john at rudd
Oct 21, 2007, 10:29 AM
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Fred Chittenden wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:45:25 +0200
> Luca Olivetti <luca [at] ventoso> wrote:
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>> En/na Alan Williamson ha escrit:
>>
>>> Is the Email client still p*ss poor when it comes to IMAP folders?
>>> Or have they actually fixed that?
>> Oh, is the standard email client supposed to work? Since it couldn't
>> even authenticate to my server (I'm using cram-md5) I just though it
>> was there to occupy a slot in the menu and went on installing claws.
>> A bit slow at times but it works ok[*] with imap.
>>
> IMHO, for email cients, Nokia ought to figure out how to makeclaws the
> default client. Or at least pick a version of it to call
> something like 'tab-claws' and get on with other things, like perhaps
> getting some subset of open office or star office (or perhaps what
> symbian had working on the Mako PDA) working on the tablet for
> some minor word and excel compatibility.
Re: what to do with the built-in email client: replace it with an API so
that when programs want to save by "send via email", they can pick any
application to do so. Then whatever built in client is there can be
100% replaceable. My only reason for even bothering to config the
built-in client is so that I can email my meeting notes to myself with
just a click or two.
I use clawmail becuase it's what's available for real IMAP support, but
I wouldn't pick it as the ideal solution. There are few UI things I'd
want to see get changed:
1) In the folder list view, make it easier to manipulate the little
triangles that reveal/hide sub-folders. (I filed a bug report for this
with clawsmail, and I'm waiting to hear if it gets fixed)
2) Add a mode where your folder list view will only display folders with
unread messages, folders you've accessed during the current session, or
folders you've marked as "favorites" (so, a menu with 4 options: All,
Unread, Recent, Favorite). This will make it MUCH easier to access
multiple accounts and/or accounts with tons of folders (like mine).
When they added this to thunderbird, it was a godsend. (I filed a
feature request for this with clawsmail, and they said no)
3) When composing messages, the behavior is a little visually annoying
the way it moves the to/from entries from the top to the bottom of the
screen and such. It seems like the UI wasn't exactly designed for the
tablets, at least not designed for using the tablets with the stylus
keyboard. I'd like to see this cleaned up a little.
If they did all of that, I might like clawsmail more. But, actually, I
find myself preferring just falling back on my webmail servers (I use
communigate pro both at work and at home) rather than dealing with
clawsmail. Normally I hate webmail interfaces ... but I find that to be
less annoying than dealing with clawsmail.
I sort of wish that, like they did with replacing the web browser with
Firefox, they'd just port Thunderbird and clean up its interface for
working on the smaller screen. Oh, and, sync tools for the contacts
list, so that your desktop contacts list is kept in sync with the PDA's.
But, that might not be the best plan. The best plan (even though I'm
not much of a gmail user) might be:
* Work with Google to get Google's Gmail Contacts list added to the
Google API
* Work with Google to add Folder support to Google Bookmarks
* Work with Google to get the mobile apps (at least gmail, calendar, and
docs) ported to maemo, so that you can cache your messages, calendar
stuff, and docs for off-line reading and composing, and then sync them
when you get on-line again.
* Work with Google to make a sync tool between maemo Contacts and
Bookmarks with Google's.
* Oh, and make it all work with the "Google Apps for (Enterprise,
Education, Your Domain)" services. That includes adding this support to
the Gmail Notifier (at work we're contemplating moving some of our email
stuff to Google Apps for Education, and Gmail Notifier only half-works
with "Google Apps for X"; it'll tell you when you've got new mail, but
it wont take you to your hosted gmail, only to the generic gmail).
Nice platform independent and network focused services that fit some of
the other google focused things maemo comes with. And, given that
Google wants to provide software for a mobile platform, they might be
entirely open to the idea. And it benefits Maemo by finally having a
central mechanism for syncing important data, and an office equivalent
productivity suite (word processing, spread sheet, presentation
graphics, calendar, and full service email). I think this would be a
win-win-win (win for nokia, win for google, win for us).
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