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Edward.Szekeres at PERKINELMER

Apr 18, 2011, 8:30 AM

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Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3]

Hello,

I am attempting to get a clean up-to-date install Apache with static
linked mod_perl (using current stable releases for Apache (2.2.17) and
mod_perl (2.0.5) from .tar.gz files download from respective
repositories) but am at a frustrating dead end. I am looking for any
suggestions as I have an immediate need for this.

Here are the steps I have taken (multiple times):

1) configured a new RHEL 5 32 bit virtual machine with 2 CPUs and
4G RAM using "software development" template and no additional software
(no httpd), default PERL install of 5.8.8...

2) all RHEL updates as of 4/17 applied

3) download source for PERL 5.12.3, and installed

a. # ./Configure -des -Uusethreads

b. make, make test, make install (no errors)

4) installed from CPAN "Bundle::Apache2" (tried both with and
without this step, # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 -MCPAN -e "install
Bundle::Apache2")

5) though was using the official .tar.gz distribution of Apache, I
did run ./buildconf in the Apache source directory for consistency (no
errors)

6) executed the mod_perl config in the mod_perl source directory:
# /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 Makefile.PL MP_USE_STATIC=1
MP_AP_PREFIX=/root/httpd-2.2.17 MP_AP_CONFIGURE="-with-mpm=prefork"

and this is always the result at the end, what is interesting is that in
all the previous config steps, there don't seem to be any issues in
finding and working with apr related stuff....

Configuring Apache/2.2.17 mod_perl/2.0.5 Perl/v5.12.3

Checking if your kit is complete...

Looks good

Use of uninitialized value $v in substitution (s///) at
lib/Apache2/Build.pm line 1330.

[ error] Can't find apr include/ directory,

[ error] use MP_APR_CONFIG=/path/to/apr-config

(END)

Thinking there was maybe a conflict with RHEL apr I did try running #
yum remove apr* to remove RHEL related packages....

repeated the whole process same result....same results with Perl 5.8.8

I really can't believe that virgin stable release TARs on a pretty much
standard RHEL 5 installs would be this difficult to get to work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated....

Edward S. Szekeres, Jr., Ph.D. | Director of Bioinformatics

PerkinElmer DNA Sequencing and Analysis Services
PerkinElmer | For the Better

edward.szekeres [at] perkinelmer
<mailto:edward.szekeres [at] perkinelmer?subject=Contact%20Request>

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fred at redhotpenguin

Apr 18, 2011, 9:33 AM

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Re: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3] [In reply to]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Szekeres, Edward
<Edward.Szekeres [at] perkinelmer> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am attempting to get a clean up-to-date install Apache with static linked
> mod_perl (using current stable releases for Apache (2.2.17)

I didn't see the arguments you used to compile apache in here. But
would suggest using --with-included-apr as a build option.

A couple other questions:

1) Do you specifically need threads? If not, it is generally advised
to compile Perl without them.

2) Do you need mod_perl2 statically compiled? Most users choose to
compile it as a shared object, which is widely tested.

> and mod_perl
> (2.0.5) from .tar.gz files download from respective repositories) but am at
> a frustrating dead end. I am looking for any suggestions as I have an
> immediate need for this.
>
>
>
> Here are the steps I have taken (multiple times):
>
> 1)      configured a new RHEL 5 32 bit virtual machine with 2 CPUs and 4G
> RAM using “software development” template and no additional software (no
> httpd), default PERL install of 5.8.8…
>
> 2)      all RHEL updates as of 4/17 applied
>
> 3)      download source for PERL 5.12.3, and installed
>
> a.       # ./Configure –des –Uusethreads
>
> b.      make, make test, make install (no errors)
>
> 4)      installed from CPAN “Bundle::Apache2” (tried both with and without
> this step, # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 -MCPAN -e "install Bundle::Apache2")
>
> 5)      though was using the official .tar.gz distribution of Apache, I did
> run ./buildconf in the Apache source directory for consistency (no errors)
>
> 6)      executed the mod_perl config in the mod_perl source directory:
> # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 Makefile.PL MP_USE_STATIC=1
> MP_AP_PREFIX=/root/httpd-2.2.17 MP_AP_CONFIGURE=”—with-mpm=prefork”
>
>
>
> and this is always the result at the end, what is interesting is that in all
> the previous config steps, there don’t seem to be any issues in finding and
> working with apr related stuff….
>
>
>
> Configuring Apache/2.2.17 mod_perl/2.0.5 Perl/v5.12.3
>
> Checking if your kit is complete...
>
> Looks good
>
> Use of uninitialized value $v in substitution (s///) at lib/Apache2/Build.pm
> line 1330.
>
> [ error] Can't find apr include/ directory,
>
> [ error] use MP_APR_CONFIG=/path/to/apr-config
>
> (END)
>
>
>
> Thinking there was maybe a conflict with RHEL apr I did try running # yum
> remove apr* to remove RHEL related packages….
>
>
>
> repeated the whole process same result….same results with Perl 5.8.8
>
>
>
> I really can’t believe that virgin stable release TARs on a pretty much
> standard RHEL 5 installs would be this difficult to get to work.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated….
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward S. Szekeres, Jr., Ph.D. | Director of Bioinformatics
>
> PerkinElmer DNA Sequencing and Analysis Services
> PerkinElmer | For the
> Better
>
> edward.szekeres [at] perkinelmer
>
> Phone: +1 203.433.3237   |   Fax: +1 203.481.0433   |   Mobile:   +1
> 203.738.9524
>
> 29 Business Park Drive, Branford, CT 06405 USA
>
> www.perkinelmer.com
>
>
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
> This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and proprietary to
> PerkinElmer, Inc. If you are not the intended recipient of this message,
> please inform the sender by replying to this email or sending a message to
> the sender and destroy the message and any attachments. Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Edward.Szekeres at PERKINELMER

Apr 18, 2011, 9:46 AM

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RE: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3] [In reply to]

Thanks for your reply....clarifications

1) Perl 5.12.3 was compiled without thread support as per the mod_perl 2.0 installation directions

2) I have tried adding the "--with-included-apr" option without luck

2) As per the mod_perl documentation for static I am not pre-compiling Apache but was allowing the mod_perl 2.0 process to handle that

3) I was trying to match a pre-existing configuration which was using Apache 1.3 with mod_perl 1.0 statically linked in. While it would be preferred to keep the configuration the same, I am not sure it is mandatory.

4) what is also interesting is if I repeat the mod_perl configuration command again, I do not get that "Can't find apr include/ directory" error, and the config proceeds fine, however the make just throws a bunch of errors which seem to be apr related...

Edward

-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Moyer [mailto:fred [at] redhotpenguin]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:33 PM
To: Szekeres, Edward
Cc: modperl [at] perl
Subject: Re: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Szekeres, Edward <Edward.Szekeres [at] perkinelmer> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am attempting to get a clean up-to-date install Apache with static
> linked mod_perl (using current stable releases for Apache (2.2.17)

I didn't see the arguments you used to compile apache in here. But would suggest using --with-included-apr as a build option.

A couple other questions:

1) Do you specifically need threads? If not, it is generally advised to compile Perl without them.

2) Do you need mod_perl2 statically compiled? Most users choose to compile it as a shared object, which is widely tested.

> and mod_perl
> (2.0.5) from .tar.gz files download from respective repositories) but
> am at a frustrating dead end. I am looking for any suggestions as I
> have an immediate need for this.
>
>
>
> Here are the steps I have taken (multiple times):
>
> 1)      configured a new RHEL 5 32 bit virtual machine with 2 CPUs and
> 4G RAM using "software development" template and no additional
> software (no httpd), default PERL install of 5.8.8...
>
> 2)      all RHEL updates as of 4/17 applied
>
> 3)      download source for PERL 5.12.3, and installed
>
> a.       # ./Configure -des -Uusethreads
>
> b.      make, make test, make install (no errors)
>
> 4)      installed from CPAN "Bundle::Apache2" (tried both with and
> without this step, # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 -MCPAN -e "install
> Bundle::Apache2")
>
> 5)      though was using the official .tar.gz distribution of Apache,
> I did run ./buildconf in the Apache source directory for consistency
> (no errors)
>
> 6)      executed the mod_perl config in the mod_perl source directory:
> # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 Makefile.PL MP_USE_STATIC=1
> MP_AP_PREFIX=/root/httpd-2.2.17 MP_AP_CONFIGURE="-with-mpm=prefork"
>
>
>
> and this is always the result at the end, what is interesting is that
> in all the previous config steps, there don't seem to be any issues in
> finding and working with apr related stuff....
>
>
>
> Configuring Apache/2.2.17 mod_perl/2.0.5 Perl/v5.12.3
>
> Checking if your kit is complete...
>
> Looks good
>
> Use of uninitialized value $v in substitution (s///) at
> lib/Apache2/Build.pm line 1330.
>
> [ error] Can't find apr include/ directory,
>
> [ error] use MP_APR_CONFIG=/path/to/apr-config
>
> (END)
>
>
>
> Thinking there was maybe a conflict with RHEL apr I did try running #
> yum remove apr* to remove RHEL related packages....
>
>
>
> repeated the whole process same result....same results with Perl 5.8.8
>
>
>
> I really can't believe that virgin stable release TARs on a pretty
> much standard RHEL 5 installs would be this difficult to get to work.
>
>
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward S. Szekeres, Jr., Ph.D. | Director of Bioinformatics
>
> PerkinElmer DNA Sequencing and Analysis Services PerkinElmer | For the
> Better
>
> edward.szekeres [at] perkinelmer
>
> Phone: +1 203.433.3237   |   Fax: +1 203.481.0433   |   Mobile:   +1
> 203.738.9524
>
> 29 Business Park Drive, Branford, CT 06405 USA
>
> www.perkinelmer.com
>
>
>
> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>
> This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and
> proprietary to PerkinElmer, Inc. If you are not the intended
> recipient of this message, please inform the sender by replying to
> this email or sending a message to the sender and destroy the message and any attachments. Thank you.
>
>
>
>
>
>

fred at redhotpenguin

Apr 18, 2011, 11:43 AM

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Re: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3] [In reply to]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Szekeres, Edward
<Edward.Szekeres [at] perkinelmer> wrote:
> Thanks for your reply....clarifications

For what it is worth, I'd suggest building mp2 as a shared object;
this approach is very well tested. You may be able to build as a
static module, but that can take some additional effort, and that
build option is not as widely tested.

Building as a dso is simple - 'perl Makefile.PL
MP_APXS=/usr/local/bin/apxs', or just 'perl Makefile.PL' if your apxs
is in $ENV{PATH}. This requires that you build Apache outside the
mod_perl build, but for that I usually './configure --enable-so
--with-included-apr --prefix=/path/to/my/apache'.

>
> 1) Perl 5.12.3 was compiled without thread support as per the mod_perl 2.0 installation directions
>
> 2) I have tried adding the "--with-included-apr" option without luck
>
> 2) As per the mod_perl documentation for static I am not pre-compiling Apache but was allowing the mod_perl 2.0 process to handle that
>
> 3) I was trying to match a pre-existing configuration which was using Apache 1.3 with mod_perl 1.0 statically linked in. While it would be preferred to keep the configuration the same, I am not sure it is mandatory.
>
> 4) what is also interesting is if I repeat the mod_perl configuration command again, I do not get that "Can't find apr include/ directory" error, and the config proceeds fine, however the make just throws a bunch of errors which seem to be apr related...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Moyer [mailto:fred [at] redhotpenguin]
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 12:33 PM
> To: Szekeres, Edward
> Cc: modperl [at] perl
> Subject: Re: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3]
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Szekeres, Edward <Edward.Szekeres [at] perkinelmer> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am attempting to get a clean up-to-date install Apache with static
>> linked mod_perl (using current stable releases for Apache (2.2.17)
>
> I didn't see the arguments you used to compile apache in here. But would suggest using --with-included-apr as a build option.
>
> A couple other questions:
>
> 1) Do you specifically need threads? If not, it is generally advised to compile Perl without them.
>
> 2) Do you need mod_perl2 statically compiled? Most users choose to compile it as a shared object, which is widely tested.
>
>
>
>> and mod_perl
>> (2.0.5) from .tar.gz files download from respective repositories) but
>> am at a frustrating dead end. I am looking for any suggestions as I
>> have an immediate need for this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the steps I have taken (multiple times):
>>
>> 1)      configured a new RHEL 5 32 bit virtual machine with 2 CPUs and
>> 4G RAM using "software development" template and no additional
>> software (no httpd), default PERL install of 5.8.8...
>>
>> 2)      all RHEL updates as of 4/17 applied
>>
>> 3)      download source for PERL 5.12.3, and installed
>>
>> a.       # ./Configure -des -Uusethreads
>>
>> b.      make, make test, make install (no errors)
>>
>> 4)      installed from CPAN "Bundle::Apache2" (tried both with and
>> without this step, # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 -MCPAN -e "install
>> Bundle::Apache2")
>>
>> 5)      though was using the official .tar.gz distribution of Apache,
>> I did run ./buildconf in the Apache source directory for consistency
>> (no errors)
>>
>> 6)      executed the mod_perl config in the mod_perl source directory:
>> # /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.3 Makefile.PL MP_USE_STATIC=1
>> MP_AP_PREFIX=/root/httpd-2.2.17 MP_AP_CONFIGURE="-with-mpm=prefork"
>>
>>
>>
>> and this is always the result at the end, what is interesting is that
>> in all the previous config steps, there don't seem to be any issues in
>> finding and working with apr related stuff....
>>
>>
>>
>> Configuring Apache/2.2.17 mod_perl/2.0.5 Perl/v5.12.3
>>
>> Checking if your kit is complete...
>>
>> Looks good
>>
>> Use of uninitialized value $v in substitution (s///) at
>> lib/Apache2/Build.pm line 1330.
>>
>> [ error] Can't find apr include/ directory,
>>
>> [ error] use MP_APR_CONFIG=/path/to/apr-config
>>
>> (END)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thinking there was maybe a conflict with RHEL apr I did try running #
>> yum remove apr* to remove RHEL related packages....
>>
>>
>>
>> repeated the whole process same result....same results with Perl 5.8.8
>>
>>
>>
>> I really can't believe that virgin stable release TARs on a pretty
>> much standard RHEL 5 installs would be this difficult to get to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Edward S. Szekeres, Jr., Ph.D. | Director of Bioinformatics
>>
>> PerkinElmer DNA Sequencing and Analysis Services PerkinElmer | For the
>> Better
>>
>> edward.szekeres [at] perkinelmer
>>
>> Phone: +1 203.433.3237   |   Fax: +1 203.481.0433   |   Mobile:   +1
>> 203.738.9524
>>
>> 29 Business Park Drive, Branford, CT 06405 USA
>>
>> www.perkinelmer.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.
>>
>> This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and
>> proprietary to PerkinElmer, Inc. If you are not the intended
>> recipient of this message, please inform the sender by replying to
>> this email or sending a message to the sender and destroy the message and any attachments. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Edward.Szekeres at PERKINELMER

Apr 18, 2011, 2:23 PM

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RE: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3] [In reply to]

Moving an installation from Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0.....

I am trying to move an existing installation of a PERL code base (of
which I am not the original author) to Apache 2.0 to help address some
security concerns. For the most part I have found Apache2 equivalents
for most of the modules but have the following which I cannot seem to
find compatible equivalents for.

use Apache::AuthDBI
use Apache::Constants
use Apache::Registry

and a reference to

use Apache;

Are there suggestions for replacements that would contain the same
functionality. I have not at this point found all specific procedural
calls for these.

Edward

fred at redhotpenguin

Apr 18, 2011, 4:10 PM

Post #6 of 6 (1160 views)
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Re: Installation help [mod_perl 2.0.5/apache 2.2.17/perl-5.12.3] [In reply to]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Szekeres, Edward
<Edward.Szekeres [at] perkinelmer> wrote:
> Moving an installation from Apache 1.3 to Apache 2.0.....
>
> I am trying to move an existing installation of a PERL code base (of
> which I am not the original author) to Apache 2.0 to help address some
> security concerns. For the most part I have found Apache2 equivalents
> for most of the modules but have the following which I cannot seem to
> find compatible equivalents for.
>
> use Apache::AuthDBI

Apache::DBI is mp2 friendly, so it should be a drop in replacement.

> use Apache::Constants

See http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/Apache2/Const.html

use Apache2::Const -compile => qw(FORBIDDEN OK);

> use Apache::Registry

http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/api/index.html

Take a look at ModPerl::Registry.

> and a reference to
>
> use Apache;

Here's a good link to read through for general migration:

http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/porting/compat.html

> Are there suggestions for replacements that would contain the same
> functionality. I have not at this point found all specific procedural
> calls for these.
>
>
> Edward
>

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