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rabelg5 at gmail

Oct 20, 2009, 12:30 PM

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#maemo IRC cloaks

After 18 long months we finally managed to get the group contact form
processed for #maemo. Niels is now the primary organization contact
with Freenode for maemo.org. The big advantage, other than finally
having control over our own damn channel, is that we now get free
Freenode cloaks to hand out to contributors and employees.

I've written up a proposal on the wiki outlining some general
guidelines for cloak distribution and format.[1] Hopefully some
interested folks can review it and see what they think. The primary
change I'm considering is lowering the karma threshold from 1000 to
500 since 1000 excludes more helpful contributors than I'd like.

Thanks!

[1]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_cloaks
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Oct 20, 2009, 12:35 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi,

Ryan Abel wrote:
> I've written up a proposal on the wiki outlining some general
> guidelines for cloak distribution and format.[1] Hopefully some
> interested folks can review it and see what they think. The primary
> change I'm considering is lowering the karma threshold from 1000 to
> 500 since 1000 excludes more helpful contributors than I'd like.

This might be a silly question, but what does an IRC cloak do? Is it a
veil of invisibility or something?

Cheers,
Dave.

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nathan at andersonsplace

Oct 20, 2009, 12:39 PM

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RE: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Dave,

LOL, I just asked the same question on the "Talk" part of the new
wiki page. Guess I'm not nearly as stupid as I thought I was. ;-)

Nathan

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Hi,

Ryan Abel wrote:
> I've written up a proposal on the wiki outlining some general
> guidelines for cloak distribution and format.[1] Hopefully some
> interested folks can review it and see what they think. The primary
> change I'm considering is lowering the karma threshold from 1000 to
> 500 since 1000 excludes more helpful contributors than I'd like.

This might be a silly question, but what does an IRC cloak do? Is it a veil
of invisibility or something?

Cheers,
Dave.

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rabelg5 at gmail

Oct 20, 2009, 12:45 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Oct 20, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Dave Neary wrote:

> Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> I've written up a proposal on the wiki outlining some general
>> guidelines for cloak distribution and format.[1] Hopefully some
>> interested folks can review it and see what they think. The primary
>> change I'm considering is lowering the karma threshold from 1000 to
>> 500 since 1000 excludes more helpful contributors than I'd like.
>
> This might be a silly question, but what does an IRC cloak do? Is it a
> veil of invisibility or something?

Wikipedia has a useful overview: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks

Essentially it provides 3 things:

1. Privacy, since your IP is no longer displayed for all of the world.
2. Bling, since you know you've arrived when you've got a maemo.org
cloak. ;)
3. Identification, it helps other users spot important and useful
people in the organization.
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Oct 28, 2009, 1:18 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /maemo.org/.

The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
looks like this:

achipa
andy80
anidel
atmasphere
baloo
barbieri
bergie
bundyo
conny
ed_
fanoush
feri
fiferboy
florian
fms
framstag
fredoll
jaffa
jatikka
jku
khertan
konttori
kulve
lardman
lbt
lcuk
lma
lucianomw
mgedmin
mikkov
milhouse
murrayc
mvo
nakkebar
ossi1967
pipeline
pycage
qgil
qwerty12
sarev0k
sjgadsby
thoughtfix
thp
timeless
timsamoff
yerga
zerojay

All of you are eligible for a /Maemo/community/contributor/ cloak. It
requires only that you have registered your nickname with Freenode (/
quote nickserv register <password> <email>) and that you indicate your
interest. We may want to do a mass emailing to these folks to make
sure we don't miss anybody who doesn't browse this list.

X-Fade's the man in charge of the channel, and he's a bit busy at the
moment what with Maemo 5 just around the corner and whatnot so it may
take a while before we start handing out vanity plates. For now we can
at least confirm with those of you who are interested. So respond to
the list or email me directly if you are and I'll compile a list of
people for X-Fade to submit when he has time.

There are a number of Nokians in this list (you know who you are ;)).
You have the option of going with either a contributor cloak (/Maemo/
community/contributor/) or a cloak that indicates your association
with Nokia more directly. Something like /Maemo/<department>/
<position>/, /Maemo/<product>/<position>/, /Maemo/<position>/, or more
generic like /Maemo/employee/. It's mostly up to you (although any
guidelines you can recommend would be appreciated). This offer also
extends to any other Maemo Devices employees who would like cloaks.

If you're on the list or work for Maemo Devices and are interested in
a cloak then let me know and we'll get you set up sometime soon.
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a.grandi at gmail

Oct 28, 2009, 1:25 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi,

2009/10/28 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
> being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /maemo.org/.
>
> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> looks like this:
>
> achipa
> andy80

I'm very pleased to be in this list, and I've a question (please don't
kill me :D ):

ehm... what is a "cloak" and what is used for? I'm on IRC since 1997
more or less, but I used other networks and so I've never used this
funcionality. Could you please explain me better? Maybe other people
could be interested too :)

Thanks and best regards.

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Oct 28, 2009, 1:31 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi,

2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/28 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
>> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
>> being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /maemo.org/.
>>
>> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
>> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
>> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>> looks like this:
>>
>> achipa
>> andy80
>
> I'm very pleased to be in this list, and I've a question (please don't
> kill me :D ):
>
> ehm... what is a "cloak" and what is used for? I'm on IRC since 1997
> more or less, but I used other networks and so I've never used this
> funcionality. Could you please explain me better? Maybe other people
> could be interested too :)

I've just found this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
it looks nice :)

+1 for me to have a cloak!

Thanks :)

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bartosh at gmail

Oct 28, 2009, 1:35 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
> Hi,
>
> 2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/10/28 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
>>> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
>>> being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /maemo.org/.
>>>
>>> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
>>> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
>>> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>>> looks like this:
>>>
>>> achipa
>>> andy80
>>
>> I'm very pleased to be in this list, and I've a question (please don't
>> kill me :D ):
>>
>> ehm... what is a "cloak" and what is used for? I'm on IRC since 1997
>> more or less, but I used other networks and so I've never used this
>> funcionality. Could you please explain me better? Maybe other people
>> could be interested too :)
>
> I've just found this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
> it looks nice :)
>
> +1 for me to have a cloak!
>
+1

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trippin1 at gmail

Oct 28, 2009, 3:05 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On 10/28/09, Ed Bartosh <bartosh [at] gmail> wrote:
> 2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 2009/10/28 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
>>>> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
>>>> being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /maemo.org/.
>>>>
>>>> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
>>>> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
>>>> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>>>> looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> achipa
>>>> andy80
>>>
>>> I'm very pleased to be in this list, and I've a question (please don't
>>> kill me :D ):
>>>
>>> ehm... what is a "cloak" and what is used for? I'm on IRC since 1997
>>> more or less, but I used other networks and so I've never used this
>>> funcionality. Could you please explain me better? Maybe other people
>>> could be interested too :)
>>
>> I've just found this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
>> it looks nice :)
>>
>> +1 for me to have a cloak!
>>
> +1
>

Sign me up, too, please.
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> Ed
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liquid at gmail

Oct 28, 2009, 3:12 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Faheem Pervez <trippin1 [at] gmail> wrote:

> On 10/28/09, Ed Bartosh <bartosh [at] gmail> wrote:
> > 2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> 2009/10/28 Andrea Grandi <a.grandi [at] gmail>:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> 2009/10/28 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
> >>>> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact form
> >>>> being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead of /
> maemo.org/.
> >>>>
> >>>> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
> >>>> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
> >>>> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> >>>> looks like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> achipa
> >>>> andy80
> >>>
> >>> I'm very pleased to be in this list, and I've a question (please don't
> >>> kill me :D ):
> >>>
> >>> ehm... what is a "cloak" and what is used for? I'm on IRC since 1997
> >>> more or less, but I used other networks and so I've never used this
> >>> funcionality. Could you please explain me better? Maybe other people
> >>> could be interested too :)
> >>
> >> I've just found this: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Cloaks
> >> it looks nice :)
> >>
> >> +1 for me to have a cloak!
> >>
> > +1
> >
>
> Sign me up, too, please.
>

+1 please

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> > Ed
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Oct 28, 2009, 3:21 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
> The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> looks like this:

And yet again, those most active on IRC, don't get the honours. Oh the irony.

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:30 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

reasonably recent and mostly complete stats for 2009

http://liqbase.net/maemo_incomplete_ircstats.htm

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers <
crashanddie [at] gmail> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
> > The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> > looks like this:
>
> And yet again, those most active on IRC, don't get the honours. Oh the
> irony.
>
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david at dgreaves

Oct 28, 2009, 3:44 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Gary Birkett wrote:
> reasonably recent and mostly complete stats for 2009
>
> http://liqbase.net/maemo_incomplete_ircstats.htm

Good god!

I'm #12 and that doesn't include #mer

David

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Oct 28, 2009, 4:04 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hahaha some funny numbers in there:

...
infobot is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 56 times.
For example, like this:
* infobot beats the sh*t out of lcuk
GeneralAntilles can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on
others 16 times.
...
lcuk seems to be unliked too. He/She got beaten 13 times. *
*...*
lcuk* always lets us know what he/she's doing: 3986 actions!
*For example, like this:*
* lcuk nods
...

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Gary Birkett <liquid [at] gmail> wrote:

> reasonably recent and mostly complete stats for 2009
>
> http://liqbase.net/maemo_incomplete_ircstats.htm
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers <
> crashanddie [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
>> > The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>> > looks like this:
>>
>> And yet again, those most active on IRC, don't get the honours. Oh the
>> irony.
>>
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rabelg5 at gmail

Oct 28, 2009, 4:15 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>> looks like this:
>
> And yet again, those most active on IRC, don't get the honours. Oh
> the irony.

Hey, somebody put together a karma calculator for Midgard to parse the
line numbers and we'll implement it. ;)
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Oct 28, 2009, 4:16 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Oct 28, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Sebastian 'CrashandDie' Lauwers wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
>> looks like this:
>
> And yet again, those most active on IRC, don't get the honours. Oh
> the irony.

I'd like to make a few exceptions myself, but it feels too much like
cronyism. :P
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Oct 28, 2009, 6:02 PM

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On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Ed Bartosh wrote:

> +1

What nick are you registered under on Freenode? EdB?
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Oct 28, 2009, 11:10 PM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

2009/10/29 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
> On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Ed Bartosh wrote:
>
>> +1
>
> What nick are you registered under on Freenode? EdB?
>
Nope, it's not mine. I registered Ed_B.

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jamie at linuxuk

Oct 29, 2009, 2:38 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 16:18 -0400, Ryan Abel wrote:
> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> looks like this:
>
> baloo

Please:

IRC Nick JamieBennett

Regards,
Jamie.

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Oct 29, 2009, 3:32 AM

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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:18:32 -0400
Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:

> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact
> form being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead
> of /maemo.org/.
>
> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with > 500 karma
> looks like this:
> yerga

I'm in.

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Oct 29, 2009, 5:31 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Sure, me too.

timsamoff

Thanks!
Tim

Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:18:32 -0400
> Ryan Abel<rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:
>
>> OK, Freenode couldn't do maemo.org without another group contact
>> form being filed so we've gone with /Maemo/community/ instead
>> of /maemo.org/.
>>
>> The staff and council cloaks have been handed (congratulations to
>> Stskeeps ;)), but we'll have to discuss how we want to handle the
>> contributor cloaks. The list of maemo.org members with> 500 karma
>> looks like this:
>> yerga
>
> I'm in.
>

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:49 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi all,

any updates about IRC cloaks? Maybe I'm missing the discussion page?

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:28 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 10:49 +0100 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
> any updates about IRC cloaks? Maybe I'm missing the discussion page?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_cloaks exists but it's missing
an update.

Cloaks have been in use for a few weeks on IRC.

andre

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:34 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

Hi,

2009/12/9 Andre Klapper <aklapper [at] openismus>:
> Hi,
>
> Am Mittwoch, den 09.12.2009, 10:49 +0100 schrieb Andrea Grandi:
>> any updates about IRC cloaks? Maybe I'm missing the discussion page?
>
> http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:maemo.org_IRC_cloaks exists but it's missing
> an update.
>
> Cloaks have been in use for a few weeks on IRC.

I don't get my cloak applied when I'm connected, even if I was in the
list of "elegibles" for the cloak, even if I replied with a "+1 for
me!!!", even if I authenticate myself when I connect to Freenode IRC
servers.

Could you give a look if everything is working fine? Thanks :)

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Dec 9, 2009, 5:12 AM

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Re: #maemo IRC cloaks [In reply to]

On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:34 AM, Andrea Grandi wrote:

> I don't get my cloak applied when I'm connected, even if I was in the
> list of "elegibles" for the cloak, even if I replied with a "+1 for
> me!!!", even if I authenticate myself when I connect to Freenode IRC
> servers.
>
> Could you give a look if everything is working fine? Thanks :)

Hey, Andrea! ;)

I gave a partial list to X-Fade before he left for vacation last
month, not sure if your name was on it or not. I believe the Freenode
people were confirming with the recipients before applying the cloak,
so it's possible they may simply have missed you.

I've put your name back on the list of people who still need cloaks
and I'll toss it over to X-Fade today or tomorrow.
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