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martin.loschwitz at linbit

Nov 3, 2009, 7:32 AM

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped

Ladies and Gentleman,

i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).

These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally and
ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually changed;
here are the most important things to keep in mind when using them:

* pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.

* openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.

* the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have heartbeat
2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get pacemaker.
all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to work
with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
going to be fine (more on this can be found in the Clusterlabs-
Wiki)

* Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we can
easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in good
condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your cluster
via a GTK tool.

The new packages can as always be found on:

deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main

--
: Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63 :
: LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82 :
: Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria http://www.linbit.com :

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romainchanu at gmail

Nov 3, 2009, 5:35 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

Hi Martin,

Could you tell us what's the rationale to remove openais and include
corosync?

Would it mean that people should use corosync from now on for any HA
development?

Best Regards,

Romain Chanu

2009/11/3 Martin Gerhard Loschwitz <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit>

> Ladies and Gentleman,
>
> i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
> for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).
>
> These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally and
> ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually changed;
> here are the most important things to keep in mind when using them:
>
> * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
> only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
> built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
> messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.
>
> * openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.
>
> * the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have heartbeat
> 2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get pacemaker.
> all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to work
> with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
> going to be fine (more on this can be found in the Clusterlabs-
> Wiki)
>
> * Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we can
> easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in good
> condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your cluster
> via a GTK tool.
>
> The new packages can as always be found on:
>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha>lenny main
> deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha>lenny main
>
> --
> : Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63 :
> : LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82 :
> : Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria http://www.linbit.com :
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
>

lbigum at iseek

Nov 3, 2009, 5:41 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

The OpenAIS project has split into Corosync and OpenAIS. Someone else might be able to explain it better, but Corosync now contains the core clustering components the openais package used to have (aisexec, etc), while the OpenAIS project just contains the SA Forum API stuff.

So, what most people once thought of as "OpenAIS" is now Corosync.

Luke Bigum
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From: Romain CHANU [mailto:romainchanu [at] gmail]
Sent: Wednesday 4 November 2009 11:36 AM
To: pacemaker [at] oss
Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped

Hi Martin,

Could you tell us what's the rationale to remove openais and include corosync?

Would it mean that people should use corosync from now on for any HA development?

Best Regards,

Romain Chanu

2009/11/3 Martin Gerhard Loschwitz <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit<mailto:martin.loschwitz [at] linbit>>
Ladies and Gentleman,

i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).

These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally and
ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually changed;
here are the most important things to keep in mind when using them:

* pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.

* openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.

* the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have heartbeat
2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get pacemaker.
all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to work
with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
going to be fine (more on this can be found in the Clusterlabs-
Wiki)

* Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we can
easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in good
condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your cluster
via a GTK tool.

The new packages can as always be found on:

deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha> lenny main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha> lenny main

--
: Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63 :
: LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82 :
: Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria http://www.linbit.com :

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sdake at redhat

Nov 3, 2009, 10:20 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 11:41 +1000, Luke Bigum wrote:
> The OpenAIS project has split into Corosync and OpenAIS. Someone else
> might be able to explain it better, but Corosync now contains the core
> clustering components the openais package used to have (aisexec, etc),
> while the OpenAIS project just contains the SA Forum API stuff.
>
>

>From the maintainer of both openais and corosync, this is an accurate
description.

All of the features of openais that pacemaker used previously are now
integrated into Corosync. Those features have been removed by openais
and now openais contains only the SA Forum APIs.

Regards
-steve

>
> So, what most people once thought of as "OpenAIS" is now Corosync.
>
>
>
> Luke Bigum
>
> Systems Administrator
>
> (p) 1300 661 668
>
> (f) 1300 661 540
>
> (e) lbigum [at] iseek
>
> http://www.iseek.com.au
>
> Level 1, 100 Ipswich Road Woolloongabba QLD 4102
>
>
>
> iseekbar.jpg
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential
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> Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly
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>
> From: Romain CHANU [mailto:romainchanu [at] gmail]
> Sent: Wednesday 4 November 2009 11:36 AM
> To: pacemaker [at] oss
> Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker
> 1.0.6, completely revamped
>
>
>
>
> Hi Martin,
>
> Could you tell us what's the rationale to remove openais and include
> corosync?
>
> Would it mean that people should use corosync from now on for any HA
> development?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Romain Chanu
>
>
>
> 2009/11/3 Martin Gerhard Loschwitz <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit>
>
> Ladies and Gentleman,
>
> i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
> for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).
>
> These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally and
> ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually changed;
> here are the most important things to keep in mind when using them:
>
> * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
> only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
> built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
> messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.
>
> * openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.
>
> * the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have heartbeat
> 2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get pacemaker.
> all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to work
> with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
> going to be fine (more on this can be found in the Clusterlabs-
> Wiki)
>
> * Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we can
> easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in good
> condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your cluster
> via a GTK tool.
>
> The new packages can as always be found on:
>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
> deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
>
> --
> : Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63 :
> : LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82 :
> : Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria http://www.linbit.com :
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker

_______________________________________________
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Pacemaker [at] oss
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sdake at redhat

Nov 3, 2009, 10:24 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 09:35 +0800, Romain CHANU wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Could you tell us what's the rationale to remove openais and include
> corosync?
>
> Would it mean that people should use corosync from now on for any HA
> development?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Romain Chanu
>

Just a short note I would also recommend making available the latest
openais packages which complement both corosync and pacemaker with sa
forum complaint apis.

Regards
-steve

>
> 2009/11/3 Martin Gerhard Loschwitz <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit>
> Ladies and Gentleman,
>
> i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6
> packages
> for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).
>
> These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally
> and
> ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually
> changed;
> here are the most important things to keep in mind when using
> them:
>
> * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone;
> pacemaker now
> only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and
> heartbeat
> built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by
> which
> messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.
>
> * openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.
>
> * the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have
> heartbeat
> 2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get
> pacemaker.
> all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to
> work
> with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
> going to be fine (more on this can be found in the
> Clusterlabs-
> Wiki)
>
> * Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we
> can
> easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in
> good
> condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your
> cluster
> via a GTK tool.
>
> The new packages can as always be found on:
>
> deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
> deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
>
> --
> : Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63
> :
> : LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82
> :
> : Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria
> http://www.linbit.com :
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker

_______________________________________________
Pacemaker mailing list
Pacemaker [at] oss
http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker

romainchanu at gmail

Nov 3, 2009, 11:09 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

So what about this:
http://theclusterguy.clusterlabs.org/post/205886990/advisory-dont-use-pacemaker-on-corosync-yet

Is pacemaker 1.0.6 able to run correctly with corosync?

I am still at a stage where I need to decide for the implementation of my HA
solution. For a design with pacemaker / corosync, there is no need to use
openais anymore, right?

Cheers,

Romain Chanu

2009/11/4 Steven Dake <sdake [at] redhat>

> On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 09:35 +0800, Romain CHANU wrote:
> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Could you tell us what's the rationale to remove openais and include
> > corosync?
> >
> > Would it mean that people should use corosync from now on for any HA
> > development?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Romain Chanu
> >
>
> Just a short note I would also recommend making available the latest
> openais packages which complement both corosync and pacemaker with sa
> forum complaint apis.
>
> Regards
> -steve
>
> >
> > 2009/11/3 Martin Gerhard Loschwitz <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit>
> > Ladies and Gentleman,
> >
> > i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6
> > packages
> > for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).
> >
> > These packages are a remarkable break, as they have totally
> > and
> > ruthlessly been revamped. The whole layout has actually
> > changed;
> > here are the most important things to keep in mind when using
> > them:
> >
> > * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone;
> > pacemaker now
> > only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and
> > heartbeat
> > built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by
> > which
> > messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.
> >
> > * openais is gone. pacemaker 1.0.6 uses corosync.
> >
> > * the new layout allows flawless updates. if you have
> > heartbeat
> > 2.1.4 and do a dist-upgrade, you will automatically get
> > pacemaker.
> > all you need to do afterwards is converting the xml-file to
> > work
> > with pacemaker -- you can then start heartbeat, and things are
> > going to be fine (more on this can be found in the
> > Clusterlabs-
> > Wiki)
> >
> > * Now that we finally have a decent layout for pacemaker, we
> > can
> > easily provide gui packages: welcome pacemaker-mgmt, being in
> > good
> > condition and shape now, allowing you do administer your
> > cluster
> > via a GTK tool.
> >
> > The new packages can as always be found on:
> >
> > deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha>lenny main
> > deb-src http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha<http://people.debian.org/%7Emadkiss/ha>lenny main
> >
> > --
> > : Martin G. Loschwitz Tel +43-1-8178292-63
> > :
> > : LINBIT Information Technologies GmbH Fax +43-1-8178292-82
> > :
> > : Vivenotgasse 48, 1120 Vienna, Austria
> > http://www.linbit.com :
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pacemaker mailing list
> > Pacemaker [at] oss
> > http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Pacemaker mailing list
> > Pacemaker [at] oss
> > http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pacemaker mailing list
> Pacemaker [at] oss
> http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker
>

andrew at beekhof

Nov 3, 2009, 11:40 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Romain CHANU <romainchanu [at] gmail> wrote:
> So what about this:
> http://theclusterguy.clusterlabs.org/post/205886990/advisory-dont-use-pacemaker-on-corosync-yet
>
> Is pacemaker 1.0.6 able to run correctly with corosync?

Yes.
I did mention it in the release notes, but I'll also indicate it more
prominently.

The RPM packages will also be built against corosync.

>
> I am still at a stage where I need to decide for the implementation of my HA
> solution. For a design with pacemaker / corosync, there is no need to use
> openais anymore, right?

Not unless one of the services you wish to provide (eg. ocfs2 or clvm) needs it.

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colin.hch at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 5:32 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Martin Gerhard Loschwitz
<martin.loschwitz [at] linbit> wrote:
>
> i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
> for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).

Great, thanks!

> * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
> only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
> built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
> messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.

One question: AFAICS the package dependencies automatically install
corosync, but not heartbeat; so in order to use pacemaker with
heartbeat we need to (a) disable corosync in /etc/rcS.d, and (b)
manually install heartbeat?

It also seems that http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Install and
http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Initial_Configuration seem to be
hopelessly out of date; suppose I wanted to try out pacemaker with
corosync from the latest packages, what do I minimally need to set up?

Thanks, Colin

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colin.hch at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 6:03 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Colin <colin.hch [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Martin Gerhard Loschwitz wrote:
>
> One question: AFAICS the package dependencies automatically install
> corosync, but not heartbeat; so in order to use pacemaker with
> heartbeat we need to (a) disable corosync in /etc/rcS.d, and (b)
> manually install heartbeat?

Ok, nothing do disable -- /etc/default/corosync sets START to no (how
many more switches do we need for one and the same thing?).

But why _is_ corosync in rcS.d, rather than rc2.d?

Thanks, Colin

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andrew at beekhof

Nov 4, 2009, 8:47 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Colin <colin.hch [at] gmail> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Martin Gerhard Loschwitz
> <martin.loschwitz [at] linbit> wrote:
>>
>> i am happy to announce the availability of Pacemaker 1.0.6 packages
>> for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 alias Lenny (i386 and amd64).
>
> Great, thanks!
>
>> * pacemaker-openais and pacemaker-heartbeat are gone; pacemaker now
>> only comes in one flavour, having support for corosync and heartbeat
>> built it. This is based on pacemaker's capability to detect by which
>> messaging framework it has been started and act accordingly.
>
> One question: AFAICS the package dependencies automatically install
> corosync, but not heartbeat; so in order to use pacemaker with
> heartbeat we need to (a) disable corosync in /etc/rcS.d, and (b)
> manually install heartbeat?
>
> It also seems that http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Install and
> http://clusterlabs.org/wiki/Initial_Configuration seem to be
> hopelessly out of date; suppose I wanted to try out pacemaker with
> corosync from the latest packages, what do I minimally need to set up?

Hopelessly out of date?
Corosync has been supported for all of 3 days now.

Sheesh.

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colin.hch at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 3:06 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Andrew Beekhof <andrew [at] beekhof> wrote:
>
> Hopelessly out of date?
> Corosync has been supported for all of 3 days now.

Sorry, it seems that I jumped to a wrong conclusion (namely that with
Corosync being a part of OpenAIS, and Pacemaker having run on OpenAIS
for a while, that there wasn't much difference to supporting Corosync
instea of OpenAIS -- shows that I'm still quite ignorant about some of
the internals.)

Actually, I set up Pacemaker with Corosync from the new packages, just
to see what it looks like, and it was so easy that we'll stick to it
for the next round of tests, i.o.w., the details of the cluster
underneath Pacemaker are so well hidden that (a) it doesn't make much
difference, and (b) my ignorance in that area never was a problem: It
just works.

-Colin

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sdake at redhat

Nov 4, 2009, 3:15 PM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 00:06 +0100, Colin wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Andrew Beekhof <andrew [at] beekhof> wrote:
> >
> > Hopelessly out of date?
> > Corosync has been supported for all of 3 days now.
>
> Sorry, it seems that I jumped to a wrong conclusion (namely that with
> Corosync being a part of OpenAIS, and Pacemaker having run on OpenAIS
> for a while, that there wasn't much difference to supporting Corosync
> instea of OpenAIS -- shows that I'm still quite ignorant about some of
> the internals.)
>
> Actually, I set up Pacemaker with Corosync from the new packages, just
> to see what it looks like, and it was so easy that we'll stick to it
> for the next round of tests, i.o.w., the details of the cluster
> underneath Pacemaker are so well hidden that (a) it doesn't make much
> difference, and (b) my ignorance in that area never was a problem: It
> just works.
>
> -Colin

The intent with Corosync was that the migration path for users is mostly
seamless and we have more or less nailed that with the exception of a
few different configuration file renaming and CLI binary renaming (and
of course a new ABI for Pacemaker to program to, which was not painless
for Andrew:).

Regards
-steve
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Nov 5, 2009, 1:58 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

Hello,

>deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main

On my systems, this repository seems to break Debian upgrades:

| clmgmt:~# aptitude dist-upgrade
| Reading package lists... Done
| Building dependency tree
| Reading state information... Done
| Reading extended state information
| Initializing package states... Done
| Reading task descriptions... Done
| The following packages are BROKEN:
| util-linux
| The following NEW packages will be installed:
| dmsetup{a} libudev0{a}
| The following packages will be upgraded:
| lvm2 udev
| 3 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
| Need to get 1683kB of archives. After unpacking 1573kB will be used.
| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
| util-linux: Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.4) but 1.14.25 is installed. or
| install-info which is a virtual package.
| The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
|
| Keep the following packages at their current version:
| dmsetup [Not Installed]
| lvm2 [2.02.39-7 (stable, now)]
| udev [0.125-7+lenny3 (stable, now)]
| util-linux [2.13.1.1-1 (stable, now)]
|
| Score is 265

It looks like a newer Version of dpkg is needed, which is not part
of Debian stable.

The system is a pure lenny amd64 installation with all current security
updates.

| clmgmt:~# uname -a
| Linux clmgmt 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 19 02:34:17 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

| clmgmt:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
| deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
| deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
| deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
|
| deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main

Regards,
Harald

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Nov 5, 2009, 2:05 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Harald Weidner <hweidner-lists [at] gmx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>>deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
>
> On my systems, this repository seems to break Debian upgrades:

Be patient with Madkiss, its a huge amount of work that goes into
creating a repo like this.

The util-linux dependency is coming from clvm IIRC, it needs something
that isn't yet available in backports or something like that.
I know he's very active trying to get it all working seemlessly.

>
> �| clmgmt:~# aptitude dist-upgrade
> �| Reading package lists... Done
> �| Building dependency tree
> �| Reading state information... Done
> �| Reading extended state information
> �| Initializing package states... Done
> �| Reading task descriptions... Done
> �| The following packages are BROKEN:
> �| � util-linux
> �| The following NEW packages will be installed:
> �| � dmsetup{a} libudev0{a}
> �| The following packages will be upgraded:
> �| � lvm2 udev
> �| 3 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> �| Need to get 1683kB of archives. After unpacking 1573kB will be used.
> �| The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> �| � util-linux: Depends: dpkg (>= 1.15.4) but 1.14.25 is installed. or
> �| � � � � � � � � � � � �install-info which is a virtual package.
> �| The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> �|
> �| Keep the following packages at their current version:
> �| dmsetup [Not Installed]
> �| lvm2 [2.02.39-7 (stable, now)]
> �| udev [0.125-7+lenny3 (stable, now)]
> �| util-linux [2.13.1.1-1 (stable, now)]
> �|
> �| Score is 265
>
> It looks like a newer Version of dpkg is needed, which is not part
> of Debian stable.
>
> The system is a pure lenny amd64 installation with all current security
> updates.
>
> �| clmgmt:~# uname -a
> �| Linux clmgmt 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 19 02:34:17 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> �| clmgmt:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> �| deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
> �| deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
> �| deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
> �|
> �| deb http://people.debian.org/~madkiss/ha lenny main
>
> Regards,
> Harald
>
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Nov 5, 2009, 2:55 AM

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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Debian Packages for Pacemaker 1.0.6, completely revamped [In reply to]

Hello,

>Be patient with Madkiss, its a huge amount of work that goes into
>creating a repo like this.

Sure. My mail was meant as trouble tracking information, not as complaint.
This repository is really great work! Sorry that I did not mention it
explicitely.

Regards,
Harald

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