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Feb 16, 2011, 1:58 PM

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Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Type: Bug
Status: new | Report
Milestone: unknown | Priority: minor
Version: 0.24-fixes | Component: MythTV
Keywords: | - General
| Severity: medium
| Ticket locked: 0
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When watching Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels (Canal First, Canal Hits,
Canal Drama etc.) the teletext subtitles are partly skipped or shown so
quickly that it's hard to read them.

I've taken a short example from one of the channels and it's located here:
http://www.kennelpoika.net/myth/House.mpg (26Mb)

Also, the exact subtitles taken with Project X and included with my
english translation and explanation what is shown and what is skipped can
be found from here:
http://www.kennelpoika.net/myth/house_dialogs_explained.txt

Interestingly, this problem is only with the movie channels. For example
Star and BBC channels don't have this problem even though they are from
the same service provider.
The transmission is DVB-S.

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Feb 16, 2011, 5:13 PM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: markk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | accepted
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by markk):

* owner: => markk
* status: new => accepted


Comment:

Jari - for clarity, can you confirm you are using the Finnish subtitle
track? and that your locale is set to Finland - and hence it defaults to
the Finnish track when subtitles are enabled.

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Feb 17, 2011, 1:51 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: markk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | accepted
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Comment (by Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…>):

Yes, that is the case.

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Feb 17, 2011, 7:02 PM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: markk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | accepted
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Comment (by markk):

Jari - I've spent some time looking at this and I'm no closer to finding a
fix. Can you confirm those subtitles work as expected when using a set top
box or television?

Notes:

For a given magazine, a page starts with a page header, followed by a
number of data packets and is considered complete when another page header
for the same magazine is received.

For the above clip, the Finnish subtitles are on magazine 6 and by and
large there is only one page in that magazine (1689). Hence that magazine
is only receiving page headers for that one page. For certain subs, a page
header is received and is followed almost immediately by a data (subtitle)
packet. The next page header is then not received for 3-4 seconds, at
which point that subtitle is either then displayed only briefly or
immediately replaced by the next.

It looks like those subs should be displayed almost as they are received
but they do not match the transmission model of header->packet->header.
There are additional flags that we do not appear to do anything with -
which may be the problem - or (less likely), the demuxer is presenting
those packets out of order; which would explain the timing problem.

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Feb 17, 2011, 11:49 PM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: markk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | accepted
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Comment (by Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…>):

Yes, they work perfectly with VDR and Canal+' own box. I'd of course like
to stick with MythTV :)

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Feb 2, 2012, 12:51 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner:
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | assigned
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by markk):

* owner: markk =>
* status: accepted => assigned


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Feb 2, 2012, 7:30 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: danielk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | assigned
Component: MythTV - General | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by danielk):

* owner: => danielk


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Feb 19, 2012, 8:24 PM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner: danielk
Type: Bug Report | Status:
Priority: minor | assigned
Component: MythTV - Captions | Milestone: unknown
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by stichnot):

* component: MythTV - General => MythTV - Captions


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Mar 3, 2012, 9:34 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner:
Type: Bug Report - General | stichnot
Priority: minor | Status:
Component: MythTV - Captions | assigned
Severity: medium | Milestone: 0.25
Keywords: | Version:
| 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by stuartm):

* owner: danielk => stichnot
* type: Bug Report => Bug Report - General
* milestone: unknown => 0.25


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Mar 5, 2012, 11:34 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner:
Type: Bug Report - General | stichnot
Priority: minor | Status:
Component: MythTV - Captions | accepted
Severity: medium | Milestone: 0.26
Keywords: | Version:
| 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by stichnot):

* status: assigned => accepted
* milestone: 0.25 => 0.26


Comment:

Jari,

I can reproduce the behavior on your test clip in Master. Can you confirm
whether recent Canal+ broadcasts still have this problem? (in either 0.24
or Master)

I'm changing the milestone to 0.26 based on the timing of the 0.25
release, my low level of teletext experience, and of course the fact that
Mark looked at it and didn't fix it.

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Jul 28, 2012, 7:00 AM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
-------------------------------------------------+-------------------------
Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner:
Type: Bug Report - General | stichnot
Priority: minor | Status:
Component: MythTV - Captions | accepted
Severity: medium | Milestone: 0.27
Keywords: | Version:
| 0.24-fixes
| Resolution:
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by stichnot):

* milestone: 0.26 => 0.27


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Mar 6, 2013, 1:17 PM

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Re: Ticket #9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie channels [In reply to]

#9593: Teletext subtitles not working properly for Scandinavian Canal+ movie
channels
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Reporter: Jari Nevalainen <jari.nevalainen@…> | Owner:
Type: Bug Report - General | stichnot
Priority: minor | Status: closed
Component: MythTV - Captions | Milestone: 0.27
Severity: medium | Version:
Keywords: | 0.24-fixes
| Resolution: Won't
| Fix
| Ticket locked: 0
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Changes (by stichnot):

* status: accepted => closed
* resolution: => Won't Fix


Comment:

Please reopen, or open a new ticket, if this continues to be a problem.
Otherwise I am very unlikely to look into this more.

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