lmb at suse
Dec 8, 2007, 6:56 AM
Post #10 of 11
On 2007-12-07T14:55:31, Alan Robertson <alanr [at] unix> wrote:
Re: Re: [Linux-ha-dev] ANNOUNCE: Project Organization - CRM to become its own project
[In reply to]
> Because of the surprise timing of this announcement, right in the last
> phases of a release, and during time when I'm supposed to be on vacation,
> I'm postponing discussion on this until at least Monday to give me a chance
> to get testing back on track.
It is not "surprising" to you; you've asked me a few days before when we
were going to announce this. And we've discussed this several times over
the last two years at least.
It has nothing to do with the current release; as Andrew pointed out,
this split is post-2.1.3, while 2.1.3 is still going to be a single
We did not now you were on vacation(*).
> Although I did get some hints that this _might_ happen, I certainly didn't
> know it was going to, or when - I need a few days to get a better
> perspective on it.
> So for now, I ask that we postpone discussion on this matter.
There is very little to discuss on the matter itself, except possibly
the technical implementation details. But even those are fairly obvious,
unless one gets political about them - new CRM packages require
heartbeat to be installed, all is well.
I'd like again to mention that this is not a fork, as you kept saying;
we're splitting out what, in so many ways, is a separate project anyway.
It isn't two maintainers disagreeing - because the CRM part of the code
always only had just one maintainer.
We have the highest respect for the user base and wish to continue to
provide them with a seamless experience.
However, your immediate reaction may have reminded everybody that
there's also a non-technical aspect to this split; and I believe that
this split can only be good for our users and customers.
And, quite seriously, my nerves.
(*): It is probably not be very polite to point out that you yourself
insisted that vacations during the 2.1.3 release ought to be put up on
the web at http://wiki.linux-ha.org/ReleaseTesting/2.1.3, including
schedule changes, and how well the discussion on release management was
handled etc; but while impolite, it might help to underline some other
points as well.
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