netmaster at digital-word
Jan 18, 2002, 11:02 AM
Post #5 of 16
:: > 1) The menu panel is completely disfigured.
:: sigh :( Any ideas why?
Stas, I have no idea why. However, it only seems to affect IE(6). NS6
displays this perfectly.
:: > 2) The font size is HUGE. I'm viewing on with a screen
:: Well, I've placed your snapshot next to mozilla and the font
:: is the same
:: (under 1280x1024 resolution), so it *is* big (not special in
:: IE6), we
:: just should make it smaller.
:: > 3) Regardless of the size of my browser window, I have a
:: > horizontal scroll bar. This is ugly and totally unnecessary.
:: again, any ideas why? and how to fix that
Again, no! :-( And, again, it's an IE thing - there's no scroll-bar
with NS6. It's already been pointed out (about a zillion times) that
MS' interpretation of CSS is non-standard... I guess this proves it.
However, I'm concerned that we're going to exclude the world's most used
web-browser for the sake of standards compliance. The annoying thing is
that tables would have prevented this, would have rendered across all
platforms (apart from text and specialist browsers) and ARE perfectly
valid and legitimate HTML when all said and done. I think we've all
been scratching the "standards" itch without really considering the
consequences - and I'm as guilty as everyone else.
:: > This needs to be fixed guys - I am beginning to believe
:: that we might
:: > not be able to do this layout without using tables.
:: sure we will, we don't have many choices. It's so simple with the
:: existing site, there is a plain page and it looks the same
:: but man, what a pain...
You said it.
:: I'm starting to think again about making it very simple, a
:: flat page as
:: it is now on perl.apache.org, with the expandable menu on
:: the *top* and
:: that's it. No troubles, no boxes, no complicated CSS or
:: table workarounds.
Oh hell, I don't know. Look at http://www.mysql.com/ - it's
professional, slick, clean and easy to use. It uses tables and some
CSS, it looks exactly the same in every browser I've tried it on. Isn't
that what we're trying to achieve?
:: Are you sure that once we figure out all the issues some
:: other users on
:: browser foo platform bar will start complaining that it
:: looks bad for
:: them or even worse, that's it's unusable.
I'm not sure no. I'm certain somebody, somewhere will complain - it's
inevitable. But look at the math - we need to cater for only two
browsers realistically, IE and NS. (I just know I'm going to get flamed
for these comments)
:: > FYI, I have also loaded the page into Netscape 6 on Win2K
:: and it looks
:: > great (apart from the huge fonts).
:: cool :)
Yes - it's definitely an IE problem. F&^k it, can't we just point a
ICBM at Redmond??? ;-)
Jonathan M. Hollin - WYPUG Co-ordinator
West Yorkshire Perl User Group
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