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alan at blog-city

Oct 17, 2007, 12:19 PM

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N810 is here

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
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Oct 17, 2007, 12:28 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and
maemoapps.comas well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on
flickr - user atmasphere

On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <alan [at] blog-city> wrote:
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> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
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alan at blog-city

Oct 17, 2007, 12:32 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

and?!?!!?! :@)

whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt
the keyboard that is!)

and when will it available in Europe?

Jonathan Greene wrote:
> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp
> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as
> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere
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laurent at gide

Oct 17, 2007, 12:33 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

> Subject: N810 is here
... but where is ITOS2008?! I definitely want to install it on my
*old* N800...
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atmasphere at atmasphere

Oct 17, 2007, 12:35 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

wen the device arrives in final form it should be there as well. 4-5
weeks...

On 10/17/07, Laurent MARTIN <laurent [at] gide> wrote:
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> Subject: N810 is here
>
> ... but where is ITOS2008?! I definitely want to install it on my *old*
> N800...
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dmg at uvic

Oct 17, 2007, 12:36 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on
Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere

Any idea when/how I can get one (I am in Canada)?

--daniel

Jonathan> On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <alan [at] blog-city> wrote:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
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Oct 17, 2007, 12:39 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

no idea guys ... a least a month away.

On 10/17/07, Daniel M German <dmg [at] uvic> wrote:
>
>
> Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and
> maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on
> Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere
>
> Any idea when/how I can get one (I am in Canada)?
>
> --daniel
>
> Jonathan> On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <alan [at] blog-city> wrote:
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
> --
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>
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marius at pov

Oct 17, 2007, 12:40 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:19:36PM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/

Slight inaccuracies: 256MB ROM is really the same 256MB flash that you
use to install apps; the USB connector is micro USB, slightly smaller
than mini USB. Also it doesn't mention that instead of two full-size SD
card slots you get one mini-SD card slot (plus an internal 2GB "memory
card" that you can't pull out and replace).

It's more an alternative to a N800 than an upgrade; for those who wanted
a built-in hardware keyboard.

Still, built-in GPS... Want.

Marius Gedminas
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Oct 17, 2007, 12:42 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Wow, still no OGG.... when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
about AAC, give us OGG.

On 10/17/07, Jonathan Greene <atmasphere [at] atmasphere> wrote:
> no idea guys ... a least a month away.
>
>
> On 10/17/07, Daniel M German <dmg [at] uvic> wrote:
> >
> > Jonathan> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp and
> maemoapps.com as well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on
> > Jonathan> flickr - user atmasphere
> >
> > Any idea when/how I can get one (I am in Canada)?
> >
> > --daniel
> >
> > Jonathan> On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <alan [at] blog-city > wrote:
> >
> >
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
> > --
> > Alan Williamson
> > "a wiki -and- a blog" @ http://www.Blog-City.com/
> >
> > b: http://alan.blog-city.com/
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> >
> > Jonathan> --
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> http://www.maemoapps.com
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marius at pov

Oct 17, 2007, 12:49 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:42:17PM -0500, Kahlil Johnson wrote:
> Wow, still no OGG.... when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
> about AAC, give us OGG.

I've heard rumours are Nokia won't ever include ogg support because
they're scared of the (supposedly nonexistent) patents (and that after
lobbying hard to make software patents lawful in the EU; which,
thanfully, didn't happen).

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Oct 17, 2007, 12:50 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Jonathan,

who cares about the keyboard....................is the Nokia carrying
case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)?

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

*Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and
emerging network service provider markets*

* *

Alan Williamson wrote:
> and?!?!!?! :@)
>
> whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt
> the keyboard that is!)
>
> and when will it available in Europe?
>
> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>
>> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp
>> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as
>> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> maemo-users [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>
>

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farrisg at cc

Oct 17, 2007, 1:27 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 14:42 -0500, Kahlil Johnson wrote:
> Wow, still no OGG.... when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
> about AAC, give us OGG.

Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800?
No OGG is just plain weird, yup.

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sergey.udaltsov at gmail

Oct 17, 2007, 1:44 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Will there be developer's device program, like for n800?

Cheers,

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rajesh at cct

Oct 17, 2007, 2:03 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Now - Carrying case!, That one I need too. Are there any Vegan ( non -
leather carrying cases ) for N800 ? Thats one thing I need very bad :(.

Thanks

Rajesh

Acadia Secure Networks wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> who cares about the keyboard....................is the Nokia carrying
> case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and
> emerging network service provider markets*
>
> * *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alan Williamson wrote:
>
>> and?!?!!?! :@)
>>
>> whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt
>> the keyboard that is!)
>>
>> and when will it available in Europe?
>>
>> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>
>>
>>> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp
>>> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as
>>> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-users mailing list
>> maemo-users [at] maemo
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>>
>>
>>
>
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collin at betaversion

Oct 17, 2007, 2:18 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

> Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800?
> No OGG is just plain weird, yup.

OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and
other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also
this won't utilize the DSP).

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Oct 17, 2007, 2:44 PM

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>> Did they leave the FM radio in? I really like that feature on my n800?
>> No OGG is just plain weird, yup.
>
> OGG is only a nerd feature and also has other problems, so Nokia (and
> other companies) just don't care. Maybe somebody can make a plugin (also
> this won't utilize the DSP).

Which "other problems" do you refer to?

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alan at blog-city

Oct 17, 2007, 2:58 PM

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Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!? [In reply to]

read this on http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1160660

"No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback"

how on earth are they getting that!??!?! My N800 can barely last 8hrs
on the current battery; so what improves has gone here i wonder

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Oct 17, 2007, 3:06 PM

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Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!? [In reply to]

Alan Williamson wrote:
> read this on http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1160660
>
> "No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback"
>
> how on earth are they getting that!??!?! My N800 can barely last 8hrs
> on the current battery; so what improves has gone here i wonder
>
>
Plug in the AC adapter. ;-)

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Oct 17, 2007, 3:33 PM

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Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!? [In reply to]

I think the 45 hours simply refers to how much music they think you should
be able to fit on the built-in memory (notice it says "No Wi-Fi connection
on your journey? No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music
playback...").

On 10/17/07, Alan Williamson <alan [at] blog-city> wrote:
>
> read this on http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1160660
>
> "No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to 45 hours of music playback"
>
> how on earth are they getting that!??!?! My N800 can barely last 8hrs
> on the current battery; so what improves has gone here i wonder
>
> --
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>
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acadiasecurenets at aol

Oct 17, 2007, 3:59 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

All,

kidding aside, I have to say that, as I would expect from Nokia, if the
product ,once launched, "meets or exceeds spec", then Nokia has indeed
proven itself as a "fast learning organization" with this product by

a) adding some key functional capabilities that those on this list
have "vocalized" during the last two years

and

b) "turning" a significantly updated (faster and better, if not
cheaper) hardware platform in less than 12 months.

It would be nice to know how much longer before the WIMAX version of the
product is released. But, hey, maybe the Intel WIMAX chipset is there in
the 810 and is simply awaiting a future firmware upgrade.

On the other hand, because WIMAX is still somewhat "early days" and,
therefore, balkanized in its deployment around the world, Nokia may be
planning to launch a distinct version for the (increasing number of)
markets that are deploying WIMAX services.

Best Regards,

John Holmblad

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC

* *

*Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and
emerging network service provider markets*

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> Jonathan,
>
> who cares about the keyboard....................is the Nokia carrying
> case for the 810 available (and not just in cyberspace)?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> John Holmblad
>
>
>
> Acadia Secure Networks, LLC
>
> *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and
> emerging network service provider markets*
>
> * *
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Alan Williamson wrote:
>
>> and?!?!!?! :@)
>>
>> whats it like? what has it that the N800 has been begging for? (execpt
>> the keyboard that is!)
>>
>> and when will it available in Europe?
>>
>> Jonathan Greene wrote:
>>
>>
>>> it's in my pocket! a few videos here - atmasphere.net/wp
>>> <http://atmasphere.net/wp> and maemoapps.com <http://maemoapps.com> as
>>> well as some poorly shot pics I raced to post on flickr - user atmasphere
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-users mailing list
>> maemo-users [at] maemo
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
>>
>>
>>
>
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gopiballava at gmail

Oct 17, 2007, 4:00 PM

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Re: N810 is here: 45hrs!?!? [In reply to]

On Oct 17, 2007, at 6:33 PM, David Leinbach wrote:

> I think the 45 hours simply refers to how much music they think you
> should be able to fit on the built-in memory (notice it says "No Wi-
> Fi connection on your journey? No need, the Nokia N810 offers up to
> 45 hours of music playback...").

Here's a quick chart of battery capacities:

iPhone: 24h of music, 1.4 Ah battery: 17h / Ah
(17 hours per amp-hour)

iPod Shuffle: 12h of music, 0.22 Ah battery: 55h / Ah

Potential:
Nokia N810: 45h of music, 1.5 Ah battery: 30h / Ah

I think those numbers make it clear that 45 hours of music-only
direct from flash is somewhat plausible. I'm sure it would require
very careful hardware and software integration, of course, but it
could be done.

Thanks,

gopi.

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john at rudd

Oct 17, 2007, 6:01 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Kahlil Johnson wrote:
> Wow, still no OGG.... when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
> about AAC, give us OGG.

Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
remotely care about OGG?

Or is this one of those "you absolutely need it for interesting content
in Europe, but it's absolutely useless for content in the Americas" type
situations?
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hendrik at topoi

Oct 17, 2007, 9:20 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:19:36PM +0100, Alan Williamson wrote:
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/17/nokia-n810-gets-official/
> --
Can it listen to a (self-powered) USB keyboard?

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bill at cse

Oct 17, 2007, 9:46 PM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Can the n810 be powered by usb?
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krischan.keitsch at alumni

Oct 18, 2007, 12:38 AM

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Re: N810 is here [In reply to]

Am Donnerstag, 18. Oktober 2007 schrieb John Rudd:
> Kahlil Johnson wrote:
> > Wow, still no OGG.... when will maemo people ever learn. Who cares
> > about AAC, give us OGG.
>
> Huh. I have many AAC files. I have no OGG files. Why should even
> remotely care about OGG?
>
> Or is this one of those "you absolutely need it for interesting content
> in Europe, but it's absolutely useless for content in the Americas" type
> situations?

<confused>
???

Sorry John, I didn't get your point. What does ogg support have to do with
Europe / America?

</confused>

However, we can't have enough codex, eh?
Just my 0.02 €

Krischan

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