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ric at emc

Aug 1, 2006, 11:21 AM


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Alan Cox wrote:
> Ar Maw, 2006-08-01 am 16:52 +0200, ysgrifennodd Adrian Ulrich:
>
>>WriteCache, Mirroring between 2 Datacenters, snapshotting.. etc..
>>you don't need your filesystem beeing super-robust against bad sectors
>>and such stuff because:
>
>
> You do it turns out. Its becoming an issue more and more that the sheer
> amount of storage means that the undetected error rate from disks,
> hosts, memory, cables and everything else is rising.


I agree with Alan despite being an enthusiastic supporter of neat array
based technologies.

Most people use absolutely giant disks in laptops and desktop systems
(300GB & 500GB are common, 750GB on the way). File systems need to be as
robust as possible for users of these systems as people are commonly
storing personal "critical" data like photos mostly on these unprotected
drives.

Even for the high end users, array based mirroring and so on can only do
so much to protect you.

Mirroring a corrupt file system to a remote data center will mirror your
corruption.

Rolling back to a snapshot typically only happens when you notice a
corruption which can go undetected for quite a while, so even that will
benefit from having "reliability" baked into the file system (i.e., it
should grumble about corruption to let you know that you need to roll
back or fsck or whatever).

An even larger issue is that our tools, like fsck, which are used to
uncover these silent corruptions need to scale up to the point that they
can uncover issues in minutes instead of days. A lot of the focus at
the file system workshop was around how to dramatically reduce the
repair time of file systems.

In a way, having super reliable storage hardware is only as good as the
file system layer on top of it - reliability needs to be baked into the
entire IO system stack...

ric


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the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 21, 2006, 12:46 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 21, 2006, 5:18 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion diegocg at gmail Jul 22, 2006, 12:19 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Jul 22, 2006, 6:02 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion sandeen at sandeen Jul 22, 2006, 7:30 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 22, 2006, 11:33 AM
            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jeff at garzik Jul 22, 2006, 1:29 PM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 23, 2006, 12:20 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion lkml at lpbproductions Jul 23, 2006, 2:12 AM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 23, 2006, 9:01 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 24, 2006, 1:54 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 24, 2006, 1:13 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 24, 2006, 3:25 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion chrivers at iversen-net Jul 24, 2006, 4:34 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion erik at harddisk-recovery Jul 24, 2006, 5:37 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ipso at snappymail Jul 24, 2006, 9:57 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 24, 2006, 10:35 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Valdis.Kletnieks at vt Jul 24, 2006, 11:28 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 24, 2006, 11:06 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ipso at snappymail Jul 24, 2006, 1:37 PM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 24, 2006, 2:22 PM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 24, 2006, 2:51 PM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vda.linux at googlemail Jul 25, 2006, 8:08 AM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 25, 2006, 1:49 PM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 25, 2006, 4:04 PM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 26, 2006, 4:20 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 26, 2006, 4:26 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion be-news06 at lina Jul 26, 2006, 6:02 AM
                                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion buddy.lucas at gmail Jul 26, 2006, 11:54 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 26, 2006, 6:29 PM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 25, 2006, 5:29 PM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion dlang at digitalinsight Jul 25, 2006, 5:36 PM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Jul 31, 2006, 3:58 AM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 7:47 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Jul 31, 2006, 8:59 AM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 9:22 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 31, 2006, 9:44 AM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion be-news06 at lina Jul 31, 2006, 10:34 AM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 11:36 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion rudy at edsons Jul 31, 2006, 9:44 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion doglesby at teleformix Jul 31, 2006, 9:47 AM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 10:16 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 10:34 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion doglesby at teleformix Jul 31, 2006, 10:44 AM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 9:54 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Jul 31, 2006, 10:56 AM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 1:07 PM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Jul 31, 2006, 1:32 PM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Jul 31, 2006, 12:41 PM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 3:53 PM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 31, 2006, 7:33 PM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion helgehaf at aitel Aug 1, 2006, 3:40 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion venom at sns Aug 1, 2006, 3:59 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 31, 2006, 9:52 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jengelh at linux01 Jul 31, 2006, 11:22 PM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion pavel at ucw Jul 26, 2006, 6:17 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion kangur at polcom Jul 27, 2006, 8:39 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 27, 2006, 10:28 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 27, 2006, 7:40 PM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jeff at garzik Jul 27, 2006, 10:56 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 27, 2006, 12:06 PM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 27, 2006, 7:26 PM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 23, 2006, 4:48 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jeffm at suse Jul 23, 2006, 1:46 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 23, 2006, 2:15 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jeffm at suse Jul 23, 2006, 4:22 PM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 23, 2006, 3:35 PM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion cattelan at thebarn Jul 25, 2006, 12:13 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 25, 2006, 4:51 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 26, 2006, 7:26 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion cattelan at thebarn Jul 26, 2006, 11:16 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 26, 2006, 6:19 PM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 25, 2006, 5:44 PM
                        Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 26, 2006, 12:59 AM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 3:04 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 27, 2006, 4:07 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion cat at zip Jul 27, 2006, 5:21 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 27, 2006, 7:25 PM
                                    Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 28, 2006, 3:01 AM
                                    Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 28, 2006, 7:05 AM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 4:35 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 27, 2006, 4:43 AM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 4:56 AM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 27, 2006, 6:30 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion gmu2006 at gmail Jul 27, 2006, 6:42 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 6:50 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 27, 2006, 7:31 AM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jim at why Jul 27, 2006, 11:37 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 12:34 PM
                            Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 27, 2006, 11:43 AM
                                Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 1:11 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 26, 2006, 7:33 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tao at acc Jul 26, 2006, 3:38 AM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 24, 2006, 1:41 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 24, 2006, 1:09 AM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 24, 2006, 3:32 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 24, 2006, 6:49 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion rene at exactcode Jul 23, 2006, 12:20 AM
            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion nikita at clusterfs Jul 24, 2006, 12:49 AM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at suse Jul 25, 2006, 5:35 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion rene at exactcode Jul 25, 2006, 5:51 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 25, 2006, 10:47 AM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion biscani at pd Jul 25, 2006, 12:20 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 25, 2006, 2:17 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jim at why Jul 25, 2006, 3:48 PM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 25, 2006, 4:48 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 25, 2006, 4:45 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 26, 2006, 5:45 AM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 6:29 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 26, 2006, 6:43 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 7:28 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 26, 2006, 7:50 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 9:06 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 26, 2006, 9:53 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bfields at fieldses Jul 26, 2006, 10:02 AM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 10:20 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ngc891 at gmail Jul 26, 2006, 12:01 PM
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                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bfields at fieldses Jul 26, 2006, 2:37 PM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 3:17 PM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 26, 2006, 11:56 PM
                                                                    Re: the ' 'official' point of view' expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion genoni at sns Jul 27, 2006, 1:33 AM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 4:52 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 5:18 AM
                                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 6:10 AM
                                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 6:58 AM
                                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 7:45 AM
                                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bunk at stusta Jul 27, 2006, 8:05 AM
                                                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 27, 2006, 9:11 AM
                                                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 27, 2006, 7:25 PM
                                                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 28, 2006, 7:31 AM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 27, 2006, 6:47 PM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 26, 2006, 9:35 PM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Jul 27, 2006, 6:26 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion lord at xfs Jul 23, 2006, 7:08 PM
            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion nikita at clusterfs Jul 24, 2006, 12:53 AM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Jul 24, 2006, 3:30 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion galibert at pobox Jul 24, 2006, 4:35 AM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Jul 24, 2006, 6:39 AM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion galibert at pobox Jul 24, 2006, 8:38 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Jul 24, 2006, 9:17 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion galibert at pobox Jul 24, 2006, 10:50 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jeff at garzik Jul 24, 2006, 11:29 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion pavel at ucw Jul 26, 2006, 6:08 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion galibert at pobox Jul 27, 2006, 8:52 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion alan at lxorguk Jul 27, 2006, 9:43 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion Valdis.Kletnieks at vt Jul 25, 2006, 2:44 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion LuukvanderDuim at pahw Jul 22, 2006, 8:21 AM
    RE: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andre.goddard at gmail Jul 23, 2006, 11:26 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion pj at sgi Jul 24, 2006, 3:17 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Jul 25, 2006, 1:05 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 25, 2006, 5:47 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion LuukvanderDuim at pahw Jul 26, 2006, 5:43 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion andrea at cpushare Jul 26, 2006, 1:50 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 10:20 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 10:32 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion doglesby at teleformix Jul 31, 2006, 10:46 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 11:11 AM
            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 11:43 AM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion clay.barnes at gmail Jul 31, 2006, 12:17 PM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jbglaw at lug-owl Jul 31, 2006, 12:29 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 31, 2006, 1:00 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.orgregarding reiser4 inclusion dlang at digitalinsight Jul 31, 2006, 1:53 PM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.orgregarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 31, 2006, 2:16 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion bernd-schubert at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 2:14 PM
                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion vonbrand at inf Aug 1, 2006, 7:28 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Aug 1, 2006, 7:52 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion alan at lxorguk Aug 1, 2006, 8:20 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 1, 2006, 9:44 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion gmaxwell at gmail Aug 1, 2006, 10:04 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion alan at lxorguk Aug 1, 2006, 10:19 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 1, 2006, 4:36 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 1, 2006, 10:40 AM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion khc at pm Aug 1, 2006, 12:27 PM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Aug 3, 2006, 6:58 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Aug 1, 2006, 11:11 AM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ric at emc Aug 1, 2006, 11:21 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 1, 2006, 4:41 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Aug 3, 2006, 7:03 AM
                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion edward at namesys Aug 3, 2006, 8:44 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 3, 2006, 10:26 AM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion edward at namesys Aug 4, 2006, 10:04 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion windenntw at gmail Aug 4, 2006, 11:57 AM
                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 4, 2006, 5:56 PM
                                                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion edward at namesys Aug 6, 2006, 3:19 PM
                                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 9, 2006, 1:40 AM
                                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jengelh at linux01 Aug 9, 2006, 4:53 AM
                                                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 9, 2006, 8:48 AM
                                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Aug 7, 2006, 12:57 AM
                                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion edward at namesys Aug 8, 2006, 4:06 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 1, 2006, 12:11 PM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Aug 3, 2006, 7:03 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion tytso at mit Aug 3, 2006, 9:50 AM
                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 1, 2006, 9:57 AM
                                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion pavel at ucw Aug 6, 2006, 3:59 PM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 6, 2006, 4:36 PM
                                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 9, 2006, 1:37 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion pavel at suse Aug 9, 2006, 2:48 AM
                                                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 9, 2006, 2:15 AM
                                            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 9, 2006, 8:52 AM
                    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion alan at lxorguk Jul 31, 2006, 12:42 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion clay.barnes at gmail Jul 31, 2006, 12:34 PM
                        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion gmaxwell at gmail Jul 31, 2006, 2:00 PM
                Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion matthias.andree at gmx Jul 31, 2006, 3:17 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion prymitive at pcserwis Jul 31, 2006, 2:21 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion alan at lxorguk Jul 31, 2006, 2:40 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Jul 31, 2006, 2:43 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup Jul 31, 2006, 2:54 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup Jul 31, 2006, 3:02 PM
            Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup Jul 31, 2006, 3:21 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion nate.diller at gmail Jul 31, 2006, 3:56 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup Jul 31, 2006, 4:52 PM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion nate.diller at gmail Jul 31, 2006, 4:43 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jmerkey at wolfmountaingroup Jul 31, 2006, 5:15 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 1, 2006, 5:01 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 1, 2006, 10:41 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser4 at blinkenlights Aug 1, 2006, 11:14 AM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion reiser at namesys Aug 4, 2006, 6:02 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion 7eggert at elstempel Aug 5, 2006, 12:38 PM
    Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion greg at enjellic Aug 7, 2006, 10:37 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion jengelh at linux01 Aug 7, 2006, 10:55 AM
        Re: the " 'official' point of view" expressed by kernelnewbies.org regarding reiser4 inclusion ninja at slaphack Aug 7, 2006, 11:34 AM

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