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texrat at ovi

Feb 6, 2010, 1:22 PM

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maemo.org preferred tools and formats

Greetings fellow maemo.org community members,

I *think* this was discussed before but I can't be completely sure. What
does everyone think about establishing preferred/default software
application and file format standards for maemo.org use?

For instance, I've been doing a lot of graphics work lately and moving it
over to FOSS tools. In this capacity I am now using Inkscape for vector
graphics work and saving in SVG. I would also propose PNG as the bitmap
standard.

Anyway, what are the thoughts on this subject? Should I just compile a
table, stick it in the wiki and let everyone argue over it? :D I do
think it needs to be done.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
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andrew at bleb

Feb 6, 2010, 1:42 PM

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Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats [In reply to]

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 21:22, Randall Arnold <texrat [at] ovi> wrote:
>
> Anyway, what are the thoughts on this subject? Should I just compile a
> table, stick it in the wiki and let everyone argue over it? :D

Stick a wiki page up:

* SVG (Inkscape enhanced fine)
* PNG
* ODF
* ODP
* PDF (for stuff which is not intended to be edited)

More interesting, IMHO, are the standard presentation templates I've
been (intermittently) trying to get some momentum for for the past 2.5
years. But having a set of standard formats for collaboration within
the community can't be bad.

Cheers,

Andrew

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texrat at ovi

Feb 7, 2010, 10:02 AM

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Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats [In reply to]

Thanks for the feedback and support. I've started a table today and will
move it into the wiki soon.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/

> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Andrew Flegg" <andrew [at] bleb>
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
> Subject: Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 21:42:46 +0000
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 21:22, Randall Arnold <texrat [at] ovi> wrote:
> >
> > Anyway, what are the thoughts on this subject? Should I just compile
a
> > table, stick it in the wiki and let everyone argue over it? :D
>
> Stick a wiki page up:
>
> * SVG (Inkscape enhanced fine)
> * PNG
> * ODF
> * ODP
> * PDF (for stuff which is not intended to be edited)
>
> More interesting, IMHO, are the standard presentation templates I've
> been (intermittently) trying to get some momentum for for the past 2.5
> years. But having a set of standard formats for collaboration within
> the community can't be bad.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew [at] bleb | http://www.bleb.org/
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dneary at maemo

Feb 7, 2010, 1:58 PM

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Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats [In reply to]

Hi,

Andrew Flegg wrote:
> Stick a wiki page up:
>
> * SVG (Inkscape enhanced fine)
> * PNG
> * ODF
> * ODP
> * PDF (for stuff which is not intended to be edited)

Add TIFF, JPG, HTML, I would think.

The question raises an issue - where should this type of stuff go in the
wiki? I don't necessarily mean categories (ot could be Category:Media
and Users I suppose), but more where does it fit in the navigation?
Clearly this is not a link for the front page (which needs some cleaning
up I think), but if someone comes onto the front page looking for this
kind of information, what link would they look for & click?

> More interesting, IMHO, are the standard presentation templates I've
> been (intermittently) trying to get some momentum for for the past 2.5
> years. But having a set of standard formats for collaboration within
> the community can't be bad.

I'm not a fan of presentation templates at all - and I think that effort
put into making them would not be time well spent. Templates sometimes
(often?) encourage poor practice in slide design, and the template
elements like logos distract from the message you're working to get
across. I don't need to see a maemo.org logo on every slide for a Maemo
presentation.

Personal opinion, of course, but I'd much prefer to teach people good
presentation style than to have everyone use the same template to
artificially enforce a visual identity.

Cheers,
Dave.

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texrat at ovi

Feb 8, 2010, 12:40 AM

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Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats [In reply to]

> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Dave Neary" <dneary [at] maemo>
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
> Subject: Re: maemo.org preferred tools and formats
> Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:58:19 +0100
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Andrew Flegg wrote:
> > Stick a wiki page up:
> >
> > * SVG (Inkscape enhanced fine)
> > * PNG
> > * ODF
> > * ODP
> > * PDF (for stuff which is not intended to be edited)
>
> Add TIFF, JPG, HTML, I would think.
>

JPG and HTML added, as well as numerous others. I now have a table in
progress on google docs:

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AQ...ODJ2cWNx&hl=en (editable by all)

talk thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43681

I am testing apps as I build the table so it's very slow going.

> The question raises an issue - where should this type of stuff go in
the
> wiki? I don't necessarily mean categories (ot could be Category:Media
> and Users I suppose), but more where does it fit in the navigation?
> Clearly this is not a link for the front page (which needs some
cleaning
> up I think), but if someone comes onto the front page looking for this
> kind of information, what link would they look for & click?

Good question. I think we need a high-level Standards category. Under
it would come the logo, fonts, file formats, templates, themes etc.

>
> > More interesting, IMHO, are the standard presentation templates I've
> > been (intermittently) trying to get some momentum for for the past
2.5
> > years. But having a set of standard formats for collaboration within
> > the community can't be bad.
>
> I'm not a fan of presentation templates at all - and I think that
effort
> put into making them would not be time well spent. Templates sometimes
> (often?) encourage poor practice in slide design, and the template
> elements like logos distract from the message you're working to get
> across. I don't need to see a maemo.org logo on every slide for a Maemo
> presentation.
>
> Personal opinion, of course, but I'd much prefer to teach people good
> presentation style than to have everyone use the same template to
> artificially enforce a visual identity.

I find templates useful as a good launch point if nothing else, and can
help when a dominant theme (eg, Maemo Summit) is important.

>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
> --
> maemo.org docsmaster
> Email: dneary [at] maemo
> Jabber: bolsh [at] jabber
>
>

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/

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