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aklapper at openismus

Aug 12, 2008, 1:37 PM

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Changes in 4.2008.30-2 (was: Re: Is the Application Manager update process working for OS2008/Diablo?)

Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 13:47 -0400 schrieb John Holmblad:
> Today when I checked the app manager, it showed two updates as being
> available:
> OS2008 Feature Upgrade
> and
> MAP
> What is puzzling me is why the OS rebooted after this upgrade. It was
> my understanding that once OS2008/Diablo was installed, that future
> updates to the OS would not require a reboot.

No, only thing I remember is that you do not need to *flash* your device
anymore.

> Is is somehow possible that the App manager screwed up and caused me
> to re-install OS2008? The download was actually quite large ~15 mb or
> so.

No, and the Diablo image itself was ~130MB.

> It would be nice if there were some decent documentation on this
> OS2008 feature upgrade, if that is, in fact what it is. Does anyone
> know where such documentation is available at the Nokai www site?
> A search of the Nokia www site using the search term "OS2008 feature
> upgrade" did not reveal a pointer to any product documentation for
> this feature upgrade.

This would bring up the good old "Didn't Nokia want to provide public
ChangeLogs when having releases?" discussion. A classic, see the
archives.
One can search Maemo Bugzilla for closed bugs with Target Milestone "4.1
+", but this will also include bugs that have been fixed after the
4.2008.30-2 update was packaged.

I can only offer the list of packages included in the 4.2008.30-2
update:

browser-neteal (0.0.18-1)
flash-and-reboot (3)
hildon-input-method (1:2.0.4-1)
hildon-input-method-configurator (0.0.19-1)
hildon-input-method-widgets (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
icd2 (0.50)
icd2-network-wlan-config (0.47-diablo1)
initfs-flasher (0.95.16-200829maemo1)
kernel-diablo-flasher (2.6.21-200829maemo1)
libconbtui0 (1.5.46)
libconic0 (0.16-0.1)
libdbus-glib-1-2 (0.74.0osso6)
libhildon1 (2.0.5-1)
libhildon-im-hwrarea3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
libhildon-im-ui3 (1:2.0.4-1)
libhildon-im-vkbrenderer3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
libhildon-im-wordcompletion3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
libicd-network-dun (0.31-3)
libicd-network-ipv4 (0.15)
libicd-network-wlan (0.47-diablo1)
libicd-network-wlan-config (0.47-diablo1)
libicd2 (0.50)
libloudmouth1-0 (1.3.3-0osso5)
libmodest-dbus-client (1.0-2008.30-1)
libnspr4 (1.0.4-60.14)
libnss3 (1.0.4-60.14)
libnss3-certs (1.0.4-60.14)
libsmbclient (3.0.23c-1osso11)
libtinymail-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
libtinymail-camel-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
libtinymail-gnomevfs-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
libtinymail-maemo-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
libtinymailui-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
libtinymailui-gtk-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
maemo-launcher (0.31-3)
microb-eal (0.3.7-1.16)
microb-engine (1.0.4-60.14)
modest (1.0-2008.30-1)
modest-search-plugin (2008.23.1)
nokia-repository (5.7)
osso-af-startup (1.66-4)
osso-af-utils (1.17-1)
osso-app-killer (1.23-1)
osso-applet-location (0.30-1)
osso-applet-screencalibration (1.4.5-32)
osso-bookmark-menu (1:0.5.0-6)
osso-connectivity-ui (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-btsettings (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-connmgr (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-disclaimer (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-gwsettings (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-gwwizard (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-iapsettings (1.5.46)
osso-connectivity-ui-statusbar (1.5.46)
osso-ic-gwhwdetect (1:0.18)
osso-startup-wizard (2.2.26-1)
samba-common (3.0.23c-1osso11)
tablet-browser-controls (0.3.7-2.7)
tablet-browser-ui (0.5.3-2.15)
telepathy-sofiasip (0.5.4-0osso9)
telepathy-stream-engine (0.4.0-0osso6)

andre

PS: Can you please avoid sending HTML mail and instead use plain text?
Thanks in advance.
--
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jholmblad at acadiasecurenets

Aug 12, 2008, 6:41 PM

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Re: Changes in 4.2008.30-2 [In reply to]

Andre,

thanks for the info. And yes, after I sent the email I
realized/remembered that OS2008 promised no more reflashes for OS
upgrades but no promises were made about rebooting.

Regarding documentation, or lack thereof, I can understand scant
documentation if there are only bug fixes in a release. However this
update was advertised as a OS feature upgrade so I assume there is some
new and/or changed capability (sometimes features are subtracted, i.e.
taken away). Hence my question about documentation of those features.

As far as I can tell the OS2008 User Guide for the N800 and N810 has not
been updated to reflect these changes. Here is the url to the www page
for that document (Adobe Acrobat .pdf):

http://nds1.nokia.com/files/support/apac/phones/guides/Nokia_810_APAC_UG_en.pdf

For those not already aware, , here is the url to a wwwpage at the
Wikipedia www site that discusses the Nokia Internet Tablet OS and which
has already been updated to include this latest update to OS2008/Diablo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Tablet_OS

Regarding ny use of HTML, I normally set Thunderbird to default this
list to text only but it appears that that feature does not work reliably

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

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Andre Klapper wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am Dienstag, den 12.08.2008, 13:47 -0400 schrieb John Holmblad:
>
>> Today when I checked the app manager, it showed two updates as being
>> available:
>> OS2008 Feature Upgrade
>> and
>> MAP
>> What is puzzling me is why the OS rebooted after this upgrade. It was
>> my understanding that once OS2008/Diablo was installed, that future
>> updates to the OS would not require a reboot.
>>
>
> No, only thing I remember is that you do not need to *flash* your device
> anymore.
>
>
>> Is is somehow possible that the App manager screwed up and caused me
>> to re-install OS2008? The download was actually quite large ~15 mb or
>> so.
>>
>
> No, and the Diablo image itself was ~130MB.
>
>
>> It would be nice if there were some decent documentation on this
>> OS2008 feature upgrade, if that is, in fact what it is. Does anyone
>> know where such documentation is available at the Nokai www site?
>> A search of the Nokia www site using the search term "OS2008 feature
>> upgrade" did not reveal a pointer to any product documentation for
>> this feature upgrade.
>>
>
> This would bring up the good old "Didn't Nokia want to provide public
> ChangeLogs when having releases?" discussion. A classic, see the
> archives.
> One can search Maemo Bugzilla for closed bugs with Target Milestone "4.1
> +", but this will also include bugs that have been fixed after the
> 4.2008.30-2 update was packaged.
>
> I can only offer the list of packages included in the 4.2008.30-2
> update:
>
> browser-neteal (0.0.18-1)
> flash-and-reboot (3)
> hildon-input-method (1:2.0.4-1)
> hildon-input-method-configurator (0.0.19-1)
> hildon-input-method-widgets (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
> icd2 (0.50)
> icd2-network-wlan-config (0.47-diablo1)
> initfs-flasher (0.95.16-200829maemo1)
> kernel-diablo-flasher (2.6.21-200829maemo1)
> libconbtui0 (1.5.46)
> libconic0 (0.16-0.1)
> libdbus-glib-1-2 (0.74.0osso6)
> libhildon1 (2.0.5-1)
> libhildon-im-hwrarea3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
> libhildon-im-ui3 (1:2.0.4-1)
> libhildon-im-vkbrenderer3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
> libhildon-im-wordcompletion3 (3.2.18-reversion-part-1)
> libicd-network-dun (0.31-3)
> libicd-network-ipv4 (0.15)
> libicd-network-wlan (0.47-diablo1)
> libicd-network-wlan-config (0.47-diablo1)
> libicd2 (0.50)
> libloudmouth1-0 (1.3.3-0osso5)
> libmodest-dbus-client (1.0-2008.30-1)
> libnspr4 (1.0.4-60.14)
> libnss3 (1.0.4-60.14)
> libnss3-certs (1.0.4-60.14)
> libsmbclient (3.0.23c-1osso11)
> libtinymail-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> libtinymail-camel-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> libtinymail-gnomevfs-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> libtinymail-maemo-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> libtinymailui-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> libtinymailui-gtk-1.0-0 (1.0.0-svn3725)
> maemo-launcher (0.31-3)
> microb-eal (0.3.7-1.16)
> microb-engine (1.0.4-60.14)
> modest (1.0-2008.30-1)
> modest-search-plugin (2008.23.1)
> nokia-repository (5.7)
> osso-af-startup (1.66-4)
> osso-af-utils (1.17-1)
> osso-app-killer (1.23-1)
> osso-applet-location (0.30-1)
> osso-applet-screencalibration (1.4.5-32)
> osso-bookmark-menu (1:0.5.0-6)
> osso-connectivity-ui (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-btsettings (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-connmgr (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-disclaimer (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-gwsettings (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-gwwizard (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-iapsettings (1.5.46)
> osso-connectivity-ui-statusbar (1.5.46)
> osso-ic-gwhwdetect (1:0.18)
> osso-startup-wizard (2.2.26-1)
> samba-common (3.0.23c-1osso11)
> tablet-browser-controls (0.3.7-2.7)
> tablet-browser-ui (0.5.3-2.15)
> telepathy-sofiasip (0.5.4-0osso9)
> telepathy-stream-engine (0.4.0-0osso6)
>
> andre
>
> PS: Can you please avoid sending HTML mail and instead use plain text?
> Thanks in advance.
>

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eero.tamminen at nokia

Aug 13, 2008, 12:15 AM

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Re: Changes in 4.2008.30-2 [In reply to]

Hi,

ext John Holmblad wrote:
> thanks for the info. And yes, after I sent the email I
> realized/remembered that OS2008 promised no more reflashes for OS
> upgrades but no promises were made about rebooting.
>
> Regarding documentation, or lack thereof, I can understand scant
> documentation if there are only bug fixes in a release. However this
> update was advertised as a OS feature upgrade so I assume there is some
> new and/or changed capability (sometimes features are subtracted, i.e.
> taken away). Hence my question about documentation of those features.

AFAIK it has only bug fixes (to browser, email etc which you can
fairly well find from public bugzilla, see Andre's mail).

Hm. Maybe one could think of the maemo-launcher change as a "feature"
although it's "a bit" developer oriented...

The maemo-invoker that proxies default applications launch requests
to maemo-launcher, raises the signals into which the launched
application terminated so that the maemo-invoker caller receives
them properly. However, if the application terminated to SIGSEGV
that creates a core-dump also for maemo-invoker which could confuse
developers and testers (as maemo-invoker core dump gets the application
name and the actual application core dump is named maemo-launcher).
Maemo-invoker has now disabled core dumping for itself, so there's
only one core dump[1]. :-)

- Eero

[1] You can get core dumps by adding "core-dumps" directory to your
memory card that has enough space for them. Note that without
installing the "rich-core" package which compresses the core dumps
(and adds some extra information to them), core dumps can be *huge*
as they include all application memory (check VMSIZE from "top" to
see what I mean).
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jholmblad at acadiasecurenets

Aug 13, 2008, 8:16 AM

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Re: Changes in 4.2008.30-2 [In reply to]

Ereo,

well there is a solution for documenting that "developer feature". Just
implement a "red pill" mode for the OS2008 user document itself!

Hmm ....now lets see, .....Adobe Acrobat does support document security
features......

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

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Eero Tamminen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ext John Holmblad wrote:
>> thanks for the info. And yes, after I sent the email I
>> realized/remembered that OS2008 promised no more reflashes for OS
>> upgrades but no promises were made about rebooting.
>>
>> Regarding documentation, or lack thereof, I can understand scant
>> documentation if there are only bug fixes in a release. However this
>> update was advertised as a OS feature upgrade so I assume there is
>> some new and/or changed capability (sometimes features are
>> subtracted, i.e. taken away). Hence my question about documentation
>> of those features.
>
> AFAIK it has only bug fixes (to browser, email etc which you can
> fairly well find from public bugzilla, see Andre's mail).
>
>
> Hm. Maybe one could think of the maemo-launcher change as a "feature"
> although it's "a bit" developer oriented...
>
> The maemo-invoker that proxies default applications launch requests
> to maemo-launcher, raises the signals into which the launched
> application terminated so that the maemo-invoker caller receives
> them properly. However, if the application terminated to SIGSEGV
> that creates a core-dump also for maemo-invoker which could confuse
> developers and testers (as maemo-invoker core dump gets the application
> name and the actual application core dump is named maemo-launcher).
> Maemo-invoker has now disabled core dumping for itself, so there's
> only one core dump[1]. :-)
>
>
> - Eero
>
> [1] You can get core dumps by adding "core-dumps" directory to your
> memory card that has enough space for them. Note that without
> installing the "rich-core" package which compresses the core dumps
> (and adds some extra information to them), core dumps can be *huge*
> as they include all application memory (check VMSIZE from "top" to
> see what I mean).
>
>

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