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peter at dps-darwin

Feb 7, 2008, 8:02 PM

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Nokia N810 PIM

Hi,

A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
Palm Tx to a N810.

1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
calendar.
2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
onto Myob for the accounts people.

If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.

thanks.

Peter



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jason at rampaginggeek

Feb 8, 2008, 6:16 AM

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Peter Hickey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> Palm Tx to a N810.
>
> 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> calendar.
> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
> 3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
> update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
> a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
> onto Myob for the accounts people.
>
> If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.
>
1. The GPE tools are your best bet. You'll need to add the repository.
On your n810, go to
http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 and click on
OS2008, then search for GPE. Click on the install icon for the
repository that has GPE. After that go into application manager, browse
installable apps and install all of the gpe apps.

For syncing with Google calendare, try this:
http://linuxuk.blogspot.com/2008/01/gpe-cal-to-windows-mobile-smart-phone.html

2. Not yet. There is a notes editor and a pdf viewer. OpenOffice is too big.
3. I think that the claws email client has templates. Search for claws
on the gronmayer site.

I've been using Palms for 5+ years. I am still trying to switch from my
Palm m130 to my N800, but I've hit the following road blocks:
1. Getting GPE calendar to sync with my MS Exchange calendar is a
challenge even for a linux veteran like myself.
2. GPE Calendar doesn't know how to use the built-in N800/810 wake-up
feature so it can only alert you for appointments if it's on. The
wake-up software is called "alarm" and can be used to wake-up the
N800/810 at a certain time, even if it's off, but few if any apps use
it. There is a command-line alarm program to set wakeup events that run
a command.

Don't get me wrong, I love my N800. It's just needs more software to
truly realize it's full potential and that software still needs to be
written. Thankfully, anyone with linux development experience can
develop for the device.

For now, I'm carrying my Palm, N800, and my Cellphone to work. I have a
good start on a batman-like utility belt. I'll ditch my Palm once I get
a decent Exchange calendar synchronization solution working.

You could also try the Garnet VM which is a Palm emulator for the
N800/N810, but it's a time-limited beta.

Sincerely,
Jason
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erik at hovland

Feb 8, 2008, 8:21 AM

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Re: Nokia N810 PIM [In reply to]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:32:44PM +0930, Peter Hickey wrote:
> A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> Palm Tx to a N810.

I first went from Palm to Opie and now I am struggling to use either my
N800 or my N810 as my PIM platform. I still carry an iPAQ running Opie
because I have not found anything suitable yet.

> 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> calendar.

Two suggestions, no idea if they will work for you.
1. The browser on the N810 can fake the iPhone user agent string and use
the iPhone version of the google calendar page.

2. Google gears ought to make it possible to take your calendar
off-line.

The other poster's comment about GPE is valid. It is the most usable
calendar app on maemo at the moment. Pimlico [1] also works (but I do not
like the way viewing works on it and no syncing at all).

> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.

Not yet. You are better off turning docs into html or plucker and
viewing them either with the browser or fbreader.

> 3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
> update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
> a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
> onto Myob for the accounts people.

Do you mean making the template on the N810? You have several editors
available to you on the N810 - Notes (which uses html natively), nano,
vi (in busybox) and more.

> If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.

Fortunately, your N810 can do skype!

E

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andrew.james.barr at gmail

Feb 8, 2008, 8:35 AM

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Jason Edgecombe wrote:
> Peter Hickey wrote:
>> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
> 2. Not yet. There is a notes editor and a pdf viewer. OpenOffice is too
> big. 3. I think that the claws email client has templates. Search for
> claws on the gronmayer site.

I think Evince will read ODF files, and I seem to remember a port of that
being done to Maemo a while ago.

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bethkirby at gmail

Feb 8, 2008, 10:51 AM

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Nokia N810 PIM [In reply to]

There is a palm (garnet) emulation for the nokia:
http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/. I've downloaded it, but not
gotten around to putting it on my nokia. Would that be interesting to
you?

Beth


>
> Hi,
>
> A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> Palm Tx to a N810.
>
> 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> calendar.
>
>


erik at hovland

Feb 8, 2008, 11:46 AM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:51:09AM -0800, Elizabeth Kirby wrote:
> There is a palm (garnet) emulation for the nokia:
> http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/. I've downloaded it, but not
> gotten around to putting it on my nokia. Would that be interesting to
> you?

The biggest problem with the garnet emulator is that it doesn't use the
whole screen. That makes it little better then a toy or transition
platform.

E

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tpe at ida

Feb 8, 2008, 2:02 PM

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Jason Edgecombe <jason[at]rampaginggeek.com> writes:

> Peter Hickey wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> > Palm Tx to a N810.
> >
> > 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> > manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> > calendar.
> > 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
> > 3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
> > update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
> > a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
> > onto Myob for the accounts people.
> >
> > If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> > using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.
> >
> 1. The GPE tools are your best bet. You'll need to add the repository.
> On your n810, go to
> http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 and click on
> OS2008, then search for GPE. Click on the install icon for the
> repository that has GPE. After that go into application manager, browse
> installable apps and install all of the gpe apps.

I just changed from a Palm T5 to a N810 and are trying to reuse my
memos and todos and see if the gpe calender is useful. What I wonder
is if the calender and todo data is backed up when I do a backup? I
really do not have any need to synchonize with some other calender but
I want to be sure that I cannot loose my data.

And more general, how do you know that for an arbitrary applicaton?

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erik at hovland

Feb 8, 2008, 2:23 PM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 11:02:44PM +0100, Tommy Persson wrote:
> Jason Edgecombe <jason[at]rampaginggeek.com> writes:
>
> > Peter Hickey wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> > > Palm Tx to a N810.
> > >
> > > 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> > > manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> > > calendar.
> > > 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
> > > 3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
> > > update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
> > > a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
> > > onto Myob for the accounts people.
> > >
> > > If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> > > using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.
> > >
> > 1. The GPE tools are your best bet. You'll need to add the repository.
> > On your n810, go to
> > http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 and click on
> > OS2008, then search for GPE. Click on the install icon for the
> > repository that has GPE. After that go into application manager, browse
> > installable apps and install all of the gpe apps.
>
> I just changed from a Palm T5 to a N810 and are trying to reuse my
> memos and todos and see if the gpe calender is useful. What I wonder
> is if the calender and todo data is backed up when I do a backup? I
> really do not have any need to synchonize with some other calender but
> I want to be sure that I cannot loose my data.

If you mean backup through the control panel? No, that does not backup
your GPE data. You will need to either use a tool like opensync or use a
simple file backup like rsync to make sure your data is safer.

> And more general, how do you know that for an arbitrary applicaton?

You can pretty much assume that if the app is third party that it is the
third party's responsibility to hook it into the ITOS backup utility.
Which generally means that most of these apps are not covered by the
backup tool.

E

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dave at sherohman

Feb 8, 2008, 2:47 PM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:32:44PM +0930, Peter Hickey wrote:
> If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.

I've come to an N800 (I seriously considered an N810, but ultimately
decided I preferred the larger memory capacity and non-fixed camera on
the N800) from a background of a Palm IIIx which was finally replaced by
a Tungsten C. I've only had the N800 for about two weeks so far, but
I'm definitely liking it overall as an upgrade.

The one PIM bit that I'm missing (and still has me occasionally using my
Tungsten) is a match for Palm's todo app. Checklist-type memos in
Maemopad+ is the best I've come up with so far, but (AFAIK) it still
lacks the ability to reorder the list or to delete all checked items[1].
The necessity to manually save changes instead of actions being
immediately persistent by default also feels like a step backwards from
the Palm todo app.

I have also tried gpe-todo, but it seems to be much more intended as a
serious project management tool rather than the simplified checklist
that I'm looking for. (e.g., One of my major uses for the Palm todo app
is keeping track of my grocery list. Either I have bought milk or I
haven't; moving it from "Not Started" to "In Progress" to "Completed"
seems a bit silly. Not to mention that gpe-todo's checkboxes are too
small to easily hit with a fingernail (so I'm not constantly digging out
a stylus while walking through the store)...)


[1] There is a 'delete all selected items', but that still requires you
to manually select the checked items (introducing the possibility of
errors in selection) and, if the checked items don't form a single
contiguous group, you have to separately select/delete each group,
unless there's a way to select multiple disjoint items which I haven't
discovered yet.

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g+770 at cobb

Feb 8, 2008, 2:52 PM

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On Friday 08 February 2008 22:02:44 Tommy Persson wrote:
> I just changed from a Palm T5 to a N810 and are trying to reuse my
> memos and todos and see if the gpe calender is useful. What I wonder
> is if the calender and todo data is backed up when I do a backup? I
> really do not have any need to synchonize with some other calender but
> I want to be sure that I cannot loose my data.

Yes, it is backed up. However, there is a problem with restoring the data
(see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2881).

The GPE data counts as "documents". If you select "documents" to be backed
up, the data is correctly stored in the backup ZIP files. I believe it will
be correctly restored if you have to reflash the device. However, restoring
to an existing system does not work.

This is a backup/restore bug, not a GPE bug. It applies to all data you
backup -- you cannot restore a backup of your documents if you manage to
delete one of them by mistake.

In an emergency you could install "unzip" and then unzip the backup files by
hand and copy the data files. Alternatively, if you are paranoid, you can
copy the GPE data yourself onto a memory card. The data is in a hidden
directory, so you can't use the GUI, but you can do it from an X Terminal --
you would copy everything in the ~/.gpe directory.

Or vote for bug 2881, if you care about restoring your backups.

> And more general, how do you know that for an arbitrary applicaton?

Well, you can check the files which control this, which are
in /etc/osso-backup/applications/. But the best way to be sure is to test
it.

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g+770 at cobb

Feb 8, 2008, 2:59 PM

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On Friday 08 February 2008 22:23:05 Erik Hovland wrote:
> If you mean backup through the control panel? No, that does not backup
> your GPE data. You will need to either use a tool like opensync or use a
> simple file backup like rsync to make sure your data is safer.

Erik,

If you know of a case where GPE data is not backed up using the builtin
backup/restore utility please let me know. It is supposed to work, and I
have even tested it, but there could be a bug lurking of course.

As I said in my other note, restore doesn't work but that seems to be true for
all uses of the backup/restore utility.

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tpe at ida

Feb 8, 2008, 3:31 PM

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Graham Cobb <g+770[at]cobb.uk.net> writes:

> In an emergency you could install "unzip" and then unzip the backup files by
> hand and copy the data files. Alternatively, if you are paranoid, you can
> copy the GPE data yourself onto a memory card. The data is in a hidden
> directory, so you can't use the GUI, but you can do it from an X Terminal --
> you would copy everything in the ~/.gpe directory.

Good to know and I will probably do a manual copy sometimes. I am
regularly logging in to update the data I have in subversion so no
problem with that.

I think GPE will suit my needs very well. I especially liked that you
can have more than one category for an item and I assume that you can
have unlimited number of categoried (compated to the 16 I am used to).

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erik at hovland

Feb 8, 2008, 3:56 PM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:59:47PM +0000, Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Friday 08 February 2008 22:23:05 Erik Hovland wrote:
> > If you mean backup through the control panel? No, that does not backup
> > your GPE data. You will need to either use a tool like opensync or use a
> > simple file backup like rsync to make sure your data is safer.
>
> Erik,
>
> If you know of a case where GPE data is not backed up using the builtin
> backup/restore utility please let me know. It is supposed to work, and I
> have even tested it, but there could be a bug lurking of course.

Thanks for proving me wrong! Good job of being a responsible third
party.

E

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hendrik at topoi

Feb 8, 2008, 4:25 PM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:59:47PM +0000, Graham Cobb wrote:
>
> If you know of a case where GPE data is not backed up using the builtin
> backup/restore utility please let me know. It is supposed to work, and I
> have even tested it, but there could be a bug lurking of course.
>
> As I said in my other note, restore doesn't work but that seems to be true for
> all uses of the backup/restore utility.

What's the point of a backup that you can't restore from? Or have I
misunderstood something?

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hendrik at topoi

Feb 8, 2008, 4:37 PM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:47:24PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 01:32:44PM +0930, Peter Hickey wrote:
> > If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> > using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.
>
> I've come to an N800 (I seriously considered an N810, but ultimately
> decided I preferred the larger memory capacity and non-fixed camera on
> the N800) from a background of a Palm IIIx which was finally replaced by
> a Tungsten C. I've only had the N800 for about two weeks so far, but
> I'm definitely liking it overall as an upgrade.
>
> The one PIM bit that I'm missing (and still has me occasionally using my
> Tungsten) is a match for Palm's todo app.

I had a palm. I found the memo feature the most useful for my TODO
list. Except for the limited number of categories and the inability to
put items in multiple categories, it worked fine.

> Checklist-type memos in
> Maemopad+ is the best I've come up with so far, but (AFAIK) it still
> lacks the ability to reorder the list or to delete all checked items[1].

Reordering the list was necessary.

> The necessity to manually save changes instead of actions being
> immediately persistent by default also feels like a step backwards from
> the Palm todo app.
>
> I have also tried gpe-todo, but it seems to be much more intended as a
> serious project management tool rather than the simplified checklist
> that I'm looking for.

It's not even that -- a serious project management tool has a way to
identify which items have to wait on which other items. That and
estimates of the resources and time needed for an action have been
around in project management since the 60's, at least. I remember such
a sustem running on an IBM 1620 -- a machine with 20K digits of memory.

> (e.g., One of my major uses for the Palm todo app
> is keeping track of my grocery list. Either I have bought milk or I
> haven't; moving it from "Not Started" to "In Progress" to "Completed"
> seems a bit silly. Not to mention that gpe-todo's checkboxes are too
> small to easily hit with a fingernail (so I'm not constantly digging out
> a stylus while walking through the store)...)

With or without a stylus, it's still a two-handed operation, so you need
a grocery cart and not a basket.

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g+770 at cobb

Feb 9, 2008, 1:35 AM

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On Saturday 09 February 2008 00:25:24 hendrik[at]topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 10:59:47PM +0000, Graham Cobb wrote:
> > As I said in my other note, restore doesn't work but that seems to be
> > true for all uses of the backup/restore utility.
>
> What's the point of a backup that you can't restore from? Or have I
> misunderstood something?

I agree. Vote for bug 2881 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2881) and
hope they fix it before you need your backup :-)

Seriously, the data is saved in the backup and can be retrieved by
installing "unzip" and playing with it from the command line. If you found
yourself in the position where you really needed the data from that backup
and it wouldn't restore I am sure a question here or in ITT would result in
some help.

I *think* restore works if you re-flash your device. I haven't tested it but
I seem to remember using it in the past. The problem *seems* to be restoring
backups when some of the data in the backup already exists.

And, just to be clear, this is not just a problem for GPE -- it applies to
documents you backup as well.

Graham
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erik at hovland

Feb 9, 2008, 11:27 AM

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On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 04:47:24PM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote:
> The one PIM bit that I'm missing (and still has me occasionally using my
> Tungsten) is a match for Palm's todo app. Checklist-type memos in
> Maemopad+ is the best I've come up with so far, but (AFAIK) it still
> lacks the ability to reorder the list or to delete all checked items[1].
> The necessity to manually save changes instead of actions being
> immediately persistent by default also feels like a step backwards from
> the Palm todo app.

Consider trying the pimlico Tasks application:
http://pimlico-project.org/tasks.html

It works closer to Palm todo then gpe-todo does. It lacks good category
support. But maybe you can convince someone at o-hand to complete that
feature.

E

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peter at petertheplumber

Feb 9, 2008, 7:11 PM

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On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 13:32 +0930, Peter Hickey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A couple of quick question from someone who has just upgraded from a
> Palm Tx to a N810.
>
> 1. I am hoping someone can point me to a good Personal information
> manager and address book that I could use to get updates from google
> calendar.

I put my vote in for GPE. I've been working on getting it to
synchronize with Evolution, but since the device has really changed how
I work I haven't made much progress on that. Ryan Pavlik has a really
good guide on that. I believe there are also guides to sync to Schedule
World and I think Google? The way I used to use it was make notes,
schedule appts etc during the day and then sync them to do the "real"
work on the pc. Now I use the Nokia to complete whatever I need to do.
The built in backup utility does back up the GPE database, I have
restored it several times after flashing a newer firmware. I use the
todo app simply to list a todo. I have a separate file; named
appropriately; using Leafpad to edit it that has all the details, dates,
notes, etc. I use Claws for the email client to send or receive what I
need on the spot. No more dealing with everything twice. It's taken a
while but I am much happier


> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.

I use antiword coupled with docreader to read .doc files. There is a
new version of Abiword out there right now.


> 3. Is there anyway to make a template up that I can either email or
> update a web page from my N810. I am looking and creating
> a template document for listing my jobs completed so they can be passed
> onto Myob for the accounts people.
>
> If there is anyone out there who also has a palm background who is now
> using a N810 I would love to chat. Maybe even a Skype call or two.

I used a Palm T|X for a while, I got tired of sending it back for a new
one. Like I mentioned before, it's taken a while to get used to a
different way to do things but I think it's gone rather well. Sorry
about Skype, I'd rather use Gizmo. Look on the ITT website for all sorts
of goodies, try the wiki.

Good Luck,

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abiryan at ryand

Feb 10, 2008, 3:29 PM

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Andrew Barr wrote:
> Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>
>> Peter Hickey wrote:
>>
>>> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
>>>
>> 2. Not yet. There is a notes editor and a pdf viewer. OpenOffice is too
>> big. 3. I think that the claws email client has templates. Search for
>> claws on the gronmayer site.
>>
>
> I think Evince will read ODF files, and I seem to remember a port of that
> being done to Maemo a while ago.
>
>
An AbiWord port is in private beta now and will be opened up further
soon. This should provide such support.

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james.knott at rogers

Feb 10, 2008, 3:31 PM

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Ryan Pavlik wrote:
> Andrew Barr wrote:
>
>> Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Peter Hickey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 2. Not yet. There is a notes editor and a pdf viewer. OpenOffice is too
>>> big. 3. I think that the claws email client has templates. Search for
>>> claws on the gronmayer site.
>>>
>>>
>> I think Evince will read ODF files, and I seem to remember a port of that
>> being done to Maemo a while ago.
>>
>>
>>
> An AbiWord port is in private beta now and will be opened up further
> soon. This should provide such support.
>
>

Does it save in ODT now? And if so, is it possible to make it the
default format?


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abiryan at ryand

Feb 11, 2008, 5:24 AM

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James Knott wrote:
> Ryan Pavlik wrote:
>
>> Andrew Barr wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Jason Edgecombe wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Peter Hickey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2. Can I install open office or similar Doc reader on my n810.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 2. Not yet. There is a notes editor and a pdf viewer. OpenOffice is too
>>>> big. 3. I think that the claws email client has templates. Search for
>>>> claws on the gronmayer site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think Evince will read ODF files, and I seem to remember a port of that
>>> being done to Maemo a while ago.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> An AbiWord port is in private beta now and will be opened up further
>> soon. This should provide such support.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Does it save in ODT now? And if so, is it possible to make it the
> default format?
>
>
>
AbiWord has had ODT save and open support for quite some time now. This
is a plugin and so unless we do something unpleasant or something I
don't know how to do with the packaging, you'll have an AbiWord plugins
package too.

If you fully understand the risks (that is, that saving in a different
format by default - while still working on the document - is very risky
and may mean data loss or features not working) of working in ODT
instead of in ABW then save-as as ODT when finished, you can manually
edit a settings file to make the change. This is intentionally
difficult because the risk is great. Please search the AbiWord mailing
list archives for a more thorough discussion.

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g+770 at cobb

Feb 18, 2008, 11:08 AM

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On Friday 08 February 2008 22:52:15 Graham Cobb wrote:
> Yes, it is backed up.  However, there is a problem with restoring the data
> (see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2881).  

Mea culpa.

Apologies to the Nokia backup/restore people... my problem restoring backups
turned out to be a problem with the (unsupported) way my test N810 was set
up. See the bug report for details.

I have tested GPE backup/restore on a standard installation and it works fine,
both backup and restore.

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peter at petertheplumber

Feb 18, 2008, 2:52 PM

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 19:08:42 +0000
Graham Cobb <g+770[at]cobb.uk.net> wrote:

> On Friday 08 February 2008 22:52:15 Graham Cobb wrote:
> > Yes, it is backed up.  However, there is a problem with restoring
> > the data (see https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2881).  
>
> Mea culpa.
>
> Apologies to the Nokia backup/restore people... my problem restoring
> backups turned out to be a problem with the (unsupported) way my test
> N810 was set up. See the bug report for details.
>
> I have tested GPE backup/restore on a standard installation and it
> works fine, both backup and restore.
>
> Graham

Thanks Graham!

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