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Nov 6, 2009, 8:15 AM

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Auto Shut Off of 810

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able to
resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
Thanks,

Nick.

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wolfmane at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 8:46 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <Doc[at]docharley.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able to
> resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
> recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
> Thanks,
>
> Nick.

It's part of the instability of the OS. If it's been a long time since
you've reflashed and/or have lots of apps and data installed it will
do that. A clean reflash will probably fix it. I haven't been able to
identify any particular app as a culprit. I recently reflashed my N800
that was having that and other power issues (as well as some other
even more serious ones), and it's working fine now. This time around
I'm only reinstalling the apps I use a lot, although some of the
idiotic dependency issues are forcing the install of some things I
don't want or need...

Mark
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jc at eclis

Nov 6, 2009, 8:49 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

Dr. Nicholas Shaw a écrit :
> I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able to
> resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
> recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
> Thanks,

I have observed the same things with my N810 too. The problem go more
end more worse with the time, to the point where it reboot every 3 to 5
minutes. I then inspected the battery and see that it shape is not
completely flat anymore but have some difference in the height of his
main surfaces. It's very noticeable by passing the finger along the surface.

I have buy a new battery and then my N810 work now like a new one.

Jean-Christian
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jh+maemo at daria

Nov 6, 2009, 8:54 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:15:39 -0700, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:

>I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able to
>resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
>recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
>Thanks,
>
>Nick.
>
>

I had a problem on the N800 rebooting frequently on charger.
Eventually, I discovered it was one particular charger, charging from an
alternate charger or a USB charger gave a stable machine.

-jh

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xavier.bestel at free

Nov 6, 2009, 9:01 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

Jonathan Hudson:
> I had a problem on the N800 rebooting frequently on charger.
> Eventually, I discovered it was one particular charger, charging from an
> alternate charger or a USB charger gave a stable machine.

Jean-Christian de Rivaz:
> I have observed the same things with my N810 too. The problem go more
> end more worse with the time, to the point where it reboot every 3 to
> 5
> minutes. I then inspected the battery and see that it shape is not
> completely flat anymore but have some difference in the height of his
> main surfaces. It's very noticeable by passing the finger along the
> surface.
>
> I have buy a new battery and then my N810 work now like a new one.

Mark:
> It's part of the instability of the OS. If it's been a long time since
> you've reflashed and/or have lots of apps and data installed it will
> do that. A clean reflash will probably fix it. I haven't been able to
> identify any particular app as a culprit. I recently reflashed my N800
> that was having that and other power issues (as well as some other
> even more serious ones), and it's working fine now. This time around
> I'm only reinstalling the apps I use a lot, although some of the
> idiotic dependency issues are forcing the install of some things I
> don't want or need...

How nice .. 1 problem, 3 different causes and solutions :)

Xav

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Nov 6, 2009, 9:06 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Xavier Bestel <xavier.bestel[at]free.fr> wrote:
> Jonathan Hudson:
>> I had a problem on the N800 rebooting frequently on charger.
>> Eventually, I discovered it was one particular charger, charging from an
>> alternate charger or a USB charger gave a stable machine.
>
>
> Jean-Christian de Rivaz:
>> I have observed the same things with my N810 too. The problem go more
>> end more worse with the time, to the point where it reboot every 3 to
>> 5
>> minutes. I then inspected the battery and see that it shape is not
>> completely flat anymore but have some difference in the height of his
>> main surfaces. It's very noticeable by passing the finger along the
>> surface.
>>
>> I have buy a new battery and then my N810 work now like a new one.
>
>
> Mark:
>> It's part of the instability of the OS. If it's been a long time since
>> you've reflashed and/or have lots of apps and data installed it will
>> do that. A clean reflash will probably fix it. I haven't been able to
>> identify any particular app as a culprit. I recently reflashed my N800
>> that was having that and other power issues (as well as some other
>> even more serious ones), and it's working fine now. This time around
>> I'm only reinstalling the apps I use a lot, although some of the
>> idiotic dependency issues are forcing the install of some things I
>> don't want or need...
>
>
> How nice .. 1 problem, 3 different causes and solutions :)
>
> Xav
>

But there should be clues to indicate or rule out which is the most
likely cause/solution.
1) If it's the battery, there should be other indications like poor
battery life and the mentioned physical changes.
2) If it's a charger, that's extremely easy to test and the plan of
action is obvious.
3) In my case, even a brand new battery didn't help, and the original
Nokia charger didn't solve the problem. The reflash did.

Mark
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Doc at DocHarley

Nov 6, 2009, 9:31 AM

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RE: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

:-( No, I have two chargers - one for traveling and one at home and I've
had it with both chargers. But thank you!

Nick.

-----Original Message-----
From: maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org]
On Behalf Of Jonathan Hudson
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:55 AM
To: maemo-users[at]maemo.org
Subject: Re: Auto Shut Off of 810

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:15:39 -0700, Dr. Nicholas Shaw wrote:

>I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able
to
>resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
>recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
>Thanks,
>
>Nick.
>
>

I had a problem on the N800 rebooting frequently on charger.
Eventually, I discovered it was one particular charger, charging from an
alternate charger or a USB charger gave a stable machine.

-jh

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Doc at DocHarley

Nov 6, 2009, 9:42 AM

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RE: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

Mark,

I don't really install a lot of apps. Well, maybe I have as I have 21 apps
but they're not new (mostly business apps like gnumeric, xournal, password
safe, multilist, GPE suite, etc. One difference is that I received a lot of
updates to password safe (about six) just before this started happening
(about two weeks ago). The changes, I believe, were really targeted at
Fremantle. I'm not thinking that's the problem but I will take a look at the
apps. I hate to reflash and then have to restart the loads all over again
(I really hated that on the N800).
Thanks,

Nick.

-----Original Message-----
From: maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org]
On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 9:46 AM
To: maemo-users[at]maemo.org
Subject: Re: Auto Shut Off of 810

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Dr. Nicholas Shaw <Doc[at]docharley.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering if anyone else has had this occur and, if so, were you able
to
> resolve it short of buying a new 810. When I plug my N810 into power to
> recharge, it reboots on its own. I've come to accept it as an annoyance.
> Thanks,
>
> Nick.

It's part of the instability of the OS. If it's been a long time since
you've reflashed and/or have lots of apps and data installed it will
do that. A clean reflash will probably fix it. I haven't been able to
identify any particular app as a culprit. I recently reflashed my N800
that was having that and other power issues (as well as some other
even more serious ones), and it's working fine now. This time around
I'm only reinstalling the apps I use a lot, although some of the
idiotic dependency issues are forcing the install of some things I
don't want or need...

Mark
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jc at eclis

Nov 6, 2009, 10:47 AM

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Re: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

Dr. Nicholas Shaw a écrit :
> Mark,
>
> I don't really install a lot of apps. Well, maybe I have as I have 21 apps
> but they're not new (mostly business apps like gnumeric, xournal, password
> safe, multilist, GPE suite, etc. One difference is that I received a lot of
> updates to password safe (about six) just before this started happening
> (about two weeks ago). The changes, I believe, were really targeted at
> Fremantle. I'm not thinking that's the problem but I will take a look at the
> apps. I hate to reflash and then have to restart the loads all over again
> (I really hated that on the N800).
> Thanks,

Nicholas,

Before buying a new battery, I also have reflashed the system, but this
had made no impact on my N810. Replaced the battery was the solution for
my particular case. But as a battery in expensive, I encourage you to
verify any other possible cause.

Now to be extremely precise, I noticed the problem the day after having
flashed the last OS into the N810 to try the Canola2 application that
did not install into the old OS. I first suspected that Canola2 eat too
much power but the day after the same problem occurred without using
Canola2. Then I flashed the old OS back and observed that my N810 still
reboot while recharging, and so more en more often. Now my N810 work fin
with a new battery and the last OS (but I did not install Canola2).

So I concluded that that flashing the new OS was not the cause of the
problem, but an hazard in the timeline of the events.

Jean-Christian

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Doc at DocHarley

Nov 6, 2009, 11:49 AM

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RE: Auto Shut Off of 810 [In reply to]

Thank you, Jean-Christian. I appreciate your detailed response!

Once the N900 comes out (this month, hopefully), if the apps I use are
available (or a suitable replacement present) then this may be mute. Until
then, I'll continue to troubleshoot this. I now have different options.
Thanks!

Nick.

-----Original Message-----
From: maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org [mailto:maemo-users-bounces[at]maemo.org]
On Behalf Of Jean-Christian de Rivaz
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 11:47 AM
To: Dr. Nicholas Shaw
Cc: maemo-users[at]maemo.org
Subject: Re: Auto Shut Off of 810

Dr. Nicholas Shaw a écrit :
> Mark,
>
> I don't really install a lot of apps. Well, maybe I have as I have 21
apps
> but they're not new (mostly business apps like gnumeric, xournal, password
> safe, multilist, GPE suite, etc. One difference is that I received a lot
of
> updates to password safe (about six) just before this started happening
> (about two weeks ago). The changes, I believe, were really targeted at
> Fremantle. I'm not thinking that's the problem but I will take a look at
the
> apps. I hate to reflash and then have to restart the loads all over again
> (I really hated that on the N800).
> Thanks,

Nicholas,

Before buying a new battery, I also have reflashed the system, but this
had made no impact on my N810. Replaced the battery was the solution for
my particular case. But as a battery in expensive, I encourage you to
verify any other possible cause.

Now to be extremely precise, I noticed the problem the day after having
flashed the last OS into the N810 to try the Canola2 application that
did not install into the old OS. I first suspected that Canola2 eat too
much power but the day after the same problem occurred without using
Canola2. Then I flashed the old OS back and observed that my N810 still
reboot while recharging, and so more en more often. Now my N810 work fin
with a new battery and the last OS (but I did not install Canola2).

So I concluded that that flashing the new OS was not the cause of the
problem, but an hazard in the timeline of the events.

Jean-Christian

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