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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 8:41 AM

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Who can buy an N9?

No one in the USA or UK can.

Looks like my Maemo/MeeGo dream starts and ends with the N900.

Is there anyone even on this mailing list that is in one of the
countries you can buy one?
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jeremiah at jeremiahfoster

Aug 9, 2011, 8:51 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

On Aug 9, 2011, at 17:41, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

> No one in the USA or UK can.

Not so sure about the UK. I've heard some rumors that some mobile companies in the UK already have pre-orders available.

I do know that Sweden will have it on the 23rd of September.

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ivan.daniluk at gmail

Aug 9, 2011, 9:04 AM

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It is confirmed that sales in Russia begin August 21st.

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vivainio at gmail

Aug 9, 2011, 9:52 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

I guess mailorder won't be too hard either?

Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml> wrote:

>No one in the USA or UK can.
>
>Looks like my Maemo/MeeGo dream starts and ends with the N900.
>
>Is there anyone even on this mailing list that is in one of the
>countries you can buy one?
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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 9:53 AM

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Ville Vainio wrote:
> I guess mailorder won't be too hard either?

I'm afraid I will be price gouged, but I will wait and see.
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texrat at ovi

Aug 9, 2011, 9:56 AM

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>________________________________
>From: Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml>
>To: maemo-community [at] maemo
>Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 11:53 AM
>Subject: Re: Who can buy an N9?
>
>Ville Vainio wrote:
>> I guess mailorder won't be too hard either?
>
>I'm afraid I will be price gouged, but I will wait and see.
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Warranty will be an issue, too.

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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 10:00 AM

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Randall Arnold wrote:
> Warranty will be an issue, too.

Yes, I had forgotten about this. Nokia has a history of not honoring
warranties in regions they do not sell the product.

It looks like USA developers of the MeeGo are out of luck.
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tim at samoff

Aug 9, 2011, 10:03 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

Hi,

Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> It looks like USA developers of the MeeGo are out of luck.
>

I disagree... Developers probably won't be completely out of luck, as
Nokia will most likely target a few U.S. devs to create software, etc.

It's the U.S. consumers who _may_ be out of luck depending on what
happens with the distribution channels -- which, isn't it still too
early to speculate?

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texrat at ovi

Aug 9, 2011, 10:11 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

>________________________________
>From: Tim Samoff <tim [at] samoff>
>To: List for community development <maemo-community [at] maemo>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Who can buy an N9?
>
>Hi,
>
>Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> It looks like USA developers of the MeeGo are out of luck.
>>
>
>I disagree... Developers probably won't be completely out of luck, as Nokia will most likely target a few U.S. devs to create software, etc.
>
>It's the U.S. consumers who _may_ be out of luck depending on what happens with the distribution channels -- which, isn't it still too early to speculate?
>

To early to be 100% sure of anything, but perfectly reasonable to speculate based on Nokia history and recent confusing signals IMO.

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texrat at ovi

Aug 9, 2011, 10:11 AM

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>________________________________
>From: Tim Samoff <tim [at] samoff>
>To: List for community development <maemo-community [at] maemo>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:03 PM
>Subject: Re: Who can buy an N9?
>
>Hi,
>
>Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> It looks like USA developers of the MeeGo are out of luck.
>>
>
>I disagree... Developers probably won't be completely out of luck, as Nokia will most likely target a few U.S. devs to create software, etc.
>
>It's the U.S. consumers who _may_ be out of luck depending on what happens with the distribution channels -- which, isn't it still too early to speculate?
>

To early to be 100% sure of anything, but perfectly reasonable to speculate based on Nokia history and recent confusing signals IMO.

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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 10:15 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

Tim Samoff wrote:
> I disagree... Developers probably won't be completely out of luck, as
> Nokia will most likely target a few U.S. devs to create software, etc.

Why would any US company want to put a workforce into a product that
won't be sold in the US?

>
> It's the U.S. consumers who _may_ be out of luck depending on what
> happens with the distribution channels -- which, isn't it still too
> early to speculate?

Yes, it is early. I am trying to be optimistic about the situation, but
Nokia has not given much positive press to go on.
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a.grandi at gmail

Aug 9, 2011, 10:16 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

It's not just speculation:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/09/nokia-the-n9-isnt-coming-to-america/
it's an official response to Engadget.

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texrat at ovi

Aug 9, 2011, 10:19 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

 
Randall (Randy) Arnold
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----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml>
> To: maemo-community [at] maemo
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Who can buy an N9?
>
>T im Samoff wrote:
>> I disagree... Developers probably won't be completely out of luck, as
>> Nokia will most likely target a few U.S. devs to create software, etc.
>
> Why would any US company want to put a workforce into a product that won't
> be sold in the US?
> 

It's already been done with the N950.  We don't know all the WHYs, but many community members don't seem to care...

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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 10:23 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

Randall Arnold wrote:
> It's already been done with the N950. We don't know all the WHYs, but many community members don't seem to care...

Which US company is developing on the N950?
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reggie at internettablettalk

Aug 9, 2011, 10:25 AM

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On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml> wrote:
> Which US company is developing on the N950?

You can see some big ones here: http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/
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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 10:26 AM

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a.grandi [at] gmail wrote:
> It's not just speculation:
> http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/09/nokia-the-n9-isnt-coming-to-america/
> it's an official response to Engadget.

Yes, this blog post (I consider engadget to be a blog) made me start
this thread. I didn't want to use it as a source though as Engadget is
ignorant about Nokia's plans and considers MeeGo to have no future with
statements like these: "the company's first (and last) MeeGo smartphone".
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a.grandi at gmail

Aug 9, 2011, 10:29 AM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

Hi,

On 9 August 2011 19:26, Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml> wrote:
> Yes, this blog post (I consider engadget to be a blog) made me start this
> thread. I didn't want to use it as a source though as Engadget is ignorant
> about Nokia's plans and considers MeeGo to have no future with statements
> like these: "the company's first (and last) MeeGo smartphone".

you can be right, but I consider this just "realism"....

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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 10:34 AM

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Reggie Suplido wrote:
> You can see some big ones here:http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/

Are you sure the US divisions built those apps? Those are global
companies on that page.

Did Facebook even have anything to do with their app? Was it a Nokia
built app and Facebook allowed them to use the name and logo? I don't
see it mentioned in the Facebook Bugzilla while Android and iOS are.

(as we slide off-topic :) )
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texrat at ovi

Aug 9, 2011, 10:42 AM

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----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Cronenworth <mike [at] cchtml>
> To: maemo-community [at] maemo
> Cc:
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Who can buy an N9?
>
> Reggie Suplido wrote:
>> You can see some big ones here:http://swipe.nokia.com/applications/
>
> Are you sure the US divisions built those apps? Those are global companies on
> that page.
>
> Did Facebook even have anything to do with their app? Was it a Nokia built app
> and Facebook allowed them to use the name and logo? I don't see it mentioned
> in the Facebook Bugzilla while Android and iOS are.
>
> (as we slide off-topic :) )


Then let's get back to topic: Tim Samoff said "US devs", not "US companies".  You changed the dialog at that point.  ;)

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tim at samoff

Aug 9, 2011, 11:03 AM

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Randall Arnold wrote:
> Then let's get back to topic: Tim Samoff said "US devs", not "US companies". You changed the dialog at that point. ;)
>

Right. But, I do know a number of U.S. companies who _would_ develop for
MeeGo if given the chance (i.e., I'd say that most forward-thinking
companies think globally). Anyway, developing for the N9 is also
developing for MeeGo (in some sense), so work done for MeeGo can easily
be released for N9/Harmattan.

Also, bringing up the Engadget article, there's a pretty ambiguous "At
this time..." segment to that quote. Sure, we can speculate, but
nothing's in stone yet.

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mike at cchtml

Aug 9, 2011, 12:12 PM

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Attila Csipa on 08/09/2011 01:19 PM wrote:
> I believe that economic practice is called "Export" (why do Chinese vendors
> have m/billions of people working on products that are not sold in China ?).

This analogy is very poor in relation to the topic at hand.

I won't get into detail, as that is not the point of this thread, but I
was interested in US citizens developing applications for MeeGo (which
would include me).

> Of course the actual feasibility depends on your business model (target
> audience, marketing strategy, monetization technique, etc).

This is why your analogy is poor. Why doesn't the internet provider you
use to send your e-mail with put a headquarters in the USA?
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quim.gil at nokia

Aug 9, 2011, 1:41 PM

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> I was interested in US citizens developing applications for MeeGo (which would include me).

I guess you mean US residents? ;)

Anyway, of course Facebook is involved in the development of the Facebook app for the N9.

About markets availability, I guess you didn't expect to get any official answer at maemo-community...

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sivan at omniqueue

Aug 9, 2011, 5:28 PM

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Re: Who can buy an N9? [In reply to]

I wish it could be sold in Israel as well...



On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:41 PM, <quim.gil [at] nokia> wrote:
>>  I was interested in US citizens developing applications for MeeGo (which would include me).
>
> I guess you mean US residents?  ;)
>
> Anyway, of course Facebook is involved in the development of the Facebook app for the N9.
>
> About markets availability, I guess you didn't expect to get any official answer  at maemo-community...
>
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maemo at csipa

Aug 10, 2011, 3:22 AM

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On Tuesday 09 August 2011 22:12:49 you wrote:
> > Of course the actual feasibility depends on your business model (target
> > audience, marketing strategy, monetization technique, etc).
>
> This is why your analogy is poor. Why doesn't the internet provider you
> use to send your e-mail with put a headquarters in the USA?

Unlike internet providership, the location where your software is used/bought
and it's quality is largely geography-independent (barring timezone differences
for support channels if you care about that). Even today, outside of the US
there are ~100 million devices that share a technological background with
MeeGo (=Qt), which can certainly be a valid business opportunity, *if* you
have the right product. If Rovio based their operations on how many copies of
Angry Birds they could sell in Finland at the time they originally wrote it,
they would have ditched that project real quick.

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