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andrew at bleb

Nov 21, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Maemo Weekly News: a proposal

Hi,

I've been discussing this idea with a few key contributors over the
past few days to make sure it's realistic and feasible. We've polished
it and would like to ask for volunteers for a new Maemo Weekly News
digest.

Workload: little to some.
Benefits: glory.

Read on for more info...

BACKGROUND
~~~~~~~~~~
There are a lot of facets to the Maemo community, whether it's
Bugzilla, maemo-developers, #maemo, Planet, Talk or Brainstorm. With
the N900 and Maemo 5, there's been a noticeable increase in traffic in
all these areas.

There have been suggestions of Maemo magazines before, but they've
fallen over because:
a) The people involved haven't been integrated into the community.
b) They've been a lot of work to create.
c) They tried to move away from http://maemo.org/news/

Similarly, there are blogs (like Reggie's Maemo Talk) which highlight
key important things; but some of them also suffer from the same
problems above.

With the increase in volume, and limits on my own time, I'm finding it
harder to be aware of all the things going on. In particular, little
asides and so on on talk which are key to the community, but buried in
a thread. The old complaint of "too much happening outside of
talk.maemo.org" is now reversed, IMHO, but the SNR is too low to
follow "New Posts" religiously *and* develop software at the same
time.

IDEA
~~~~
A weekly news digest of key useful/informative/interesting/insightful
news from all Maemo news sources. Similar in style and approach to
Linux Weekly News:

http://lwn.net/Articles/360596/

This is, in many ways, a continuation of Ryan's "Community Highlights"
but doing less work, being more encompassing and more repeatable:

http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/
http://maemo.org/community/council/635a8ae4fd0f11dd90b3938ce0b5aa01aa01/

This is NOT an attempt to aggregate ALL Maemo-related news, but
provide a selection of highlights during the week; of interest to
those who are involved in the platform and the community, but without
the time to follow enough of the conversations in all the places to
find the ones interesting to them. By acting as a filter, more people
will be able to be involved in the things which interest them,
resulting in an increase of higher quality submissions for members of
the community who might not be heard from as much.

IMPLEMENTATION
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The key to its success is to produce something which is useful,
integrated and deterministic; but without being a massive resource
hog.

Produced weekly, every week, with a series of sections - probably
similar to those on tmo. Something like:

* Front page
* Applications
* Development
* Community
* Devices
* Maemo in the Wild
* ...

To gather the news, a series of sub-editors/contributors would have
access to a Twitter account (@maemoweeklynews, say). The posts to this
feed would consist of the section, a few keywords and a link to the
content (thread, post, email message, blog) which triggered it. For
example, recently this may include:

Applications - wazd helping qwerty12 on Transmission:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0911/34/a388e13890a0.png
Devices - Release firmware available to download:
http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/maemo-5-final-release-updated-sdk-and-firmware/

Suggestions on content could be directed at it from people's own
Twitter accounts. The sub-editors would then be able to pick and
choose from these if it's something they'd missed.

As each issue is being pulled together, one or more sub-editors would
then review the posts to that Twitter feed for their sections and
flesh it out with a longer paragraph/quote. Full-blown stories would
also be possible, but I imagine that being a rarity (if ever). There
would then be an overall editor(s) making sure there's no duplication
and also including things from maemo.org/downloads/ (top 10 apps, and
new apps this week) and the bug jars (top 10 activity, probably).

The completed digest would then be posted to a site and syndicated to Planet.

Hopefully this shouldn't be too much work; and
sub-editors/contributors would be able to post to the feed during
their daily review of their slice of the community.

To collect the sub-editors, I'd suggest a recruitment & screening
process of the form "what 3 would you have done for last week?" See
more details below.

GETTING INVOLVED
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm now looking for:

1) CONTRIBUTORS: long-standing members of the community to volunteer
to highlight content they see during their Maemo day. This could
be whilst sat on IRC, reading the mailing lists, watching
maemo.org/news/, contributing on Brainstorm or reading Talk.

THE ONLY EXTRA WORK YOU'D HAVE TO DO WAS USE YOUR FAVOURITE TWITTER
CLIENT TO POST LINKS YOU THINK SHOULD BE IN THE DIGEST.

Approx. number of positions: 20-30

2) SUB-EDITORS: contributors who are also willing to flesh out
the links each week by selecting a representative quote. I will
be ensuring we have the tools in place to make this as easy as
possible.

Approx. number of positions: 5-10

3) EDITORS: the people with ultimately responsibility. The sub-editors
who make sure the whole thing is consistent.

Approx. number of positions: 2-4

As I want to start it small (it can always grow once we work out the
details a bit better and see how it goes), anyone who'd like to be
involved can reply to this (it'll be on maemo-community, my blog and
talk.maemo.org) with:

* maemo.org username
* Position wanted (contributor/sub-editor/editor)
* Preferred section(s) if sub-editor (feel free to make up a new one)
* One/two sentence bio.

This is an opportunity to help collaborate and facilitate spreading
Maemo news; if you're a long-time contributor to the platform, your
insights will be invaluable. If you're a relative newcomer, looking
for a way to contribute, this is your chance!

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks in advance,

Andrew

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crashanddie at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 5:02 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Andrew Flegg <andrew [at] bleb> wrote:
>    Workload: little to some.
>    Benefits: glory.

Thanks for presenting this Andrew, we can see you've put quite a lot
of thought in it. I have to say, I absolutely love how you are
offering to use new technologies in an age-old scheme, it is
surprising and refreshing.

> <snip>

> GETTING INVOLVED
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I'm now looking for:

> <snip>

>  2) SUB-EDITORS: contributors who are also willing to flesh out
>     the links each week by selecting a representative quote. I will
>     be ensuring we have the tools in place to make this as easy as
>     possible.

I would like to help in the design and implementation of those tools.
As you know, the next few months are going to be quite rough for me,
but please do keep me in the thread regarding the tools you need and
you wish to have.

-S.

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anidel at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 5:36 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

* maemo.org username: anidel
* Position wanted: contributor
* One/two sentence bio:
Software Developer in London, UK and Maemo open source developer/enthusiast.

Aniello

2009/11/21 Andrew Flegg <andrew [at] bleb>:
> Hi,
>
> I've been discussing this idea with a few key contributors over the
> past few days to make sure it's realistic and feasible. We've polished
> it and would like to ask for volunteers for a new Maemo Weekly News
> digest.
>
>    Workload: little to some.
>    Benefits: glory.
>
> Read on for more info...
>
> BACKGROUND
> ~~~~~~~~~~
> There are a lot of facets to the Maemo community, whether it's
> Bugzilla, maemo-developers, #maemo, Planet, Talk or Brainstorm. With
> the N900 and Maemo 5, there's been a noticeable increase in traffic in
> all these areas.
>
> There have been suggestions of Maemo magazines before, but they've
> fallen over because:
>  a) The people involved haven't been integrated into the community.
>  b) They've been a lot of work to create.
>  c) They tried to move away from http://maemo.org/news/
>
> Similarly, there are blogs (like Reggie's Maemo Talk) which highlight
> key important things; but some of them also suffer from the same
> problems above.
>
> With the increase in volume, and limits on my own time, I'm finding it
> harder to be aware of all the things going on. In particular, little
> asides and so on on talk which are key to the community, but buried in
> a thread. The old complaint of "too much happening outside of
> talk.maemo.org" is now reversed, IMHO, but the SNR is too low to
> follow "New Posts" religiously *and* develop software at the same
> time.
>
> IDEA
> ~~~~
> A weekly news digest of key useful/informative/interesting/insightful
> news from all Maemo news sources. Similar in style and approach to
> Linux Weekly News:
>
>   http://lwn.net/Articles/360596/
>
> This is, in many ways, a continuation of Ryan's "Community Highlights"
> but doing less work, being more encompassing and more repeatable:
>
>   http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/
>   http://maemo.org/community/council/635a8ae4fd0f11dd90b3938ce0b5aa01aa01/
>
> This is NOT an attempt to aggregate ALL Maemo-related news, but
> provide a selection of highlights during the week; of interest to
> those who are involved in the platform and the community, but without
> the time to follow enough of the conversations in all the places to
> find the ones interesting to them. By acting as a filter, more people
> will be able to be involved in the things which interest them,
> resulting in an increase of higher quality submissions for members of
> the community who might not be heard from as much.
>
> IMPLEMENTATION
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The key to its success is to produce something which is useful,
> integrated and deterministic; but without being a massive resource
> hog.
>
> Produced weekly, every week, with a series of sections - probably
> similar to those on tmo. Something like:
>
>  * Front page
>  * Applications
>  * Development
>  * Community
>  * Devices
>  * Maemo in the Wild
>  * ...
>
> To gather the news, a series of sub-editors/contributors would have
> access to a Twitter account (@maemoweeklynews, say). The posts to this
> feed would consist of the section, a few keywords and a link to the
> content (thread, post, email message, blog) which triggered it. For
> example, recently this may include:
>
>   Applications - wazd helping qwerty12 on Transmission:
> http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0911/34/a388e13890a0.png
>   Devices - Release firmware available to download:
> http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/maemo-5-final-release-updated-sdk-and-firmware/
>
> Suggestions on content could be directed at it from people's own
> Twitter accounts. The sub-editors would then be able to pick and
> choose from these if it's something they'd missed.
>
> As each issue is being pulled together, one or more sub-editors would
> then review the posts to that Twitter feed for their sections and
> flesh it out with a longer paragraph/quote. Full-blown stories would
> also be possible, but I imagine that being a rarity (if ever). There
> would then be an overall editor(s) making sure there's no duplication
> and also including things from maemo.org/downloads/ (top 10 apps, and
> new apps this week) and the bug jars (top 10 activity, probably).
>
> The completed digest would then be posted to a site and syndicated to Planet.
>
> Hopefully this shouldn't be too much work; and
> sub-editors/contributors would be able to post to the feed during
> their daily review of their slice of the community.
>
> To collect the sub-editors, I'd suggest a recruitment & screening
> process of the form "what 3 would you have done for last week?" See
> more details below.
>
> GETTING INVOLVED
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I'm now looking for:
>
>  1) CONTRIBUTORS: long-standing members of the community to volunteer
>     to highlight content they see during their Maemo day. This could
>     be whilst sat on IRC, reading the mailing lists, watching
>     maemo.org/news/, contributing on Brainstorm or reading Talk.
>
>     THE ONLY EXTRA WORK YOU'D HAVE TO DO WAS USE YOUR FAVOURITE TWITTER
>     CLIENT TO POST LINKS YOU THINK SHOULD BE IN THE DIGEST.
>
>     Approx. number of positions: 20-30
>
>  2) SUB-EDITORS: contributors who are also willing to flesh out
>     the links each week by selecting a representative quote. I will
>     be ensuring we have the tools in place to make this as easy as
>     possible.
>
>     Approx. number of positions: 5-10
>
>  3) EDITORS: the people with ultimately responsibility. The sub-editors
>     who make sure the whole thing is consistent.
>
>     Approx. number of positions: 2-4
>
> As I want to start it small (it can always grow once we work out the
> details a bit better and see how it goes), anyone who'd like to be
> involved can reply to this (it'll be on maemo-community, my blog and
> talk.maemo.org) with:
>
>   * maemo.org username
>   * Position wanted (contributor/sub-editor/editor)
>   * Preferred section(s) if sub-editor (feel free to make up a new one)
>   * One/two sentence bio.
>
> This is an opportunity to help collaborate and facilitate spreading
> Maemo news; if you're a long-time contributor to the platform, your
> insights will be invaluable. If you're a relative newcomer, looking
> for a way to contribute, this is your chance!
>
> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew [at] bleb  |  http://www.bleb.org/
> _______________________________________________
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> maemo-community [at] maemo
> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
>



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a.grandi at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 6:51 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

Hi,

2009/11/21 Andrew Flegg <andrew [at] bleb>:
>   * maemo.org username
>   * Position wanted (contributor/sub-editor/editor)
>   * Preferred section(s) if sub-editor (feel free to make up a new one)
>   * One/two sentence bio.

maemo.org username: andy80
Position wanted: contributor
One/two sentence bio: Computer Science student. Involved in PyMaemo
development and Python applications development.

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samoff at gmail

Nov 22, 2009, 7:37 AM

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* maemo.org username: timsamoff
* Position wanted: contributor
* One/two sentence bio:
Long-time Maemo/maemo.org supporter, two-term Maemo Community Council member, designer, blogger, bionic man.

--

http://samoff.com


reggie at internettablettalk

Nov 22, 2009, 8:19 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

I think this is a great project. I have some suggestions though.

1. If this is a weekly summary of 'hot topics', there should be links
to the discussion threads at Talk, or if none, a way to discuss the
article somewhere, preferably in Talk.

2. Over at Maemo Talk, I always try link to an existing discussion at
Talk so discussion is well contained. I hope this new system can
create a thread automatically at Talk and tweet every time a new
article is created.

3. If folks are open to creating a new section in maemo.org to make
this happen, I suggest to use Wordpress to run it. I can even run it
on the same server where Talk is running, and install the plug-in I
created (used at itT) to create a new thread automatically at Talk. I
can also customize the theme to match maemo.org. It's RSS feed can
then be added to News so it appears there automatically.

4. Since there will be several folks involved in this project, I
suggest a place for all the staff to talk about the article for the
week. I can create a staff-only forum at Talk, or another good place
is Socialcast ( http://socialcast.com/ ). Socialcast is being used by
several big news sites sites so staff can communicate easily with one
another -- it's free.

Lastly, I would like to volunteer:

* username: Reggie (TMO), rsuplido (maemo.org)
* postition: Editor
* bio: owner/editor of Maemo Talk, itT, and several other enthusiast
sites. IT consultant / Technical lead / Web Developer


Thanks,

Reggie

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Tim Samoff <samoff [at] gmail> wrote:
> * maemo.org username: timsamoff
>
> * Position wanted: contributor
> * One/two sentence bio:
> Long-time Maemo/maemo.org supporter, two-term Maemo Community Council
> member, designer, blogger, bionic man.
>
> --
>
> http://samoff.com
>
>
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andrew at bleb

Nov 22, 2009, 9:51 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 16:19, Reggie Suplido
<reggie [at] internettablettalk> wrote:
> I think this is a great project. I have some suggestions though.

Thanks Reggie.

> 1. If this is a weekly summary of 'hot topics', there should be links
> to the discussion threads at Talk, or if none, a way to discuss the
> article somewhere, preferably in Talk.

Hot topics to an extent (*the* hottest topics from Talk could be
included in one of the automated sections, alongside hottest bugs, top
10 downloads and newest downloads). However, also very much in scope
are the single posts which contain some nugget buried of info, buried
amongst lots of other stuff.

So, yes - there'll be links to Talk, Brainstorm, Bugzilla, random
blogs and anything else which turns up Maemo-related which a
contributor feels is worth including.

> 2. Over at Maemo Talk, I always try link to an existing discussion at
> Talk so discussion is well contained. I hope this new system can
> create a thread automatically at Talk and tweet every time a new
> article is created.

For discussion of the digest, a talk thread seems sensible.

> 3. If folks are open to creating a new section in maemo.org to make
> this happen, I suggest to use Wordpress to run it. I can even run it
> on the same server where Talk is running, and install the plug-in I
> created (used at itT) to create a new thread automatically at Talk. I
> can also customize the theme to match maemo.org. It's RSS feed can
> then be added to News so it appears there automatically.

Cool. I *think*, as Sebastian's realised, there'll need to be some
tool development to make the sub-editor & editor jobs easier.

For example, you could imagine an issue being put together as:

1) Log in.
2) Open the current in-progress digest to edit.
3) Select a section from a drop-down. A list of Twitter posts
from the MWN account in that section appears in a side-bar.
4) Each Twitter post can be clicked on to add the lead-in text, an
appropriate quote and any lead-out text necessary.
5) Items can then be dragged on to the section, and re-ordered.
Possibly with WYSWIWYG editing. (i.e. steps 4 & 5 could be
combined)
6) Changes are instanta-save and, ideally, shared between any
sub-editors looking at the section (one step at a time).

Using lots of tools like JQuery and YUI! to make it really quick and
simple to flesh out a few links into a paragraph each and pull each
section together.

So, for example, the links I gave:

---------8<--------
Applications - wazd helping qwerty12 on Transmission:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0911/34/a388e13890a0.png

Title: wazd helping qwerty12 on Transmission <--- auto-created but editable

Lead-in: {user:wazd}, our prolific community graphic designer, is
helping {user:qwerty12} with the UI for his port of Transmission, a
Bittorrent client; allowing the user to download (legal) content from
various places on the Internet.
Quote: [none]
Lead-out: [none]

Renders as:
<h3>wazd helping qwerty12 on Transmission</h3>
<p><span class="lead-in"><a href="http://maemo.org/profile/view/wazd/"
class="user" title="wazd">Andrew Zhilin</a>, our prolific community
graphic designer, is helping <a
href="http://maemo.org/profile/view/qwerty12" class="user"
title="qwerty12">Faheem Pervez</a> with the UI for his port of
Transmission, a Bittorrent client; allowing the user to download
(legal) content from various places on the Internet.</span></p>
<div class="link"><a
href="http://s56.radikal.ru/i152/0911/34/a388e13890a0.png">Read
more</a></div>
-------->8--------

--------8<--------
Devices - Release firmware available to download:
http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/maemo-5-final-release-updated-sdk-and-firmware/

Title: Summit N900 owners rejoice: release firmware available to
download <--- defaulted, but edited.

Lead-in: Those of us who received loan devices at the Maemo Summit
have been using pre-production firmware; until now:
Quote: The Nokia N900 is landing in the hands of real users with the
Maemo 5 final release that we have been polishing in the last weeks.
The fortunate users of a pre-production Nokia N900 are encouraged to
flash completely their devices in order to have them as they come out
of a sales box.
Lead-out: Simultaneously released is the final release SDK, allowing
developers to run the same environment on their device and in
Scratchbox.

Renders as:
<h3>Summit N900 owners rejoice: release firmware available to download</h3>
<p><span class="lead-in">Those of us who received loan devices at the
Maemo Summit have been using pre-production firmware; until
now:</span> <span class="quote">The Nokia N900 is landing in the hands
of real users with the Maemo 5 final release that we have been
polishing in the last weeks. The fortunate users of a pre-production
Nokia N900 are encouraged to flash completely their devices in order
to have them as they come out of a sales box.</span> <span
class="lead-out">Simultaneously released is the final release SDK,
allowing developers to run the same environment on their device and
in Scratchbox.</a></p>
<div class="link"><a
href="http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/maemo-5-final-release-updated-sdk-and-firmware/">Read
more</a></div>
--------->8--------

> 4. Since there will be several folks involved in this project, I
> suggest a place for all the staff to talk about the article for the
> week. I can create a staff-only forum at Talk, or another good place
> is Socialcast ( http://socialcast.com/ ). Socialcast is being used by
> several big news sites sites so staff can communicate easily with one
> another -- it's free.

I'll have a look. Saves have to bolt on comments/messages into the builder UI.

> Lastly, I would like to volunteer [...]

Thanks :-)

Good to have you on-board!

Cheers,

Andrew

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dneary at maemo

Nov 23, 2009, 1:33 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

Hi,

Andrew Flegg wrote:
> IDEA
> ~~~~
> A weekly news digest of key useful/informative/interesting/insightful
> news from all Maemo news sources. Similar in style and approach to
> Linux Weekly News:
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/360596/

Seems like a great idea!


> IMPLEMENTATION
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The key to its success is to produce something which is useful,
> integrated and deterministic; but without being a massive resource
> hog.

I've seen a "weekly news" digest produced with Delicious and RSS previously.

When you come across something useful for the weekly news, you share it
on delicious. Then you configure a blog posting here:
https://secure.delicious.com/settings/blogging/posting

and you get a daily digest of links with the description text you put in
when saving the link.

You could also make it weekly with a small script that queries your RSS
feed and then sends a formatted post via RPC to your blog that you run
on a separate machine via a cron job.

(Just a suggestion to lighten the load).

Cheers,
Dave.

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jukey at ju-key

Nov 23, 2009, 1:51 AM

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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

Andrew Flegg schrieb:
> * maemo.org username
jukey

> * Position wanted (contributor/sub-editor/editor)
contributor

> * One/two sentence bio.
Active in maemo.org since May of 2008. Most of my maemo-time I spend in
bugs.maemo.org reporting new bugs and discussions with developers what
is a feature and what a bug. ;) I also try to blog maemo related stuff
on my website.

Ciao, Uwe
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samoff at gmail

Nov 23, 2009, 3:29 AM

Post #10 of 10 (1036 views)
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Re: Maemo Weekly News: a proposal [In reply to]

Hi,

----- Original message -----
> I've seen a "weekly news" digest produced with Delicious and RSS previously.
>
> When you come across something useful for the weekly news, you share it
> on delicious. Then you configure a blog posting here:
> https://secure.delicious.com/settings/blogging/posting
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>

That is SUPER cool! i didn't know Delicious had that functionality.

Thanks!

Tim

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