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rab at nauticom

Aug 13, 2008, 7:54 PM

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Out of memory for updates on N810

I am trying to install several updates but I get a message that I don't
have enough memory. One of the updates is an OS2008 update. Do I have
any options other than removing apps to free up space? Is there any way
to store apps in the internal memory or an external memory card?

Rick B.

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rabelg5 at gmail

Aug 14, 2008, 12:18 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

----- Original message -----
> I am trying to install several updates but I get a message that I don't
> have enough memory. One of the updates is an OS2008 update. Do I have
> any options other than removing apps to free up space? Is there any way
> to store apps in the internal memory or an external memory card?
>

Remove the documentation PDFs from the Documents folder, and the bundled media files from the Audio and Video clips folders.

If that doesn't do it, you'll need to remove some applcations (or move any personal media to a flash card).
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eliasson.christer at gmail

Aug 14, 2008, 12:18 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

So there is no possibility to mount the internal flashcard as a /home/
user on the N810 ?
Or even move the /usr to a external flashcard ?

Would be a nice hack todo enable though. Since the 256Mb of app
storage is quite limited.

Regards
Chris

14 aug 2008 kl. 09.18 skrev Ryan Abel:

>
> ----- Original message -----
>> I am trying to install several updates but I get a message that I
>> don't
>> have enough memory. One of the updates is an OS2008 update. Do I have
>> any options other than removing apps to free up space? Is there any
>> way
>> to store apps in the internal memory or an external memory card?
>>
>
> Remove the documentation PDFs from the Documents folder, and the
> bundled media files from the Audio and Video clips folders.
>
> If that doesn't do it, you'll need to remove some applcations (or
> move any personal media to a flash card).
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rabelg5 at gmail

Aug 14, 2008, 2:39 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Christer Eliasson
<eliasson.christer[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> So there is no possibility to mount the internal flashcard as a /home/user
> on the N810 ?
> Or even move the /usr to a external flashcard ?
>

Well, you COULD, but it's a stupid idea.

> Would be a nice hack todo enable though. Since the 256Mb of app storage is
> quite limited.
>

What you want to do is this: https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card
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g+770 at cobb

Aug 14, 2008, 3:08 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

On Thursday 14 August 2008 22:39:06 Ryan Abel wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Christer Eliasson
>
> <eliasson.christer[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > So there is no possibility to mount the internal flashcard as a
> > /home/user on the N810 ?
> > Or even move the /usr to a external flashcard ?
>
> Well, you COULD, but it's a stupid idea.

I'm not sure of that. I haven't moved /usr but I have moved /home onto a
separate partition on the internal flashcard. That way as I switch between
different system roots I still keep my files available.

> What you want to do is this:
> https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card

Definitely. It also helps avoid reflashing when you break something (leave
the original system on the internal flash so you can boot it to fix anything
nasty you have done to your main system).

But, that said, I haven't checked how this interacts with installing the new
OS update. Anyone tried it yet?

Graham
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ce at christeck

Aug 14, 2008, 3:14 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

Hi,

> But, that said, I haven't checked how this interacts with installing the
> new OS update. �Anyone tried it yet?

at least I do not get it to work. I'm not sure though if it is due to the OS
update. Might be a problem of the operator :) .

Cheers,

ce

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dufkaf at seznam

Aug 14, 2008, 11:42 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

Graham Cobb wrote:
> But, that said, I haven't checked how this interacts with installing the new
> OS update. Anyone tried it yet?
>
> Graham

In theory there is no problem (except loosing modified initfs). Here is
one example how it should work
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=212603#post212603
but there are failure reports too.

Frantisek
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Aug 15, 2008, 12:28 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> except loosing modified initfs

off topic but here it goes anyway, maybe it will help others too :-)
http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/looselose.html
http://www.queenofwands.net/comics/20050909b.jpg
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jholmblad at acadiasecurenets

Aug 15, 2008, 8:54 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

Frantisek,

ok, and got it. Now, does that mean that an individual who writes
"loose" when they mean "lose" is a "looser"?

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *

Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> > except loosing modified initfs
>
> off topic but here it goes anyway, maybe it will help others too :-)
> http://www.elearnenglishlanguage.com/difficulties/looselose.html
> http://www.queenofwands.net/comics/20050909b.jpg
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hendrik at topoi

Aug 15, 2008, 2:58 PM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:54:34AM -0400, John Holmblad wrote:
> Frantisek,
>
> ok, and got it. Now, does that mean that an individual who writes
> "loose" when they mean "lose" is a "looser"?

He loses. He's a loser, because he is loose with his spelling.

-- hendrik

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rab at nauticom

Aug 19, 2008, 8:08 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 17:39 -0400, Ryan Abel wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Christer Eliasson
> <eliasson.christer[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > So there is no possibility to mount the internal flashcard as a /home/user
> > on the N810 ?
> > Or even move the /usr to a external flashcard ?
> >
>
> Well, you COULD, but it's a stupid idea.
>
> > Would be a nice hack todo enable though. Since the 256Mb of app storage is
> > quite limited.
> >
>
> What you want to do is this: https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card

I followed the instructions for the N810 with a 2GB external card. It
took a couple of re-boots but it now brings up a boot menu (if I hold
down the menu button when booting) and lets me boot from the external
card. It's not clear whether the debian package will work with a 4GB
card.

Thanks.

Rick B.

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ce at christeck

Aug 19, 2008, 8:14 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

Hi,

> It's not clear whether the debian package will work with a 4GB
> card.

not sure what "debian package" means in this context, but my device boots from
a 4GB card.

Best regards,

ce
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rab at nauticom

Aug 22, 2008, 5:52 AM

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Re: Out of memory for updates on N810 [In reply to]

On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 17:14 +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > It's not clear whether the debian package will work with a 4GB
> > card.
>
> not sure what "debian package" means in this context, but my device boots from
> a 4GB card.
>
> Best regards,
>
> ce
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Penguinbait created a debian package to automate cloning the flash
installation onto the external memory card (and add a boot menu to
select what to boot from). On the web page it says that the package is
designed to do this with a 2gb card and has an ambiguous message about
whether it will or won't work with cards of other sizes for the N810.
Initially I tried cloning to the 4gb card and it didn't seem to work. I
guess I was just one reboot away from it working. (The process often
involves several reboots.) When I put the 4gb card back in, it booted
perfectly from the 4gb card. Possibly the web page needs to be
corrected.

Rick B.

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