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Apr 26, 2012, 3:50 PM

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Michael McCandless commented on SOLR-3296:
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+1 to pull Noggit from it's official release, and stop using the source-copied version.

Can someone who understands the Maven side do what's necessary here? Sonatype worked great for langdetect, I think?

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> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
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> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch
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> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Apr 26, 2012, 3:56 PM

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Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296:
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I keep threatening to commit that patch only because:
* i think its more legit to have this real release than code-copied from apache labs. I think
it undeniably makes our release more clean.
* i left the patch up for a month already for someone to go thru whatever that process is
to get it in maven.

I don't actually follow thru on my threats YET because:
* i worry someone will not do the right thing with maven, instead just revert back to
fake release of other peoples stuff, which I helped work on to remove.
* if someone does such a thing, i feel the maven artifacts are unreleasable, e.g.
we are actually back in commons-csv state. So what would we do? exclude maven artifacts
from any release candidate in this case and just everyone argues about it? or it falls
back on the release manager to deal with?

> Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
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> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Apr 26, 2012, 4:02 PM

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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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This feel off my radar a little as I became distracted by other issues, but I'll prepare a release and submit it to Sonatype today.

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> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
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> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch
>
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> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Apr 26, 2012, 4:08 PM

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Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296:
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Chris: thank you!

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> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
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> Issue Type: Improvement
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> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Apr 26, 2012, 8:03 PM

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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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I have submitted it for processing, we'll see how things go.

> Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
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>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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May 1, 2012, 6:59 AM

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Steven Rowe commented on SOLR-3296:
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Chris,

I don't see org.noggit:noggit up on Maven Central yet, so I guess your request has hit a snag - do you know what's happening?

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> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
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> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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May 1, 2012, 4:56 PM

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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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Funny you ask,

When I submitted the bundle I received the same 'Staging Completed' notification as I did when I submitted langdetect. A relevant snippet from the email:

{noformat}
The following artifacts have been staged to the Central Bundles-102 (u:MYUSERNAME, a:122.59.251.231) repository.
{noformat}

with all the appropriate artifacts listed.

Just today I received a 'Staging Repository Dropped' notification with only the following information:

{noformat}
The Central Bundles-102 (u:MYUSERNAME, a:122.59.251.231) staging repository has been dropped.
{noformat}

When langdetect was accepted, I received a 'Promotion Completed' email, so I think this is a bad sign but I've received no information about why it was rejected and don't know how to proceed further.

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>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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May 6, 2012, 6:44 PM

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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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After some research (thanks Steven), it seems the likely cause of the failure is that their repositories timeout after some period if they aren't synced to the central repository. Because I submitted the bundle on a Friday, it perhaps didn't get looked into until too late.

So I've resubmitted the bundle (on a Monday now), fingers crossed.

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>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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May 7, 2012, 1:14 PM

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Steven Rowe commented on SOLR-3296:
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Noggit is now up [on Maven Central|http://search.maven.org/#artifactdetails%7Corg.noggit%7Cnoggit%7C0.5%7Cjar].

> Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
> -----------------------------------
>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Robert Muir commented on SOLR-3296:
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Thanks for the ping. I'll work up a new patch in a few days if nobody else wants to take it (dont hesitate),
I'm just currently working on some other issues right now.

Ivy parts should be pretty easy either way.

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> -----------------------------------
>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
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> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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Chris Male commented on SOLR-3296:
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bq. Noggit is now up on Maven Central.

Yup I received notification today. So all I need to remember in the future is not to submit near the weekend.

> Explore alternatives to Commons CSV
> -----------------------------------
>
> Key: SOLR-3296
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-3296
> Project: Solr
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Components: Build
> Reporter: Chris Male
> Attachments: SOLR-3295-CSV-tests.patch, SOLR-3296_noggit.patch, pom.xml, pom.xml
>
>
> In LUCENE-3930 we're implementing some less than ideal solutions to make available the unreleased version of commons-csv. We could remove these solutions if we didn't rely on this lib. So I think we should explore alternatives.
> I think [opencsv|http://opencsv.sourceforge.net/] is an alternative to consider, I've used it in many commercial projects. Bizarrely Commons-CSV's website says that Opencsv uses a BSD license, but this isn't the case, OpenCSV uses ASL2.

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