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texrat at ovi

Dec 8, 2009, 8:27 AM

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Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback

Greetings all,
After some preliminary discussion on the council list I am opening this
up to the community.
The subject matter is advertising Maemo and maemo.org to developers and
enthusiasts. I am developing a pilot community outreach program starting
with the US and need materials for these activities. The flyer in
question is part of that goal. I hope to have the result printed and
take them to meetups and large events.
I am looking for feedback on all aspects: color, content, layout, scope,
etc. There are some general things to be aware of:
- I have been informed I cannot use Nokia trademarked logos. This is
disappointing but not a total dealbreaker. I had hoped to at least use
the Qt logo+text but this looks unlikley... so keep this in mind.- Plans
are to include details on the reverse side of the flyer. The front sheet
needs to stay fairly "clean"- The audiences may be mixed, which is why
commercial and open source are both addressed- I realize the phrasing of
the "rich coding wonderland..." paragraph is awkward and am looking for
improvement- councail [at] maemo email address has been requested by
council to be changed to maemo-community [at] maemo; looking especially
for further feedback there Note that some text may look unusual when the
PDF first loads; refreshing should correct this.There are two pages, each
with some unique aspects. More on that below the link.
http://www.maemo-daemons.org/maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
Page 1 notes:
- Red text for Linux Journal quote was chosen due to that being the
magazine's logo color, plus it stands out. I'm not religious about that
though ; )- Blue in "arrow" for Anssi Vanjoki's quote is Nokia logo color
and used to visually indicate Nokia involvement
Page 2 notes:
- Forum Nokia logo will need to be removed

Thanks to everyone in advance for your input!

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
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a.grandi at gmail

Dec 8, 2009, 8:51 AM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

Hi,

2009/12/8 Randall Arnold <texrat [at] ovi>:
> - I have been informed I cannot use Nokia trademarked logos. This is
> disappointing but not a total dealbreaker. I had hoped to at least use the
> Qt logo+text but this looks unlikley... so keep this in mind.

why they don't let us use those logo? After all, promoting Maemo means
promoting a Nokia product.

I really think that Nokia marketing and Maemo.org shouldn't work
separately, they should collaborate. Is it only a dream?

> - councail [at] maemo email address has been requested by council to be
> changed to maemo-community [at] maemo; looking especially for further
> feedback there

I agree, but if you're not subscribed to the mailing list you cannot
write a message... this is the default setting at least.

Good job anyway :)

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tim at samoff

Dec 8, 2009, 8:57 AM

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Hi,

Randall Arnold wrote:
> There are two pages, each with some unique aspects. More on that below
> the link.
>
> http://www.maemo-daemons.org/maemo-org_flyer2.pdf

It's getting better!

Here are some more layout notes (not too much on actual content, which I
think still needs a little massaging).

http://samoff.com/random/samoff-maemo-org_flyer2.pdf

Be sure to look at both pages.

So that everyone knows, I'm an advocate of making the community the
point of entry, not the Council. But, I'd love to hear arguments either way.

Thanks,
Tim

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texrat at ovi

Dec 8, 2009, 8:43 PM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

response below

original message -----
> From: "Tim Samoff" <tim [at] samoff>
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
> Subject: Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback
> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:53 -0600
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Randall Arnold wrote:
> > There are two pages, each with some unique aspects. More on that below
> > the link.
> >
> > http://www.maemo-daemons.org/maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>
> It's getting better!
>
> Here are some more layout notes (not too much on actual content, which I
> think still needs a little massaging).
>
> http://samoff.com/random/samoff-maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>
> Be sure to look at both pages.
>
> So that everyone knows, I'm an advocate of making the community the
> point of entry, not the Council. But, I'd love to hear arguments either way.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> --
> http://samoff.com
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>

Thanks Tim. So far yours and Andreas' are the only feedback since this went to the community list...

But your feedback makes sense and I believe I can easily incorporate it, thanks!

-Randy

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quim.gil at nokia

Dec 8, 2009, 11:37 PM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

Hi,

ext Randall Arnold wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> After some preliminary discussion on the council list I am opening this
> up to the community.
>
> The subject matter is advertising Maemo and maemo.org to developers and
> enthusiasts.

Defining the target and the purpose is the most important aspect. Once
this is clear producing the marketing materials are easier.

So looking at your PDF I see that it might serve the purpose of
gathering developers with certain knowledge or an interest in Qt. That's
it, I don't see room/message for "Maemo enthusiasts" alone. Not even for
the average Linux / open source developer the message sounds like
"something definitely for me".

Note that developers with certain interest in Qt is what Nokia is
targeting left and right, so I wonder if this is a first priority for
the Maemo community.

> I am developing a pilot community outreach program
> starting with the US and need materials for these activities. The flyer
> in question is part of that goal. I hope to have the result printed and
> take them to meetups and large events.

For instance? Seeing 2-3 events you are planning to attend would help
figuring out the right message for the right audience.

>
> I am looking for feedback on all aspects: color, content, layout, scope,
> etc. There are some general things to be aware of:
>
> - I have been informed I cannot use Nokia trademarked logos. This is
> disappointing but not a total dealbreaker. I had hoped to at least use
> the Qt logo+text but this looks unlikley... so keep this in mind.

What is the license and specific purpose of your brochure? No company
will give you a wild card to use their trademarks.

If you are planning to have a brochure that anybody can download, print
and give away publicly then it makes total sense that no Nokia
trademarks are involved and the brochure can't be confused with some
official Nokia marketing material.

> - Plans are to include details on the reverse side of the flyer. The
> front sheet needs to stay fairly "clean"

What is the physical size? It looks somewhat busy to me already.

> - The audiences may be mixed, which is why commercial and open source
> are both addressed
> - I realize the phrasing of the "rich coding wonderland..." paragraph is
> awkward and am looking for improvement
> - councail [at] maemo <mailto:councail [at] maemo> email address has been
> requested by council to be changed to maemo-community [at] maemo
> <mailto:maemo-community [at] maemo>; looking especially for further
> feedback there

From a Development Nirvana platform I would expect a URL with more
information, not an email address and even less a mailing list. If it's
indeed for developers then http://maemo.org/development/

About the content itself, I think it's overpromising and not very
informative, actually. Your own feedback about the current Extras QA
process is not "development nirvana". Nor it is publishing in Ovi, again
according to your feedback. Qt 4.6 for Maemo is in some alpha-ish state
now. We are seeing the feedback from new developers dealing with the SDK
and the Virtual image and the documentation...

I would rather put the marketing time making sure the "development
nirvana" pieces are easy to find and well documented, with a special
focus in newcomers getting started.

OR

I would stress the great aspects of maemo.org to Maemo enthusiasts:
Download, rate and comment on apps, get support and discuss with peers
at Talk, get community testing for your apps and a free distribution
channel at Extras... This is what is really excellent and unique in
maemo.org and this is what no company can promote as good as real
community marketing.

Note the overlapping tasks this latter proposal would have with the
effort to revamp http://maemo.org/intro -
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33577

That task is stagnant mainly because of my fault. If you want we can
join efforts, you end up having a brochure and I end up having an Intro
page finished.

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Maemo Devices @ Nokia
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texrat at ovi

Dec 8, 2009, 11:59 PM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

Well... that was discouraging.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/

> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Quim Gil" <quim.gil [at] nokia>
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
> Subject: Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events -
community feedback
> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:37:57 +0200
>
>
> Hi,
>
> ext Randall Arnold wrote:
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > After some preliminary discussion on the council list I am opening
this
> > up to the community.
> >
> > The subject matter is advertising Maemo and maemo.org to developers
and
> > enthusiasts.
>
> Defining the target and the purpose is the most important aspect. Once
> this is clear producing the marketing materials are easier.
>
> So looking at your PDF I see that it might serve the purpose of
> gathering developers with certain knowledge or an interest in Qt.
That's
> it, I don't see room/message for "Maemo enthusiasts" alone. Not even
for
> the average Linux / open source developer the message sounds like
> "something definitely for me".
>
> Note that developers with certain interest in Qt is what Nokia is
> targeting left and right, so I wonder if this is a first priority for
> the Maemo community.
>
> > I am developing a pilot community outreach program
> > starting with the US and need materials for these activities. The
flyer
> > in question is part of that goal. I hope to have the result printed
and
> > take them to meetups and large events.
>
> For instance? Seeing 2-3 events you are planning to attend would help
> figuring out the right message for the right audience.
>
> >
> > I am looking for feedback on all aspects: color, content, layout,
scope,
> > etc. There are some general things to be aware of:
> >
> > - I have been informed I cannot use Nokia trademarked logos. This is
> > disappointing but not a total dealbreaker. I had hoped to at least
use
> > the Qt logo+text but this looks unlikley... so keep this in mind.
>
> What is the license and specific purpose of your brochure? No company
> will give you a wild card to use their trademarks.
>
> If you are planning to have a brochure that anybody can download, print
> and give away publicly then it makes total sense that no Nokia
> trademarks are involved and the brochure can't be confused with some
> official Nokia marketing material.
>
>
> > - Plans are to include details on the reverse side of the flyer. The
> > front sheet needs to stay fairly "clean"
>
> What is the physical size? It looks somewhat busy to me already.
>
> > - The audiences may be mixed, which is why commercial and open source
> > are both addressed
> > - I realize the phrasing of the "rich coding wonderland..." paragraph
is
> > awkward and am looking for improvement
> > - councail [at] maemo <mailto:councail [at] maemo> email address has
been
> > requested by council to be changed to maemo-community [at] maemo
> > <mailto:maemo-community [at] maemo>; looking especially for further
> > feedback there
>
> From a Development Nirvana platform I would expect a URL with more
> information, not an email address and even less a mailing list. If it's
> indeed for developers then http://maemo.org/development/
>
> About the content itself, I think it's overpromising and not very
> informative, actually. Your own feedback about the current Extras QA
> process is not "development nirvana". Nor it is publishing in Ovi,
again
> according to your feedback. Qt 4.6 for Maemo is in some alpha-ish state
> now. We are seeing the feedback from new developers dealing with the
SDK
> and the Virtual image and the documentation...
>
> I would rather put the marketing time making sure the "development
> nirvana" pieces are easy to find and well documented, with a special
> focus in newcomers getting started.
>
> OR
>
> I would stress the great aspects of maemo.org to Maemo enthusiasts:
> Download, rate and comment on apps, get support and discuss with peers
> at Talk, get community testing for your apps and a free distribution
> channel at Extras... This is what is really excellent and unique in
> maemo.org and this is what no company can promote as good as real
> community marketing.
>
> Note the overlapping tasks this latter proposal would have with the
> effort to revamp http://maemo.org/intro -
> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33577
>
> That task is stagnant mainly because of my fault. If you want we can
> join efforts, you end up having a brochure and I end up having an Intro
> page finished.
>
> --
> Quim Gil
> open source advocate
> Maemo Devices @ Nokia
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>

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texrat at ovi

Dec 9, 2009, 12:02 AM

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eh... I give up. Quim just brutalized the thing. No surprise. Feedback
is great, but there's no way I can do this if I'm gonna be hit like that.

Just another reason I hate designing by committee and in all honesty
would rather Just Do It than deal with that.

Thanks though for being helpful.

Randall (Randy) Arnold
maemo.org community council
http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/

> ----- Original message -----
> From: "Tim Samoff" <tim [at] samoff>
> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
> Subject: Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events -
community feedback
> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:53 -0600
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Randall Arnold wrote:
> > There are two pages, each with some unique aspects. More on that
below
> > the link.
> >
> > http://www.maemo-daemons.org/maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>
> It's getting better!
>
> Here are some more layout notes (not too much on actual content, which
I
> think still needs a little massaging).
>
> http://samoff.com/random/samoff-maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>
> Be sure to look at both pages.
>
> So that everyone knows, I'm an advocate of making the community the
> point of entry, not the Council. But, I'd love to hear arguments either
way.
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
>
> --
> http://samoff.com
> _______________________________________________
> maemo-community mailing list
> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>

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david at dgreaves

Dec 9, 2009, 1:03 AM

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On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 01:59 -0600, Randall Arnold wrote:
> Well... that was discouraging.

Yup - but 100% correct :)

Still, don't be discouraged. There were a lot of positive suggestions in
there. Grab a coffee, read, think, and start again.

This is just development by another name - consider Quim's reply a
superb bug report against a prototype.

David

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david at dgreaves

Dec 9, 2009, 1:17 AM

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On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 02:02 -0600, Randall Arnold wrote:
> eh... I give up. Quim just brutalized the thing. No surprise.
> Feedback is great, but there's no way I can do this if I'm gonna be
> hit like that.

???

That was a +ve and constructive critique - and not just because it was
Quim - it could have been any marketing pro.

If you showed that to a marketing manager in a commercial organisation
without being able to answer questions about targeting and objectives
he'd rip you a new asshole :)

And whilst your brochure is glossy and looks nice that wasn't really
what the comments were about.

> Just another reason I hate designing by committee and in all honesty
> would rather Just Do It than deal with that.

Yeah, but the results of a non-expert are usually (as I know from, eg,
doing my own graphic design) amateurish.

I sure don't want the maemo community to look amateurish - do you?

Really?

David

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g+770 at cobb

Dec 9, 2009, 2:32 AM

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On Wednesday 09 December 2009 08:02:33 Randall Arnold wrote:
> eh... I give up. Quim just brutalized the thing. No surprise.
> Feedback is great, but there's no way I can do this if I'm gonna be hit
> like that.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I thought Quim's comments were very helpful and,
if we address them as a team, we will end up with a much better flyer. I
don't think they were intended at all personally -- I think Quim was trying
to help us define what we wanted to achieve and make sure we focus our
efforts towards that.

Full disclosure: my day job is Marketing so maybe I sympathise too much with
Quim's points. But then, maybe I can help with addressing them. If you
decide to continue.

> Just another reason I hate designing by committee and in all honesty
> would rather Just Do It than deal with that.

There are some disadvantages but at least the committee can bring a variety of
different skills together: leadership, imagination, project management
together with graphic design and marketing communications, and others. I am
hoping you will continue to provide the leadership for this.

Graham

quim.gil at nokia

Dec 9, 2009, 2:37 AM

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Randall, maybe this is about different work cultures (I'm aware that
Mediterranean and USA standards for giving feedback are very different).

I try to help people investing their time to get the best result. To me
the easiest would be just to delete the email and wait to see what
happens. Or just reply "looks good but please don't use Nokia trademarks
because of A, B, C". But I appreciate you and your work much more than that.

The only critical feedback in my email was the reasoning why Nokia
trademarks can't be used. Let me know if it's clear and if you still
want to use those logos. Nothing is stopping you from ignoring the rest
of my comments since they were only this: comments from someone willing
to help.

PS: I guess most of us in this list have been beaten in the face much
harder when presenting proposals. Surely there are other ways of
learning but this is one that in many cases works.

--
Quim Gil
open source advocate
Maemo Devices @ Nokia

ext Randall Arnold wrote:
> eh... I give up. Quim just brutalized the thing. No surprise.
> Feedback is great, but there's no way I can do this if I'm gonna be hit
> like that.
>
> Just another reason I hate designing by committee and in all honesty
> would rather Just Do It than deal with that.
>
> Thanks though for being helpful.
>
> *Randall (Randy) Arnold*
> maemo.org community council
> http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com/
>
>
>
>
>> ----- Original message -----
>> From: "Tim Samoff" <tim [at] samoff>
>> To: "List for community development" <maemo-community [at] maemo>
>> Subject: Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events -
> community feedback
>> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:57:53 -0600
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Randall Arnold wrote:
>> > There are two pages, each with some unique aspects. More on that below
>> > the link.
>> >
>> > http://www.maemo-daemons.org/maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>>
>> It's getting better!
>>
>> Here are some more layout notes (not too much on actual content, which I
>> think still needs a little massaging).
>>
>> http://samoff.com/random/samoff-maemo-org_flyer2.pdf
>>
>> Be sure to look at both pages.
>>
>> So that everyone knows, I'm an advocate of making the community the
>> point of entry, not the Council. But, I'd love to hear arguments
> either way.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>> http://samoff.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> maemo-community mailing list
>> maemo-community [at] maemo
>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>>
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Dec 9, 2009, 7:06 AM

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Does anybody have a copy of the Mer flyer handy? I think this would be
a useful template to work from. It's also monochrome so printing is
really cheap. ;)
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rabelg5 at gmail

Dec 9, 2009, 7:54 AM

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On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Quim Gil wrote:

>> The subject matter is advertising Maemo and maemo.org to developers
>> and
>> enthusiasts.
>
> Defining the target and the purpose is the most important aspect. Once
> this is clear producing the marketing materials are easier.
>
> So looking at your PDF I see that it might serve the purpose of
> gathering developers with certain knowledge or an interest in Qt.
> That's
> it, I don't see room/message for "Maemo enthusiasts" alone. Not even
> for
> the average Linux / open source developer the message sounds like
> "something definitely for me".
>
> Note that developers with certain interest in Qt is what Nokia is
> targeting left and right, so I wonder if this is a first priority for
> the Maemo community.

This is a good point, so perhaps we should go back a few steps and
look at this again?

Who do we want to target? Forum Nokia seems to be doing an excellent
job of pushing Qt, so I don't think we need to push this angle any
more than they already are. Personally, what I'm more interested in is
bringing interested people into the community, whether developers or
otherwise.

So, I'm proposing that we focus on the community for a maemo.org
flyers? Thoughts?
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anidel at gmail

Dec 9, 2009, 8:44 AM

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2009/12/9 Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail>:
> On Dec 9, 2009, at 2:37 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
>
>>> The subject matter is advertising Maemo and maemo.org to developers
>>> and
>>> enthusiasts.
>>
>> Defining the target and the purpose is the most important aspect. Once
>> this is clear producing the marketing materials are easier.
>>
>> So looking at your PDF I see that it might serve the purpose of
>> gathering developers with certain knowledge or an interest in Qt.
>> That's
>> it, I don't see room/message for "Maemo enthusiasts" alone. Not even
>> for
>> the average Linux / open source developer the message sounds like
>> "something definitely for me".
>>
>> Note that developers with certain interest in Qt is what Nokia is
>> targeting left and right, so I wonder if this is a first priority for
>> the Maemo community.
>
> This is a good point, so perhaps we should go back a few steps and
> look at this again?
>
> Who do we want to target? Forum Nokia seems to be doing an excellent
> job of pushing Qt, so I don't think we need to push this angle any
> more than they already are. Personally, what I'm more interested in is
> bringing interested people into the community, whether developers or
> otherwise.
>
> So, I'm proposing that we focus on the community for a maemo.org
> flyers? Thoughts?

But which developers is Forum Nokia targeting?
The commercial ones or the open source ones?

From what I see it seems they are targeting more the former
than the latter ones.
Even though Nokia itself is doing a good job with "us".

If this is the case, then we can target the open source ones as well?
Attract them as a community rather than as Nokia?

So that this makes a bolder line between Maemo.org and Forum Nokia?
(if we want this at all, that is)

On the other hand, we clearly need more designers (UX, UI, Graphics).

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Dec 10, 2009, 3:19 AM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

Hi,

Randall Arnold wrote:
> After some preliminary discussion on the council list I am opening this
> up to the community.

I was going to give some feedback on this, but after catching up with
the rest of the thread, I'm a little afraid of my comments being
misinterpreted or being taken badly.

Anyway...

From a graphical point of view, less text would be better. From the
point of view of being a template design for meet-ups & developer
events, some space should be lefy for the various questions which need
answering for people to show up (what, where, when, why). In fact, event
flyers typically need nothing more than an eye-catching image or two
with the four Ws.

Then again, perhaps I misunderstand the word "flyer" in this sense, and
this is intended to be a general informative pamphlet. In which case, in
addition to the image of the N900, it might be good to have some
screenshots of community-created apps, and reduce the text to the
key-words you want to emphasise:
* Community development & collaboration
* Open platform
* Free software (please please don't use the phrase "open source freeware")
* maemo.org

And, I agree with Quim, you have to be able to answer some basic
questions with a pamphlet: who is it for, and why should they be
interested. It's a mini-presentation, and the same rules apply as those
I addressed in my lightning talk on good presentations. First, audience
& motivation (who is interested, and why?). Second, narrative (what is
my story?). Third, presentation design (how do I present my story?).
Fourth, delivery - getting your story into the hands, eyes & ears of the
people you feel should care.

Cheers,
Dave.

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vivainio at gmail

Dec 10, 2009, 3:28 AM

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Re: Maemo flyer for developer/enthusiast meetups/events - community feedback [In reply to]

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Ryan Abel <rabelg5 [at] gmail> wrote:

> Who do we want to target? Forum Nokia seems to be doing an excellent
> job of pushing Qt, so I don't think we need to push this angle any
> more than they already are. Personally, what I'm more interested in is

Qt is one of the things that will attract developers to the platform,
so it should be at least *somewhat* prominent in the flyer.

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