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anidel at gmail

Nov 2, 2009, 6:01 AM

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Xournal and Volume keys

Hi,

Some people are complaining that Xournal does not intercept Volume
Up/Down to actually zoom in/out
a note.
(I will make it configurable, but I want to discuss this a bit).

I believe that, by default, those key should be left to where they
belong, Volume settings.
Indeed, that's also the design decision take for Ovi Maps [1].
They already provide huge +/- keys on the screen while Xournal uses
the keys 'i' and 'o'
(as in Zoom 'I'n/'O'ut).

What are your thoughts about this?

I do know that Photos and Browser use those to zoom in/out, but
shouldn't those provide
alternative ways of zoom in/out (like the browser zoom gesture)
instead of stealing the hardware keys
from the Volume adjustment ?

The +/- keys MAINLY set the volume (i.e. Desktop, Media player, Maps,
Lock screen and so on) and does
something else in Photos, Browser and few others.

Wouldn't it make more sense to leave then to the Volume? So that its
use would be consistent everywhere ?

I think that someone (may be me.. uhm.. don't remember) raised this
issue in Maemo < 5 already.

Anyway.. what do you think?

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anidel at gmail

Nov 2, 2009, 6:07 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

Sorry forgot the reference [1]:

[1] https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5387

2009/11/2 Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail>:
> Hi,
>
> Some people are complaining that Xournal does not intercept Volume
> Up/Down to actually zoom in/out
> a note.
> (I will make it configurable, but I want to discuss this a bit).
>
> I believe that, by default, those key should be left to where they
> belong, Volume settings.
> Indeed, that's also the design decision take for Ovi Maps [1].
> They already provide huge +/- keys on the screen while Xournal uses
> the keys 'i' and 'o'
> (as in Zoom 'I'n/'O'ut).
>
> What are your thoughts about this?
>
> I do know that Photos and Browser use those to zoom in/out, but
> shouldn't those provide
> alternative ways of zoom in/out (like the browser zoom gesture)
> instead of stealing the hardware keys
> from the Volume adjustment ?
>
> The +/- keys MAINLY set the volume (i.e. Desktop, Media player, Maps,
> Lock screen and so on) and does
> something else in Photos, Browser and few others.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to leave then to the Volume? So that its
> use would be consistent everywhere ?
>
> I think that someone (may be me.. uhm.. don't remember) raised this
> issue in Maemo < 5 already.
>
> Anyway.. what do you think?
>
> --
> anidel
> Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom
>

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anidel at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 3:31 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

No hints on this?

How can I intercept the Volume +/- keys in Maemo 5?

Aniello

2009/11/2 Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail>:
> Sorry forgot the reference [1]:
>
> [1] https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5387
>
> 2009/11/2 Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some people are complaining that Xournal does not intercept Volume
>> Up/Down to actually zoom in/out
>> a note.
>> (I will make it configurable, but I want to discuss this a bit).
>>
>> I believe that, by default, those key should be left to where they
>> belong, Volume settings.
>> Indeed, that's also the design decision take for Ovi Maps [1].
>> They already provide huge +/- keys on the screen while Xournal uses
>> the keys 'i' and 'o'
>> (as in Zoom 'I'n/'O'ut).
>>
>> What are your thoughts about this?
>>
>> I do know that Photos and Browser use those to zoom in/out, but
>> shouldn't those provide
>> alternative ways of zoom in/out (like the browser zoom gesture)
>> instead of stealing the hardware keys
>> from the Volume adjustment ?
>>
>> The +/- keys MAINLY set the volume (i.e. Desktop, Media player, Maps,
>> Lock screen and so on) and does
>> something else in Photos, Browser and few others.
>>
>> Wouldn't it make more sense to leave then to the Volume? So that its
>> use would be consistent everywhere ?
>>
>> I think that someone (may be me.. uhm.. don't remember) raised this
>> issue in Maemo < 5 already.
>>
>> Anyway.. what do you think?
>>
>> --
>> anidel
>> Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom
>>
>
>
>
> --
> anidel
> Sent from London, Eng, United Kingdom
>

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trippin1 at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 3:37 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail> wrote:
> No hints on this?
>
> How can I intercept the Volume +/- keys in Maemo 5?
Follow 1.7 on http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Porting_Software/Porting_Existing_GTK%2B_Application_to_Maemo_5
which tells you how to set the required atom to have control over the
+/- buttons. After that, just listen to "key-press-event" as normal.

Personally, I do think the zoom keys should be used for control of the
application, if the application would benefit from the use of them.
The PDF Viewer, for example, uses them. :)
>
> Aniello

Best Regards,
Faheem
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anidel at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 3:53 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

2009/11/6 Faheem Pervez <trippin1 [at] gmail>:
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail> wrote:
>> No hints on this?
>>
>> How can I intercept the Volume +/- keys in Maemo 5?
> Follow 1.7 on http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Porting_Software/Porting_Existing_GTK%2B_Application_to_Maemo_5
> which tells you how to set the required atom to have control over the
> +/- buttons. After that, just listen to "key-press-event" as normal.
>
Ah! There it is!!
I remember I've seen it, but couldn't find it... Thanks a lot :)

> Personally, I do think the zoom keys should be used for control of the
> application, if the application would benefit from the use of them.
> The PDF Viewer, for example, uses them. :)

The "personally" part convinced me to make it configurable :)
I personally think it should not, it make the keys' usage inconsistent
and I always liked global "keys" for Volume/Media.

The Volume Keys are already incosistent, if you are in landscape mode
the + is the right most one, while if you are in portrait mode
(e.g. in a Call), then the + becomes the left most one.
Makes sense in Call as the + key should be the top one, but in
portrait they could've stick with it instead of swapping them.

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marius.vollmer at nokia

Nov 6, 2009, 7:23 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

ext Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail> writes:

> The Volume Keys are already incosistent, if you are in landscape mode
> the + is the right most one, while if you are in portrait mode
> (e.g. in a Call), then the + becomes the left most one.
> Makes sense in Call as the + key should be the top one, but in
> portrait they could've stick with it instead of swapping them.

The explanation for this is that in landscape mode, the volume slider
increases to the right, and it would unintuitive if it would move to the
right when you hit the left key.
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anidel at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 11:39 AM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

2009/11/6 Marius Vollmer <marius.vollmer [at] nokia>:
> ext Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail> writes:
>
>> The Volume Keys are already incosistent, if you are in landscape mode
>> the + is the right most one, while if you are in portrait mode
>> (e.g. in a Call), then the + becomes the left most one.
>> Makes sense in Call as the + key should be the top one, but in
>> portrait they could've stick with it instead of swapping them.
>
> The explanation for this is that in landscape mode, the volume slider
> increases to the right, and it would unintuitive if it would move to the
> right when you hit the left key.
>

Uhm...make the volume slider increase to the left ?

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rabelg5 at gmail

Nov 6, 2009, 6:22 PM

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Re: Xournal and Volume keys [In reply to]

On Nov 6, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Aniello Del Sorbo wrote:

> 2009/11/6 Marius Vollmer <marius.vollmer [at] nokia>:
>
>> ext Aniello Del Sorbo <anidel [at] gmail> writes:
>>
>>> The Volume Keys are already incosistent, if you are in landscape
>>> mode
>>> the + is the right most one, while if you are in portrait mode
>>> (e.g. in a Call), then the + becomes the left most one.
>>> Makes sense in Call as the + key should be the top one, but in
>>> portrait they could've stick with it instead of swapping them.
>>
>> The explanation for this is that in landscape mode, the volume slider
>> increases to the right, and it would unintuitive if it would move
>> to the
>> right when you hit the left key.
>
> Uhm...make the volume slider increase to the left ?

That would make as little sense as the bottom increasing volume in
portrait. This is the behavior used on several other platforms, too.
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