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nseco at dei

Nov 12, 2009, 7:57 AM

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OutOfMemoryError when using Sort

Hello List.

I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);

Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine

Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
(http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-you.html).

The index just has two fields:
data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);

the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed me"
and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
ngram.

The index size after optimization is 63G.

If I do not store the data field using:
data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
the total size drops to 32G


But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
creating the Sort object like:
Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));

Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...


So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
according to their frequency counts (count field).


I'm using:
java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
lucene 2.9.1
linux ext3 FS
linux kernel 2.6.31-15

Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?

Thanks

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uwe at thetaphi

Nov 12, 2009, 8:40 AM

Post #2 of 7 (576 views)
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RE: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

To sort on the count field must be indexed (but not tokenized), it does not
need to be stored. But In any case, sort needs lots of memory. How many
documents do you have?

Uwe

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Uwe Schindler
H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: uwe [at] thetaphi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nuno Seco [mailto:nseco [at] dei]
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: java-user [at] lucene
> Subject: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort
>
> Hello List.
>
> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
>
> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
>
> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
> (http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-
> you.html).
>
> The index just has two fields:
> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
>
> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed
> me"
> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
> ngram.
>
> The index size after optimization is 63G.
>
> If I do not store the data field using:
> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> the total size drops to 32G
>
>
> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
> creating the Sort object like:
> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
>
> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
>
>
> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
> according to their frequency counts (count field).
>
>
> I'm using:
> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
> lucene 2.9.1
> linux ext3 FS
> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
>
> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Nuno Seco
>
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jake.mannix at gmail

Nov 12, 2009, 8:41 AM

Post #3 of 7 (574 views)
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Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

Sorting utilizes a FieldCache: the forward lookup - the value a document has
for a
particular field (as opposed to the usual "inverted" way of looking at all
documents
which contains a given term), which lives in memory, and takes up as much
space
as one 4-bytes * numDocs.

If you've indexed the entire 5Gram data set on one index, on one machine,
you've
got how many documents? Billions? This will take up billions*4bytes of RAM
to
do this sort.

You need to shard your index (break it up onto multiple machines, do your
sort
distributed, and merge the results) if you want to do this sorting with any
kind
of performance.

-jake

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:

> Hello List.
>
> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
>
> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
>
> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
> (
> http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-you.html).
>
> The index just has two fields:
> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
>
> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed me"
> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
> ngram.
>
> The index size after optimization is 63G.
>
> If I do not store the data field using:
> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> the total size drops to 32G
>
>
> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
> creating the Sort object like:
> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
>
> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
>
>
> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
> according to their frequency counts (count field).
>
>
> I'm using:
> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
> lucene 2.9.1
> linux ext3 FS
> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
>
> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Nuno Seco
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe [at] lucene
> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help [at] lucene
>
>


nseco at dei

Nov 12, 2009, 9:08 AM

Post #4 of 7 (578 views)
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Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

Ok. Thanks.

The doc. says:
"Finds the top |n| hits for |query|, applying |filter| if non-null, and
sorting the hits by the criteria in |sort|."

I understood that only the hits (50 in this) for the current search
would be sorted...
I'll just do the ordering afterwards. Thank you for clarifying this issue.


--
Nuno Seco


Jake Mannix wrote:
> Sorting utilizes a FieldCache: the forward lookup - the value a document has
> for a
> particular field (as opposed to the usual "inverted" way of looking at all
> documents
> which contains a given term), which lives in memory, and takes up as much
> space
> as one 4-bytes * numDocs.
>
> If you've indexed the entire 5Gram data set on one index, on one machine,
> you've
> got how many documents? Billions? This will take up billions*4bytes of RAM
> to
> do this sort.
>
> You need to shard your index (break it up onto multiple machines, do your
> sort
> distributed, and merge the results) if you want to do this sorting with any
> kind
> of performance.
>
> -jake
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:
>
>
>> Hello List.
>>
>> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
>> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
>>
>> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
>> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
>>
>> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
>> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
>> (
>> http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-you.html).
>>
>> The index just has two fields:
>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
>> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>
>> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed me"
>> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
>> ngram.
>>
>> The index size after optimization is 63G.
>>
>> If I do not store the data field using:
>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>> the total size drops to 32G
>>
>>
>> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
>> creating the Sort object like:
>> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
>>
>> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
>> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
>>
>>
>> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
>> according to their frequency counts (count field).
>>
>>
>> I'm using:
>> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
>> lucene 2.9.1
>> linux ext3 FS
>> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
>>
>> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> --
>> Nuno Seco
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe [at] lucene
>> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help [at] lucene
>>
>>
>>
>
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jake.mannix at gmail

Nov 12, 2009, 9:21 AM

Post #5 of 7 (584 views)
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Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

It is only sorting the top 50 hits, yes, but do do that, it needs to look at
the
*value* of the field for each and every of the billions of documents. You
can
do this without using memory if you're willing to deal with disk seeks, but
doing billions of those are going to mean that this query most likely only
returns a few weeks from now (kidding, but only a little).

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:

> Ok. Thanks.
>
> The doc. says:
> "Finds the top |n| hits for |query|, applying |filter| if non-null, and
> sorting the hits by the criteria in |sort|."
>
> I understood that only the hits (50 in this) for the current search would
> be sorted...
> I'll just do the ordering afterwards. Thank you for clarifying this issue.
>
>
> --
> Nuno Seco
>
>
>
> Jake Mannix wrote:
>
>> Sorting utilizes a FieldCache: the forward lookup - the value a document
>> has
>> for a
>> particular field (as opposed to the usual "inverted" way of looking at all
>> documents
>> which contains a given term), which lives in memory, and takes up as much
>> space
>> as one 4-bytes * numDocs.
>>
>> If you've indexed the entire 5Gram data set on one index, on one machine,
>> you've
>> got how many documents? Billions? This will take up billions*4bytes of
>> RAM
>> to
>> do this sort.
>>
>> You need to shard your index (break it up onto multiple machines, do your
>> sort
>> distributed, and merge the results) if you want to do this sorting with
>> any
>> kind
>> of performance.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello List.
>>>
>>> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
>>> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
>>>
>>> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
>>> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
>>>
>>> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
>>> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
>>> (
>>>
>>> http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-to-you.html
>>> ).
>>>
>>> The index just has two fields:
>>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
>>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
>>> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>>
>>> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed
>>> me"
>>> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
>>> ngram.
>>>
>>> The index size after optimization is 63G.
>>>
>>> If I do not store the data field using:
>>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
>>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>> the total size drops to 32G
>>>
>>>
>>> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
>>> creating the Sort object like:
>>> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
>>>
>>> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
>>> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
>>>
>>>
>>> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
>>> according to their frequency counts (count field).
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm using:
>>> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
>>> lucene 2.9.1
>>> linux ext3 FS
>>> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
>>>
>>> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nuno Seco
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe [at] lucene
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help [at] lucene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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uwe at thetaphi

Nov 12, 2009, 9:45 AM

Post #6 of 7 (574 views)
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RE: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

I am not really sure, why it is enough for you to sort the first 50 highest
ranking hits, but if you only want to do this, sorting afterwards is quite
straightforward.

Another idea is to not index the count itself, but more use the count as a
boost factor for each document. The ranking algorithm of lucene will then
boost docs with higher counts to the top results. But notice: The boost is
combined with the already available boots (multiplied), so the sorting will
be a combination of boost and native lucene rank. You can try to overcome
that by scaling the boost very large (factor 10 or so should be enough for
5-grams).

-----
Uwe Schindler
H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
http://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: uwe [at] thetaphi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nuno Seco [mailto:nseco [at] dei]
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:08 PM
> To: java-user [at] lucene
> Subject: Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort
>
> Ok. Thanks.
>
> The doc. says:
> "Finds the top |n| hits for |query|, applying |filter| if non-null, and
> sorting the hits by the criteria in |sort|."
>
> I understood that only the hits (50 in this) for the current search
> would be sorted...
> I'll just do the ordering afterwards. Thank you for clarifying this issue.
>
>
> --
> Nuno Seco
>
>
> Jake Mannix wrote:
> > Sorting utilizes a FieldCache: the forward lookup - the value a document
> has
> > for a
> > particular field (as opposed to the usual "inverted" way of looking at
> all
> > documents
> > which contains a given term), which lives in memory, and takes up as
> much
> > space
> > as one 4-bytes * numDocs.
> >
> > If you've indexed the entire 5Gram data set on one index, on one
> machine,
> > you've
> > got how many documents? Billions? This will take up billions*4bytes of
> RAM
> > to
> > do this sort.
> >
> > You need to shard your index (break it up onto multiple machines, do
> your
> > sort
> > distributed, and merge the results) if you want to do this sorting with
> any
> > kind
> > of performance.
> >
> > -jake
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Hello List.
> >>
> >> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
> >> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
> >>
> >> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
> >> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
> >>
> >> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
> >> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
> >> (
> >> http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-
> to-you.html).
> >>
> >> The index just has two fields:
> >> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
> >> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> >> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
> >> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
> >>
> >> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed
> me"
> >> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
> >> ngram.
> >>
> >> The index size after optimization is 63G.
> >>
> >> If I do not store the data field using:
> >> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
> >> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
> >> the total size drops to 32G
> >>
> >>
> >> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
> >> creating the Sort object like:
> >> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
> >>
> >> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
> >> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
> >>
> >>
> >> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
> >> according to their frequency counts (count field).
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm using:
> >> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
> >> lucene 2.9.1
> >> linux ext3 FS
> >> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
> >>
> >> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nuno Seco
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe [at] lucene
> >> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-help [at] lucene
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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nseco at dei

Nov 12, 2009, 11:04 AM

Post #7 of 7 (562 views)
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Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort [In reply to]

Thanks again

> I am not really sure, why it is enough for you to sort the first 50 highest
> ranking hits, but if you only want to do this, sorting afterwards is quite
> straightforward.
>
Just to clarify.. And I know it may seem strange...
But I'll mostly be conducting "long" phrase (3 or 4 word) searches on
the index.
So I don't expect that many hits to appear given that all I have are
5-grams.

If I have above 50 hits then problem solved, need not do anything else.
If I have below 50 hits then I want to look at the frequency count of
the hits I got.

Anyway.... I was just curious about the behavior.
My fault. Thanks for all the ideas.

> Another idea is to not index the count itself, but more use the count as a
> boost factor for each document. The ranking algorithm of lucene will then
> boost docs with higher counts to the top results. But notice: The boost is
> combined with the already available boots (multiplied), so the sorting will
> be a combination of boost and native lucene rank. You can try to overcome
> that by scaling the boost very large (factor 10 or so should be enough for
> 5-grams).
>
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> H.-H.-Meier-Allee 63, D-28213 Bremen
> http://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe [at] thetaphi
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nuno Seco [mailto:nseco [at] dei]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:08 PM
>> To: java-user [at] lucene
>> Subject: Re: OutOfMemoryError when using Sort
>>
>> Ok. Thanks.
>>
>> The doc. says:
>> "Finds the top |n| hits for |query|, applying |filter| if non-null, and
>> sorting the hits by the criteria in |sort|."
>>
>> I understood that only the hits (50 in this) for the current search
>> would be sorted...
>> I'll just do the ordering afterwards. Thank you for clarifying this issue.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Nuno Seco
>>
>>
>> Jake Mannix wrote:
>>
>>> Sorting utilizes a FieldCache: the forward lookup - the value a document
>>>
>> has
>>
>>> for a
>>> particular field (as opposed to the usual "inverted" way of looking at
>>>
>> all
>>
>>> documents
>>> which contains a given term), which lives in memory, and takes up as
>>>
>> much
>>
>>> space
>>> as one 4-bytes * numDocs.
>>>
>>> If you've indexed the entire 5Gram data set on one index, on one
>>>
>> machine,
>>
>>> you've
>>> got how many documents? Billions? This will take up billions*4bytes of
>>>
>> RAM
>>
>>> to
>>> do this sort.
>>>
>>> You need to shard your index (break it up onto multiple machines, do
>>>
>> your
>>
>>> sort
>>> distributed, and merge the results) if you want to do this sorting with
>>>
>> any
>>
>>> kind
>>> of performance.
>>>
>>> -jake
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Nuno Seco <nseco [at] dei> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello List.
>>>>
>>>> I'm having a problem when I add a Sort object to my searcher:
>>>> docs = searcher.search(parser.parse(search), null, 50, sort);
>>>>
>>>> Every time I execute a query I get an OutOfMemoryError exception.
>>>> But if I execute the query without the Sort object it works fine
>>>>
>>>> Let me briefly explain how my index is structured.
>>>> I'm indexing the Google 5Grams
>>>> (
>>>> http://googleresearch.blogspot.com/2006/08/all-our-n-gram-are-belong-
>>>>
>> to-you.html).
>>
>>>> The index just has two fields:
>>>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.YES,
>>>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>>> count = new Field("count", tokens[1], Field.Store.YES,
>>>> Field.Index.NO, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>>>
>>>> the data corresponds to the 5 gram; e.g.: "my business manager informed
>>>>
>> me"
>>
>>>> and the count is simply an integer that represents the frequency of the
>>>> ngram.
>>>>
>>>> The index size after optimization is 63G.
>>>>
>>>> If I do not store the data field using:
>>>> data = new Field("data", tokens[0], Field.Store.NO,
>>>> Field.Index.ANALYZED, Field.TermVector.NO);
>>>> the total size drops to 32G
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But using either index with the Sort object causes the exception. I'm
>>>> creating the Sort object like:
>>>> Sort sort = new Sort(new SortField("count", SortField.INT));
>>>>
>>>> Note: That even with out using the Sort object I still need to pump the
>>>> jvm to 2G (-Xmx2048m). But thats ok...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So.... Basically what I want is to order those first 50 hits I get
>>>> according to their frequency counts (count field).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm using:
>>>> java version "1.6.0_16" (64 bit)
>>>> lucene 2.9.1
>>>> linux ext3 FS
>>>> linux kernel 2.6.31-15
>>>>
>>>> Can anybody help me or redirect me in the right direction?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Nuno Seco
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscribe [at] lucene
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