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quim.gil at nokia

Oct 22, 2009, 5:31 AM

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extras-testing QA checklist (proposal)

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist

Feedback please. This checklist is common for developers (before
promnoting their applications to extras-testing) and betatesters (before
giving them farewell to reach Extras).

It would be good to have more specific instructions to measure
performace and power management, since sometimes the problems are not
obvious specially in only one session or even a couple of days of casual
testing.

This has been posted at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=355270 as
well.

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andrew at bleb

Oct 22, 2009, 6:00 AM

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Re: extras-testing QA checklist (proposal) [In reply to]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 13:31, Quim Gil <quim.gil [at] nokia> wrote:
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing/QA_Checklist
>
> Feedback please. This checklist is common for developers (before
> promnoting their applications to extras-testing) and betatesters (before
> giving them farewell to reach Extras).

The first half doesn't seem to be a checklist - but an introduction to
"Extras Testing". Testers (and developers) should have short bullet
points - perhaps even a table?

It does seem to be a good document for an *introduction* to QA &
testing, but I wouldn't say it was the checklist itself. Does that
make sense?

Cheers,

Andrew

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maemo at csipa

Oct 23, 2009, 3:29 PM

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Re: extras-testing QA checklist (proposal) [In reply to]

On Thursday 22 October 2009 14:31:38 Quim Gil wrote:
>> Feedback please. This checklist is common for developers (before
>> promnoting their applications to extras-testing) and betatesters (before
>> giving them farewell to reach Extras).
>
>Lack of bug reporting database
>
>http://bugs.maemo.org is the preferred option. Otherwise it needs to be
>identified in the http://maemo.org/packages/ page.

As you might have noticed :) I ran into this one myself, so (after a short
chat with GA on irc) I'd like to clarify a few things, potentially of interest
to other folks in -testing, too:

Is bugs.maemo.org really the preferred option ? There is no visible automatic,
or user level registration of projects there, nor clear guidelines how to
register a projects with b.m.o. According to GA, the process includes manual
intervention and there is also no grouping (by Maemo categories), so it has
great potential to get messy when projects start to migrate en masse to -
testing. Opening a product for 'mirror', a one-liner script, for example,
seems like a huge overkill.

If we forego b.m.o, how do we identify this on the alternatively suggested
packages page ? Again, I found no apparent way of entering such information on
the page, nor wiki guideline (surely we don't want that sort of things stuffed
into package descriptions?).

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vdv100 at gmail

Oct 23, 2009, 5:37 PM

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Re: extras-testing QA checklist (proposal) [In reply to]

Hi,

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Attila Csipa <maemo [at] csipa> wrote:

> On Thursday 22 October 2009 14:31:38 Quim Gil wrote:
> >> Feedback please. This checklist is common for developers (before
> >> promnoting their applications to extras-testing) and betatesters (before
> >> giving them farewell to reach Extras).
> >
> >Lack of bug reporting database
> >
> >http://bugs.maemo.org is the preferred option. Otherwise it needs to be
> >identified in the http://maemo.org/packages/ page.
>
> As you might have noticed :) I ran into this one myself, so (after a short
> chat with GA on irc) I'd like to clarify a few things, potentially of
> interest
> to other folks in -testing, too:
>
> Is bugs.maemo.org really the preferred option ? There is no visible
> automatic,
> or user level registration of projects there, nor clear guidelines how to
> register a projects with b.m.o.

A bit hidden, but: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products

> According to GA, the process includes manual
> intervention and there is also no grouping (by Maemo categories), so it has
> great potential to get messy when projects start to migrate en masse to -
> testing. Opening a product for 'mirror', a one-liner script, for example,
> seems like a huge overkill.
>
> If we forego b.m.o, how do we identify this on the alternatively suggested
> packages page ?

In your package debian/control file add: Xsbc-Bugtracker:
bugtracker_web_address

HTH

Best regards,

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Again, I found no apparent way of entering such information on
> the page, nor wiki guideline (surely we don't want that sort of things
> stuffed
> into package descriptions?).
>
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maemo at csipa

Oct 24, 2009, 3:17 AM

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Re: extras-testing QA checklist (proposal) [In reply to]

On Saturday 24 October 2009 02:37:33 Valerio Valerio wrote:
> > If we forego b.m.o, how do we identify this on the alternatively
> > suggested packages page ?
>
> In your package debian/control file add: Xsbc-Bugtracker:
> bugtracker_web_address

Hm, I did that, the .deb *does* contain the Bugtracker: field, however, at the
package page, it is not listed (also missing seems to be the homepage field,
but that's a different matter). See
http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-
devel_free_armel/mirror/2.0-2 Time to poke Niels ? :)

> > Is bugs.maemo.org really the preferred option ? There is no visible
> > automatic,
> > or user level registration of projects there, nor clear guidelines how to
> > register a projects with b.m.o.
>
> A bit hidden, but: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products

Ah, I was hunting for Category:Bugzilla and Bugzilla in general so it didn't
quite come up on top of the results :)

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vdv100 at gmail

Oct 24, 2009, 1:30 PM

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Re: extras-testing QA checklist (proposal) [In reply to]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Attila Csipa <maemo [at] csipa> wrote:
>
> On Saturday 24 October 2009 02:37:33 Valerio Valerio wrote:
> > > If we forego b.m.o, how do we identify this on the alternatively
> > > suggested packages page ?
> >
> > In your package debian/control file add: Xsbc-Bugtracker:
> > bugtracker_web_address
>
> Hm, I did that, the .deb *does* contain the Bugtracker: field, however, at the
> package page, it is not listed (also missing seems to be the homepage field,
> but that's a different matter). See
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-
> devel_free_armel/mirror/2.0-2 Time to poke Niels ? :)

try to put the bugtracker field below the package name (you have it in
the 'source' section), Above/below "XB-Maemo-Display-Name:" for
example.

HTH

Best regards,

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http://www.valeriovalerio.org

>
> > > Is bugs.maemo.org really the preferred option ? There is no visible
> > > automatic,
> > > or user level registration of projects there, nor clear guidelines how to
> > > register a projects with b.m.o.
> >
> > A bit hidden, but: http://wiki.maemo.org/Bugs:Adding_Extra_products
>
> Ah, I was hunting for Category:Bugzilla and Bugzilla in general so it didn't
> quite come up on top of the results :)
>
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