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neal at walfield

Apr 27, 2012, 2:12 AM

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stuck packages fixed?

At Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:59 -0400,
robert bauer wrote:
> I became aware that packages were stuck and addressed the qa/promotion
> process a couple months ago -

Can you please summarize how you addressed this? I started this
discussion by suggesting that we lower the karma threshold at which a
package is promoted, but whatever you've done hasn't effect (at least)
one of my packages, which has three thumbs up, two from "testers:"

http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/apt-woodchuck/0.4~20111203/

Thanks,

Neal
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timop.harkonen at gmail

Apr 27, 2012, 2:33 AM

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Re: stuck packages fixed? [In reply to]

Hi

27. huhtikuuta 2012 12.12 Neal H. Walfield <neal [at] walfield> kirjoitti:

> At Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:59 -0400,
> robert bauer wrote:
> > I became aware that packages were stuck and addressed the qa/promotion
> > process a couple months ago -
>
> Can you please summarize how you addressed this? I started this
> discussion by suggesting that we lower the karma threshold at which a
> package is promoted, but whatever you've done hasn't effect (at least)
> one of my packages, which has three thumbs up, two from "testers:"
>
>
I wouldn't say the problem is fixed. There's been some proposals on how to
resolve it but afaik not action yet. Although the tresholds for requires
votes were lowered to iirc 3 votes from testers or 6 otherwise. The main
problem still is not enough people doing testing. The discussion needs to
be resuccerted. I would keep the discussion here and not have in the
testing squad list since this is not only a tester thing.


>
> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/apt-woodchuck/0.4~20111203/
>
>
A bit hard package to test. It isn't very clear how to actually use it. so
I'd guess that's why it hasn't been tested by that many. Anyway, I tried it
and seems there's a missing dependency in the package since apt-woodchuck
command raises a missing import exception (gconf) so I just voted it down.

Thanks

-Timo


> Thanks,
>
> Neal
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nybauer at gmail

Apr 27, 2012, 2:47 AM

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Re: stuck packages fixed? [In reply to]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen [at] gmail>wrote:

> Hi
>
> 27. huhtikuuta 2012 12.12 Neal H. Walfield <neal [at] walfield> kirjoitti:
>
> At Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:59 -0400,
>> robert bauer wrote:
>> > I became aware that packages were stuck and addressed the qa/promotion
>> > process a couple months ago -
>>
>> Can you please summarize how you addressed this? I started this
>> discussion by suggesting that we lower the karma threshold at which a
>> package is promoted, but whatever you've done hasn't effect (at least)
>> one of my packages, which has three thumbs up, two from "testers:"
>>
>>
> I wouldn't say the problem is fixed. There's been some proposals on how to
> resolve it but afaik not action yet. Although the tresholds for requires
> votes were lowered to iirc 3 votes from testers or 6 otherwise. The main
> problem still is not enough people doing testing. The discussion needs to
> be resuccerted. I would keep the discussion here and not have in the
> testing squad list since this is not only a tester thing.
>
>
>>
>> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/apt-woodchuck/0.4~20111203/
>>
>>
> A bit hard package to test. It isn't very clear how to actually use it. so
> I'd guess that's why it hasn't been tested by that many. Anyway, I tried it
> and seems there's a missing dependency in the package since apt-woodchuck
> command raises a missing import exception (gconf) so I just voted it down.
>
> The threshold was lowered so that a single thumbs up from a supertester
and no thumbs down is enough to promote a package. Here is my email on
that:

https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/000169.html

From Timo's comment, there is some confusion which I hope this now helps
with. There is of course the problem that there is a long list of packages
so it will take time. I expect another problem is that the new threshold
may have to be retroactively applied in the case of this package.

In any event, once Timo's issue is addressed, he can change his vote and
the package should be promoted.

Rob


ivgalvez at gmail

Apr 27, 2012, 3:37 AM

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Re: stuck packages fixed? [In reply to]

The other issue is about those packages that have fulfilled the criteria
but, probably due to the long time waiting in the queue, now they are
pending to be pushed by the maintainers

I'm yet pending to prepare a list of "to be promoted packages". My
intention is to gather all the information about status, maintainers and
TMO related threads, and try to contact the developers to promote their
packages. After that, all non promoted packages could be pushed by the a
temporary new maintainer designed by the Council if they don't present any
problem.

But I have had a very busy week, hopefully I could do something more next
week.

Regards.

2012/4/27 robert bauer <nybauer [at] gmail>

>
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen [at] gmail>wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 27. huhtikuuta 2012 12.12 Neal H. Walfield <neal [at] walfield> kirjoitti:
>>
>> At Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:59 -0400,
>>> robert bauer wrote:
>>> > I became aware that packages were stuck and addressed the qa/promotion
>>> > process a couple months ago -
>>>
>>> Can you please summarize how you addressed this? I started this
>>> discussion by suggesting that we lower the karma threshold at which a
>>> package is promoted, but whatever you've done hasn't effect (at least)
>>> one of my packages, which has three thumbs up, two from "testers:"
>>>
>>>
>> I wouldn't say the problem is fixed. There's been some proposals on how
>> to resolve it but afaik not action yet. Although the tresholds for requires
>> votes were lowered to iirc 3 votes from testers or 6 otherwise. The main
>> problem still is not enough people doing testing. The discussion needs to
>> be resuccerted. I would keep the discussion here and not have in the
>> testing squad list since this is not only a tester thing.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/apt-woodchuck/0.4~20111203/
>>>
>>>
>> A bit hard package to test. It isn't very clear how to actually use it.
>> so I'd guess that's why it hasn't been tested by that many. Anyway, I tried
>> it and seems there's a missing dependency in the package since
>> apt-woodchuck command raises a missing import exception (gconf) so I just
>> voted it down.
>>
>> The threshold was lowered so that a single thumbs up from a supertester
> and no thumbs down is enough to promote a package. Here is my email on
> that:
>
> https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/000169.html
>
> From Timo's comment, there is some confusion which I hope this now helps
> with. There is of course the problem that there is a long list of packages
> so it will take time. I expect another problem is that the new threshold
> may have to be retroactively applied in the case of this package.
>
> In any event, once Timo's issue is addressed, he can change his vote and
> the package should be promoted.
>
> Rob
>
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>
>


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timop.harkonen at gmail

Apr 27, 2012, 4:00 AM

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Re: stuck packages fixed? [In reply to]

Hi

27. huhtikuuta 2012 13.37 Iván Gálvez Junquera <ivgalvez [at] gmail>kirjoitti:

> The other issue is about those packages that have fulfilled the criteria
> but, probably due to the long time waiting in the queue, now they are
> pending to be pushed by the maintainers
>
> I'm yet pending to prepare a list of "to be promoted packages". My
> intention is to gather all the information about status, maintainers and
> TMO related threads, and try to contact the developers to promote their
> packages. After that, all non promoted packages could be pushed by the a
> temporary new maintainer designed by the Council if they don't present any
> problem.
>
> But I have had a very busy week, hopefully I could do something more next
> week.
>

I'm planning a similar effort but currently very busy implementing the
devaamo summit hacking challenge and such things. Anyway once you have the
list ready I can also go through it based on your findings.

-Timo


>
> Regards.
>
> 2012/4/27 robert bauer <nybauer [at] gmail>
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Timo Härkönen <timop.harkonen [at] gmail>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 27. huhtikuuta 2012 12.12 Neal H. Walfield <neal [at] walfield>kirjoitti:
>>>
>>> At Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:06:59 -0400,
>>>> robert bauer wrote:
>>>> > I became aware that packages were stuck and addressed the qa/promotion
>>>> > process a couple months ago -
>>>>
>>>> Can you please summarize how you addressed this? I started this
>>>> discussion by suggesting that we lower the karma threshold at which a
>>>> package is promoted, but whatever you've done hasn't effect (at least)
>>>> one of my packages, which has three thumbs up, two from "testers:"
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I wouldn't say the problem is fixed. There's been some proposals on how
>>> to resolve it but afaik not action yet. Although the tresholds for requires
>>> votes were lowered to iirc 3 votes from testers or 6 otherwise. The main
>>> problem still is not enough people doing testing. The discussion needs to
>>> be resuccerted. I would keep the discussion here and not have in the
>>> testing squad list since this is not only a tester thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/apt-woodchuck/0.4~20111203/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> A bit hard package to test. It isn't very clear how to actually use it.
>>> so I'd guess that's why it hasn't been tested by that many. Anyway, I tried
>>> it and seems there's a missing dependency in the package since
>>> apt-woodchuck command raises a missing import exception (gconf) so I just
>>> voted it down.
>>>
>>> The threshold was lowered so that a single thumbs up from a supertester
>> and no thumbs down is enough to promote a package. Here is my email on
>> that:
>>
>>
>> https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/testingsquad-list/2012-March/000169.html
>>
>> From Timo's comment, there is some confusion which I hope this now helps
>> with. There is of course the problem that there is a long list of packages
>> so it will take time. I expect another problem is that the new threshold
>> may have to be retroactively applied in the case of this package.
>>
>> In any event, once Timo's issue is addressed, he can change his vote and
>> the package should be promoted.
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-community mailing list
>> maemo-community [at] maemo
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Iván Gálvez Junquera
>
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>
>


twilight312 at gmail

Apr 28, 2012, 3:39 AM

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Re: stuck packages fixed? [In reply to]

szopin created thread on TMO, where he (and other people) list packages in repositories, that contain roadblock errors (many times for ages, some of them even passed QA). Most of them require only simple fixes, but maintainers are away etc.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83932
---

As for dedvice seeding and typo, now everything is clear :) Of course requiment of account created before 04.2012 - before seeding program was announced - is completely sane. We seems to have enough "oh, they're making give aways!" even without people registered *only* to try getting device.

/Estel

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