Mandrake in the cvs/docs and I've
gotten pretty far. Here's the deal:

I can run xwatv WITH sound. I can record sound on line-in via one of the
sound recording apps and it plays back fine.

However, when I launch 'mythtv' the system reboots! It doesn't just hang
it actually restarts the machine. Guess that this isn't proper behavior
for MythTV <grin> I'm looking for a little help from others using
Mandrake9.

First, I thought Mandrake9 uses ALSA be default. Is this correct? How
can I tell if I'm _actually_ using ALSA? Do I need to set up the proper
/dev/dsp or /dev/audio or /dev/snd? Does Mandrake do this automatically?
I think Mandrake9 might be using devfs...does anyone know if this is true,
and will it cause problems?

Any other helpful advice would be great.

Thanks!

rkulagowski at thrupoint

Nov 16, 2002, 1:20 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

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> How can I tell if I'm _actually_ using ALSA?

Look in /var/log/messages for alsa.

It should also be in your /etc/rc.d/rc5.d On mine it's S17alsa

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bertusmedia at hotmail

Nov 16, 2002, 4:54 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

When the system is booting Mandrake shows if it is using Alsa.

But you need 0.9 (It is somewhere in the docs) and Mandrake I don't think it
comes with 0.9...Anyway I had to download and compile Alsa (I used the lates
RC version) and then I had to recompile Mandrakes Kernel (It would hang up
until I recompiled the kernel too).

Afterwards it stared working very nice.

Good Luck!

>From: "Robert Kulagowski" <rkulagowski [at] thrupoint>
>Reply-To: mythtv-dev [at] snowman
>To: <mythtv-dev [at] snowman>
>Subject: RE: [mythtv] Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 14:20:08 -0600
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>Look in /var/log/messages for alsa.
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>It should also be in your /etc/rc.d/rc5.d On mine it's S17alsa
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rkulagowski at thrupoint

Nov 16, 2002, 5:18 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

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> But you need 0.9 (It is somewhere in the docs) and Mandrake I
> don't think it comes with 0.9...

Mandrake 9.0 comes with ALSA 0.9.0rc2

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joddo at apixels

Nov 16, 2002, 5:18 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

> When the system is booting Mandrake shows if it is using Alsa.
>
> But you need 0.9 (It is somewhere in the docs) and Mandrake I don't
> think it comes with 0.9...Anyway I had to download and compile Alsa (I
> used the lates RC version) and then I had to recompile Mandrakes Kernel
> (It would hang up until I recompiled the kernel too).
>
Why did you have to recompile the kernel? I thought that the alsa was a
module that was called. What a pain.

> Afterwards it stared working very nice.
>
Yeah, so far, that's Myth's biggest downfall...the fact that the audio is
such a pain to get working...and it won't work until you get the audio
working.

help at pdscc

Nov 16, 2002, 7:11 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

Well you could try MDK8.2, it does not have issues with audio...

On 16 Nov 2002 at 16:18, Jeremy Oddo wrote:
> Yeah, so far, that's Myth's biggest downfall...the fact that the audio is such
> a pain to get working...and it won't work until you get the audio working.

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Nov 16, 2002, 7:22 PM

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Re: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

On Saturday 16 November 2002 07:11 pm, Harondel J. Sibble wrote:
> Well you could try MDK8.2, it does not have issues with audio...
>
> On 16 Nov 2002 at 16:18, Jeremy Oddo wrote:
> > Yeah, so far, that's Myth's biggest downfall...the fact that the audio is
> > such a pain to get working...and it won't work until you get the audio
> > working.

Hmm. I'm using MDK 9 on a K7S5A mobo with the onboard audio with no problems
whatsoever. I was using it under 8.2 with an es1370 sound card or the
onboard audio and had no problems either.

Randy

rkulagowski at thrupoint

Nov 16, 2002, 7:36 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

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> Why did you have to recompile the kernel? I thought that the
> alsa was a module that was called. What a pain.

I didn't need to recompile the kernel - ALSA worked immediately,
since it's the default sounds system for Mandrake 9.0.

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bertusmedia at hotmail

Nov 16, 2002, 11:16 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

I was just saying what I did to make it work. And because it seams he has
the same problem...as I did I stated what I had to do to make work.

But hey, I'm really happy that it worked for you the first shot! :-P

Roberto

>From: "Robert Kulagowski" <rkulagowski [at] thrupoint>
>Reply-To: mythtv-dev [at] snowman
>To: <mythtv-dev [at] snowman>
>Subject: RE: [mythtv] Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA
>Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:36:58 -0600
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> > Why did you have to recompile the kernel? I thought that the
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>
>I didn't need to recompile the kernel - ALSA worked immediately,
>since it's the default sounds system for Mandrake 9.0.
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rkulagowski at thrupoint

Nov 17, 2002, 8:24 AM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

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> I was just saying what I did to make it work. And because it
> seams he has
> the same problem...as I did I stated what I had to do to make work.
>
> But hey, I'm really happy that it worked for you the first shot!
> :-P

No, I understand. Just wanted to make sure that we start with the
simpler things first. I'm hoping that we get a resolution on this
and determine if this is a one-off problem, or a general case. If
it's a general case then I can get it into the docs. If it's
one-off, then at least that's one more happy customer.

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joddo at apixels

Nov 17, 2002, 10:39 AM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA -- More Detailed [In reply to]

OK, apparently I've turned into a test case :)

Let me give you a little details on my system and maybe that will shed
some light:

1. I've got an Athlon 1700+ XP machine with built-in sound/video/nic.

2. ALSA is using the via82cxxx_audio module.

3. I only have 3 lines in my /etc/modules.conf file:
probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
alias eth0 8139too
alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio

4. Under "K->Configuration->KDE->Sound->Sound Server" the "Start aRts
soundserver on KDE startup" is UNCHECKED. Does this need to be checked?
If I turn it on, I can then go to the "Sound I/O" tab and select "Advanced
Linux Sound Architecture". However, if I choose that, I get a error
telling me that "device: default" couldn't be opened for playback.

5. xawtv works fine.

6. If I type '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S17alsa stop' it tells me that "ALSA driver
isn't running." So I type '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S17alsa start' to start it up.

7. When I installed Mandrake 9.0 I installed "everything under the sun"
so that I would make sure that I had all the libs and alsa stuff. Could I
have installed a few things that are conflicting with ALSA?

8. 'mythfrontend' works fine (except the "watch TV" option). If I run
'muthtv' my system will reboot itself instantly even if I use "failsafe"
as the windows manager.

9. Is there anything else that would be helpful here? What other info
can I provide to help debug the problem?

Thanks for everyone's help!

Jeremy

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>> I was just saying what I did to make it work. And because it
>> seams he has
>> the same problem...as I did I stated what I had to do to make work.
>>
>> But hey, I'm really happy that it worked for you the first shot! :-P
>>
>
> No, I understand. Just wanted to make sure that we start with the
> simpler things first. I'm hoping that we get a resolution on this and
> determine if this is a one-off problem, or a general case. If it's a
> general case then I can get it into the docs. If it's
> one-off, then at least that's one more happy customer.
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ijr at po

Nov 17, 2002, 11:15 AM

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Re: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA [In reply to]

On Sunday 17 November 2002 10:24 am, Robert Kulagowski wrote:
> No, I understand. Just wanted to make sure that we start with the
> simpler things first. I'm hoping that we get a resolution on this
> and determine if this is a one-off problem, or a general case. If
> it's a general case then I can get it into the docs. If it's
> one-off, then at least that's one more happy customer.

It's pretty much a one-off problem, having to do with bad hardware and/or bad
drivers.

Isaac

bertusmedia at hotmail

Nov 17, 2002, 3:03 PM

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RE: Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA -- More Detailed [In reply to]

Have you installed the alsa utils? I so...try the alsamixer...I had to play
with a couple of channels that were turned off that only were visible with
the alsamixer.

I hope that helps...(by the way you might want to try to plugg it to the
Mic...just for the heck of it.)

Roberto

>From: "Jeremy Oddo" <joddo [at] apixels>
>Reply-To: mythtv-dev [at] snowman
>To: <mythtv-dev [at] snowman>
>Subject: RE: [mythtv] Mandrake 9 -- Help with ALSA -- More Detailed
>Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 09:39:59 -0800 (PST)
>
>OK, apparently I've turned into a test case :)
>
>Let me give you a little details on my system and maybe that will shed
>some light:
>
>1. I've got an Athlon 1700+ XP machine with built-in sound/video/nic.
>
>2. ALSA is using the via82cxxx_audio module.
>
>3. I only have 3 lines in my /etc/modules.conf file:
> probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
> alias eth0 8139too
> alias sound-slot-0 via82cxxx_audio
>
>4. Under "K->Configuration->KDE->Sound->Sound Server" the "Start aRts
>soundserver on KDE startup" is UNCHECKED. Does this need to be checked?
>If I turn it on, I can then go to the "Sound I/O" tab and select "Advanced
>Linux Sound Architecture". However, if I choose that, I get a error
>telling me that "device: default" couldn't be opened for playback.
>
>5. xawtv works fine.
>
>6. If I type '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S17alsa stop' it tells me that "ALSA driver
>isn't running." So I type '/etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S17alsa start' to start it up.
>
>7. When I installed Mandrake 9.0 I installed "everything under the sun"
>so that I would make sure that I had all the libs and alsa stuff. Could I
>have installed a few things that are conflicting with ALSA?
>
>8. 'mythfrontend' works fine (except the "watch TV" option). If I run
>'muthtv' my system will reboot itself instantly even if I use "failsafe"
>as the windows manager.
>
>9. Is there anything else that would be helpful here? What other info
>can I provide to help debug the problem?
>
>Thanks for everyone's help!
>
>Jeremy
>
>
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> >> I was just saying what I did to make it work. And because it
> >> seams he has
> >> the same problem...as I did I stated what I had to do to make work.
> >>
> >> But hey, I'm really happy that it worked for you the first shot! :-P
> >>
> >
> > No, I understand. Just wanted to make sure that we start with the
> > simpler things first. I'm hoping that we get a resolution on this and
> > determine if this is a one-off problem, or a general case. If it's a
> > general case then I can get it into the docs. If it's
> > one-off, then at least that's one more happy customer.
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