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amit.pureenergy at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 9:55 PM

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Maemo at FOSS.IN 2009 , Bangalore , India

Hi , I had sent a proposal to Foss.in, an annual conference that happens in
Bangalore, India every year(supposed to be India's largest FOSS conference )
.This has been approved and I am being given a chance to talk about maemo in
one of the main sessions. Essentially the purpose for this was to create
awareness among Indian Foss community about maemo and what it offers as a
development environment . The basic points that I wish to talk about at the
conference are :

1.Benefits of developing for maemo5
->open (How open though? )
->Very debian like environment
->Services offered (How things are different? like I think
maemo does not use gpsd for gps based services)
-> you can develop in python ... yeah!!!!
-> Economic Benefits how does one monetize his work for
maemo
2. Options for Linux based mobile development
3. Forward path for maemo (like shifting to qt)
-> As far as I would think shifting to qt might help in
porting maemo applications to symbian platform . Is that correct? Other
suggestions for this

4. Maemo5 vs Iphone as a develop environment , A comparison?
Ofcourse as I see their are definite economic benefits to
working on maemo5 , you can use your normal ubuntu distro and developers do
not have to pay.

It would be great if I could get references that the community knows or
other cc licensed presentations on this (perhaps from this years maemo
summit) that touch these topics .Also please do give comments to make this
presentation better.

Also it would help to know when we may see n900 in Indian markets if ever?
;)

My own background: I was gsoc developer this year for maemo mentored by
Valerio Valerio . I was really excited by the maemo experince and wanted to
pass it on .

P.S I would also ask anyone near the subcontinent during first week of
December to join the party in Bangalore.
--
A-M-I-T S|S

kamal3501 at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 10:40 PM

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Re: Maemo at FOSS.IN 2009 , Bangalore , India [In reply to]

Hey Amit,

Kool .Nokia is also organizing Devcon an event in Bangalore in December .

Details:http://www.nokiadevcon.in/

Maemo would be gr8 there .

Cheers
Kamal

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Amit Sethi <amit.pureenergy[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi , I had sent a proposal to Foss.in, an annual conference that happens in
> Bangalore, India every year(supposed to be India's largest FOSS conference )
> .This has been approved and I am being given a chance to talk about maemo in
> one of the main sessions. Essentially the purpose for this was to create
> awareness among Indian Foss community about maemo and what it offers as a
> development environment . The basic points that I wish to talk about at the
> conference are :
>
> 1.Benefits of developing for maemo5
>                 ->open (How open though? )
>                 ->Very debian like environment
>                 ->Services offered (How things are different? like I think
> maemo does not use gpsd for gps based services)
>                 -> you can develop in python ... yeah!!!!
>                  -> Economic Benefits how does one monetize his work for
> maemo
> 2. Options for Linux based mobile development
> 3. Forward path for maemo (like shifting to qt)
>                  -> As far as I would think shifting to qt might help in
> porting maemo applications to symbian platform . Is that correct? Other
> suggestions for this
>
> 4. Maemo5 vs Iphone as a develop environment , A comparison?
>                   Ofcourse as I see their are definite economic benefits to
> working on maemo5 , you can use your normal ubuntu distro and developers do
> not have to pay.
>
> It would be great if I could get references that the community knows or
> other cc licensed presentations on this (perhaps from this years maemo
> summit) that touch these topics .Also please do give comments to make this
> presentation better.
>
> Also it would help to know when we may see n900 in Indian markets if ever?
> ;)
>
>
> My own background: I was gsoc developer this year for maemo mentored by
> Valerio Valerio . I was really excited by the maemo experince and wanted to
> pass it on .
>
> P.S I would also ask anyone near the subcontinent during first week of
> December to join the party in Bangalore.
> --
> A-M-I-T S|S
>
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dneary at maemo

Nov 5, 2009, 3:25 AM

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Re: Maemo at FOSS.IN 2009 , Bangalore , India [In reply to]

Hi Amit,

Amit Sethi wrote:
> This has been approved and I am being given a chance to talk about
> maemo in one of the main sessions.

That's great news!

> Essentially the purpose for this was
> to create awareness among Indian Foss community about maemo and what it
> offers as a development environment . The basic points that I wish to
> talk about at the conference are :
>
> 1.Benefits of developing for maemo5
> 2. Options for Linux based mobile development
> 3. Forward path for maemo (like shifting to qt)
> 4. Maemo5 vs Iphone as a develop environment , A comparison?
>
> It would be great if I could get references that the community knows or
> other cc licensed presentations on this (perhaps from this years maemo
> summit) that touch these topics .Also please do give comments to make
> this presentation better.

I think it's a nice start - as I suggested at the Maemo summit
http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2009/10/10/giving-great-presentations-speaker-notes/
I suggest that you structure it as a narrative, with a clear central
*attendee-focussed* point going through the lot.

The goal of your presentation, you say, is to create awareness about
Maemo and what it offers. That's currently a Maemo-focussed (or
presenter-focussed) goal. How about reformulating your goal as "to
encourage attendees to become members of the Maemo community"? This may
seem like semantics, but this goal allows you to structure the
information you want to share differently, and suggests other key
benefits to present.

So slightly adjusting your points, you have:

1. What is Maemo?
- Open development platform, sponsored by Nokia
- Complete OS for phone & internet tablet devices
- Community of developers and enthusiasts
- A word on versions - Fremantle, and Harmattan announced plans
2. Why should I care? (Not another platform???)
- Social benefits of working with an open platform (wide distribution,
street cred, you'll have fun)
- You get to change the way your phone works! Co-creation & third party
apps - show off some examples of innovative Maemo apps
- Economic benefits of open platforms and services for application
developers (Ovi)
- Comparison with iPhone and Android
3. What can I do?
- Getting involved at maemo.org
- Workgroups (docs, packages, council, forums)
- Working with the Maemo platform (a 2 minute overview in getting a
Maemo development environment set up - point to a web resource, mention
Scratchbox, cross-compiling and using Xephyr for local emulation)
- Adapting your application for Maemo (point to the user interface
guidelines)
- Publishing your application (maemo.nokia.com, extras, extras-testing)

This gives you the chance to touch on all the points you're interested
in, while having a nice thread running through it.

I'd spend less time on the "what is Maemo" bit and most of the time on
"why should I care?" and "what can I do?", perhaps.

> My own background: I was gsoc developer this year for maemo mentored by
> Valerio Valerio . I was really excited by the maemo experince and wanted
> to pass it on .
>
> P.S I would also ask anyone near the subcontinent during first week of
> December to join the party in Bangalore.

In the "what can I do?" part of the presentation, this could be a great
story to tell - your experiences meeting the Maemo comm project you
worked on, the community support you got, and so on.

Good luck! I hope it goes well.

Cheers,
Dave.

--
maemo.org docsmaster
Email: dneary[at]maemo.org
Jabber: bolsh[at]jabber.org

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jeremiah at jeremiahfoster

Nov 5, 2009, 5:03 AM

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Re: Maemo at FOSS.IN 2009 , Bangalore , India [In reply to]

On Nov 5, 2009, at 12:25, Dave Neary wrote:

> Hi Amit,
>
> Amit Sethi wrote:
>> This has been approved and I am being given a chance to talk about
>> maemo in one of the main sessions.
>
> That's great news!

+1

>> Essentially the purpose for this was
>> to create awareness among Indian Foss community about maemo and
>> what it
>> offers as a development environment . The basic points that I wish to
>> talk about at the conference are :
>>
>> 1. Benefits of developing for maemo5
>> 2. Options for Linux based mobile development
>> 3. Forward path for maemo (like shifting to qt)
>> 4. Maemo5 vs Iphone as a develop environment , A comparison?
>>
>> It would be great if I could get references that the community
>> knows or
>> other cc licensed presentations on this (perhaps from this years
>> maemo
>> summit) that touch these topics. Also please do give comments to make
>> this presentation better.
>
> I think it's a nice start - as I suggested at the Maemo summit
> http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2009/10/10/giving-great-presentations-speaker-notes/
> I suggest that you structure it as a narrative, with a clear central
> *attendee-focussed* point going through the lot.
>
> The goal of your presentation, you say, is to create awareness about
> Maemo and what it offers. That's currently a Maemo-focussed (or
> presenter-focussed) goal. How about reformulating your goal as "to
> encourage attendees to become members of the Maemo community"? This
> may
> seem like semantics, but this goal allows you to structure the
> information you want to share differently, and suggests other key
> benefits to present.
>
> So slightly adjusting your points, you have:
>
> 1. What is Maemo?

- Debian-derived GNU/Linux mobile computer
> - Open development platform, sponsored by Nokia
> - Complete OS for phone & internet tablet devices
> - Community of developers and enthusiasts
> - A word on versions - Fremantle, and Harmattan announced plans
> 2. Why should I care? (Not another platform???)
- Because it is derived from debian, there are potentially tens of
thousands of applications already written that can be ported to the
Maemo platform.
- Since it is GNU/Linux you already have a working operating
system, this means you can bring your applications to your users
faster since you don't have to re-invent the wheel.
> - Social benefits of working with an open platform (wide distribution,
> street cred, you'll have fun)
> - You get to change the way your phone works! Co-creation & third
> party
> apps - show off some examples of innovative Maemo apps
> - Economic benefits of open platforms and services for application
> developers (Ovi)
> - Comparison with iPhone and Android
- Maemo is the most open development platform for mobile devices
- Ovi will allow you to sell services and code to the maemo platform
> 3. What can I do?
> - Getting involved at maemo.org
> - Workgroups (docs, packages, council, forums)
> - Working with the Maemo platform (a 2 minute overview in getting a
> Maemo development environment set up - point to a web resource,
> mention
> Scratchbox, cross-compiling and using Xephyr for local emulation)
> - Adapting your application for Maemo (point to the user interface
> guidelines)
> - Publishing your application (maemo.nokia.com, extras, extras-
> testing)
- Porting an application from upstream (i.e. debian or ubuntu) to
maemo

I would emphasize the openness of the platform, especially since you
are at a FOSS conference. It is much more open for development
compared to the iPhone and Android in the technical sense; both
Android and iPhone cannot just run a deb from upstream, whereas it is
often trivially easy to port apps from debian.

Jeremiah
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