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twilight312 at gmail

May 24, 2012, 11:51 AM

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Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program

I would like to personally thank everyone participating in Council
election - people voting, candidates, and, finally, elected
Councilors.

Especially thanks for people involving in starting voting - thanks for
help X-Fade, Qgil and others!
---

Now, as 6 months isn't long period, and we have *much* work to do,
I'll go straight to merit:

1. I would like organize Council meeting (IRC) with people that are
working on COBS, during next week. Generally, 18 UTC and later was
proposed during working days. Dear COBS volunteers, could You write
about Your availability, so we could choose best time&date? Also, I
would like to make contact list of people working on COBS
(independently from meeting).

2. Qgil - as one of device seeding category is to be organized by
Council (community Awards), I got some questions:

a) How much devices we can have available for Community Awards? As
it's one of four categories, and You've written about 40 N950's and 60
N9's, I though about 10 N950's and 15 N9's.

Honestly, amount is quite low - especially, considering that it's
first time we're going to have Community Awards (would refer to it as
CA), while things like Coding Competition happen every year. If it's
possible to submit more devices to Community Awards (either additional
devices, or moving them from QT5/Nokia Store), it would help for sure,
as there are many people deserving it. Something like 15 N950's and 20
N9's would be sufficient, IMO.

Of course, if it's not possible, we're still thankful for having
devices at all :)

b) Few weeks ago, I've asked about situation, when Councilor (or
candidate for Council) is going to submit for device from CA program,
while Council is body that choose winners. It was meet with positive
reply from mailing list - generally, there was no problem with it -
some, as timoph, suggested that Council members should receive device,
because they've contributed much already (or they wouldn't be
choosen). Other suggested, that it's absolutely ok to submit for
device, but such councilor should not take part in deciding who will
get device.

While Council appreciate what timoph said, way with Councilors
applying for devices being out of deciding winners sounds most
reasonable for Council. Ho ever, it seems thatn 4/5 of current Council
will apply for device (Woody isn't going to submit)

Current Council proposition to workaround this "problem", is that
Woody *and* Council chair will decide about CA winners (while Council
chair also apply for device - we will choose chair tomorrow). Is it ok
with You, qgil? After all, you're providing devices ;)

/Estel
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nybauer at gmail

May 25, 2012, 1:09 AM

Post #2 of 5 (86 views)
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Re: Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program [In reply to]

COBS people are X-Fade, javispedro, timoph, lbt (to some extent). I
suggest joining their meeting rather than asking them to check in with
available times for a new meeting.

On community awards, there is a history of council awarding themselves
maemo conference sponsorships, etc. I don't see device awards as much
different (except that device should not be given to somebody who already
has one). QGil has already indicated on the forum I believe that the
community can decide how to do community awards.

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Piotr Jawidzyk <twilight312 [at] gmail>wrote:

> I would like to personally thank everyone participating in Council
> election - people voting, candidates, and, finally, elected
> Councilors.
>
> Especially thanks for people involving in starting voting - thanks for
> help X-Fade, Qgil and others!
> ---
>
> Now, as 6 months isn't long period, and we have *much* work to do,
> I'll go straight to merit:
>
> 1. I would like organize Council meeting (IRC) with people that are
> working on COBS, during next week. Generally, 18 UTC and later was
> proposed during working days. Dear COBS volunteers, could You write
> about Your availability, so we could choose best time&date? Also, I
> would like to make contact list of people working on COBS
> (independently from meeting).
>
> 2. Qgil - as one of device seeding category is to be organized by
> Council (community Awards), I got some questions:
>
> a) How much devices we can have available for Community Awards? As
> it's one of four categories, and You've written about 40 N950's and 60
> N9's, I though about 10 N950's and 15 N9's.
>
> Honestly, amount is quite low - especially, considering that it's
> first time we're going to have Community Awards (would refer to it as
> CA), while things like Coding Competition happen every year. If it's
> possible to submit more devices to Community Awards (either additional
> devices, or moving them from QT5/Nokia Store), it would help for sure,
> as there are many people deserving it. Something like 15 N950's and 20
> N9's would be sufficient, IMO.
>
> Of course, if it's not possible, we're still thankful for having
> devices at all :)
>
> b) Few weeks ago, I've asked about situation, when Councilor (or
> candidate for Council) is going to submit for device from CA program,
> while Council is body that choose winners. It was meet with positive
> reply from mailing list - generally, there was no problem with it -
> some, as timoph, suggested that Council members should receive device,
> because they've contributed much already (or they wouldn't be
> choosen). Other suggested, that it's absolutely ok to submit for
> device, but such councilor should not take part in deciding who will
> get device.
>
> While Council appreciate what timoph said, way with Councilors
> applying for devices being out of deciding winners sounds most
> reasonable for Council. Ho ever, it seems thatn 4/5 of current Council
> will apply for device (Woody isn't going to submit)
>
> Current Council proposition to workaround this "problem", is that
> Woody *and* Council chair will decide about CA winners (while Council
> chair also apply for device - we will choose chair tomorrow). Is it ok
> with You, qgil? After all, you're providing devices ;)
>
> /Estel
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>


timop.harkonen at gmail

May 25, 2012, 2:23 AM

Post #3 of 5 (86 views)
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Re: Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program [In reply to]

Yep. please join in. The meetings are held every monday @ 15:00 UTC

wiki task page for the obs work here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_OBS

-Timo

2012/5/25 robert bauer <nybauer [at] gmail>

> COBS people are X-Fade, javispedro, timoph, lbt (to some extent). I
> suggest joining their meeting rather than asking them to check in with
> available times for a new meeting.
>
> On community awards, there is a history of council awarding themselves
> maemo conference sponsorships, etc. I don't see device awards as much
> different (except that device should not be given to somebody who already
> has one). QGil has already indicated on the forum I believe that the
> community can decide how to do community awards.
>
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Piotr Jawidzyk <twilight312 [at] gmail>wrote:
>
>> I would like to personally thank everyone participating in Council
>> election - people voting, candidates, and, finally, elected
>> Councilors.
>>
>> Especially thanks for people involving in starting voting - thanks for
>> help X-Fade, Qgil and others!
>> ---
>>
>> Now, as 6 months isn't long period, and we have *much* work to do,
>> I'll go straight to merit:
>>
>> 1. I would like organize Council meeting (IRC) with people that are
>> working on COBS, during next week. Generally, 18 UTC and later was
>> proposed during working days. Dear COBS volunteers, could You write
>> about Your availability, so we could choose best time&date? Also, I
>> would like to make contact list of people working on COBS
>> (independently from meeting).
>>
>> 2. Qgil - as one of device seeding category is to be organized by
>> Council (community Awards), I got some questions:
>>
>> a) How much devices we can have available for Community Awards? As
>> it's one of four categories, and You've written about 40 N950's and 60
>> N9's, I though about 10 N950's and 15 N9's.
>>
>> Honestly, amount is quite low - especially, considering that it's
>> first time we're going to have Community Awards (would refer to it as
>> CA), while things like Coding Competition happen every year. If it's
>> possible to submit more devices to Community Awards (either additional
>> devices, or moving them from QT5/Nokia Store), it would help for sure,
>> as there are many people deserving it. Something like 15 N950's and 20
>> N9's would be sufficient, IMO.
>>
>> Of course, if it's not possible, we're still thankful for having
>> devices at all :)
>>
>> b) Few weeks ago, I've asked about situation, when Councilor (or
>> candidate for Council) is going to submit for device from CA program,
>> while Council is body that choose winners. It was meet with positive
>> reply from mailing list - generally, there was no problem with it -
>> some, as timoph, suggested that Council members should receive device,
>> because they've contributed much already (or they wouldn't be
>> choosen). Other suggested, that it's absolutely ok to submit for
>> device, but such councilor should not take part in deciding who will
>> get device.
>>
>> While Council appreciate what timoph said, way with Councilors
>> applying for devices being out of deciding winners sounds most
>> reasonable for Council. Ho ever, it seems thatn 4/5 of current Council
>> will apply for device (Woody isn't going to submit)
>>
>> Current Council proposition to workaround this "problem", is that
>> Woody *and* Council chair will decide about CA winners (while Council
>> chair also apply for device - we will choose chair tomorrow). Is it ok
>> with You, qgil? After all, you're providing devices ;)
>>
>> /Estel
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-community mailing list
>> maemo-community [at] maemo
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>
>


quimgil at gmail

May 25, 2012, 11:17 AM

Post #4 of 5 (87 views)
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Re: Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program [In reply to]

Hi (from my personal mailbox since for some reason I don't get all the
emails from this list in my work address (???))

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Piotr Jawidzyk <twilight312 [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2. Qgil - as one of device seeding category is to be organized by
> Council (community Awards), I got some questions:
>
> a) How much devices we can have available for Community Awards? As
> it's one of four categories, and You've written about 40 N950's and 60
> N9's, I though about 10 N950's and 15 N9's.

25 in total, as detailed at http://wiki.maemo.org/Summer%2712_Device_Program

10 N950's and 15 N9's is fine.

>
> Honestly, amount is quite low - especially, considering that it's
> first time we're going to have Community Awards (would refer to it as
> CA), while things like Coding Competition happen every year. If it's
> possible to submit more devices to Community Awards (either additional
> devices, or moving them from QT5/Nokia Store), it would help for sure,
> as there are many people deserving it. Something like 15 N950's and 20
> N9's would be sufficient, IMO.

I would encourage you to find the top 25 first, see what others get
one through the other ongoing activities and then see if someone
really really deserves one beyond any doubt.

Please bring this topic back if/when you have names of contributors in
such situation.

--
Quim
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twilight312 at gmail

May 26, 2012, 4:26 AM

Post #5 of 5 (86 views)
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Re: Post-election and Summer(north)-Winter(south) device program [In reply to]

On pią 25 maj 2012 11:23:52 CEST, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen [at] gmail> wrote:

> Yep. please join in. The meetings are held every monday @ 15:00 UTC
>
> wiki task page for the obs work here:
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_OBS
>
> -Timo

Thanks Timo, Council's representatives will join you during usual meeting. In meantime, if it's possible, please think about any problems/roadblocks/timewasters, that Council could help you with (and is able to).
---

Quim - OK, we will proceed like that.

/Estel

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