Login | Register For Free | Help
Search for: (Advanced)

Mailing List Archive: Linux: Kernel

[PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages.

 

 

Linux kernel RSS feed   Index | Next | Previous | View Threaded


marcheu at chromium

May 7, 2012, 4:13 PM

Post #1 of 9 (138 views)
Permalink
[PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages.

While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
(when it's used for GPU batch buffers).

I talked with some people at Intel and they confirmed my findings,
and said that a couple of other random pages were also affected.

We could fix this problem by adding an e820 region preventing the
memory below 1 MiB to be used, but that prevents at least my machine
from booting. One could think that we should be able to fix it in
i915, but since the allocation is done by the backing shmem this is
not possible.

In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
offending pages in shmem.c. I do realize it's truly ugly, but I'm
looking for a fix to the existing code, and am wondering if people on
this list have a better idea, short of rewriting i915_gem.c to
allocate its own pages directly.

Signed-off-by: Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium>

Change-Id: I957e125fb280e0b0d6b05a83cc4068df2f05aa0a
---
mm/shmem.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
1 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/mm/shmem.c b/mm/shmem.c
index 6c253f7..dcbb58b 100644
--- a/mm/shmem.c
+++ b/mm/shmem.c
@@ -768,6 +768,31 @@ redirty:
return 0;
}

+/*
+ * Some intel GPUs can't use those pages in the GTT, which results in
+ * graphics corruption. Sadly, it's impossible to prevent usage of those
+ * pages in the intel allocator.
+ *
+ * Instead, we test for those areas here and leak the corresponding pages.
+ *
+ * Some day, when the intel GPU memory is not backed by shmem any more,
+ * we'll be able to come up with a solution which is contained in i915.
+ */
+static bool i915_usable_page(struct page *page)
+{
+ dma_addr_t addr = page_to_phys(page);
+
+ if (unlikely((addr < 1 * 1024 * 1024) ||
+ (addr == 0x20050000) ||
+ (addr == 0x20110000) ||
+ (addr == 0x20130000) ||
+ (addr == 0x20138000) ||
+ (addr == 0x40004000)))
+ return false;
+
+ return true;
+}
+
#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
#ifdef CONFIG_TMPFS
static void shmem_show_mpol(struct seq_file *seq, struct mempolicy *mpol)
@@ -816,6 +841,7 @@ static struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
struct shmem_inode_info *info, pgoff_t index)
{
struct vm_area_struct pvma;
+ struct page *page;

/* Create a pseudo vma that just contains the policy */
pvma.vm_start = 0;
@@ -826,7 +852,11 @@ static struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
/*
* alloc_page_vma() will drop the shared policy reference
*/
- return alloc_page_vma(gfp, &pvma, 0);
+ do {
+ page = alloc_page_vma(gfp, &pvma, 0);
+ } while (!i915_usable_page(page));
+
+ return page;
}
#else /* !CONFIG_NUMA */
#ifdef CONFIG_TMPFS
@@ -844,7 +874,12 @@ static inline struct page *shmem_swapin(swp_entry_t swap, gfp_t gfp,
static inline struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
struct shmem_inode_info *info, pgoff_t index)
{
- return alloc_page(gfp);
+ struct page *page;
+ do {
+ page = alloc_page(gfp);
+ } while (!i915_usable_page(page));
+
+ return page;
}
#endif /* CONFIG_NUMA */

--
1.7.5.3.367.ga9930

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


andi at firstfloor

May 7, 2012, 4:57 PM

Post #2 of 9 (132 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium> writes:

> While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
> that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
> read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
> it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
> (when it's used for GPU batch buffers).

It would be possible to exlude GFP_DMA from the page allocator. That
covers the first 16MB. You just need a custom zone list with ZONE_DMA.

-Andi

--
ak [at] linux -- Speaking for myself only
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


airlied at gmail

May 7, 2012, 11:53 PM

Post #3 of 9 (130 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Stéphane Marchesin
<marcheu [at] chromium> wrote:
> While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
> that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
> read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
> it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
> (when it's used for GPU batch buffers).
>
> I talked with some people at Intel and they confirmed my findings,
> and said that a couple of other random pages were also affected.
>
> We could fix this problem by adding an e820 region preventing the
> memory below 1 MiB to be used, but that prevents at least my machine
> from booting. One could think that we should be able to fix it in
> i915, but since the allocation is done by the backing shmem this is
> not possible.
>
> In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> offending pages in shmem.c. I do realize it's truly ugly, but I'm
> looking for a fix to the existing code, and am wondering if people on
> this list have a better idea, short of rewriting i915_gem.c to
> allocate its own pages directly.

Ouch, can Intel get some details on why these pages are "special" and
if they are special across chipsets, Ironlake? Ivybridge?

Like I can handle the < 1MB but the other selected pages look pretty
random or misc, (2005, 2011, 2013? years?, 40004000, some shout out to
the 4004?

Dave.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


daniel at ffwll

May 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

Post #4 of 9 (136 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 07:53:36AM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:13 AM, Stéphane Marchesin
> <marcheu [at] chromium> wrote:
> > While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
> > that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
> > read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
> > it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
> > (when it's used for GPU batch buffers).
> >
> > I talked with some people at Intel and they confirmed my findings,
> > and said that a couple of other random pages were also affected.
> >
> > We could fix this problem by adding an e820 region preventing the
> > memory below 1 MiB to be used, but that prevents at least my machine
> > from booting. One could think that we should be able to fix it in
> > i915, but since the allocation is done by the backing shmem this is
> > not possible.
> >
> > In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> > offending pages in shmem.c. I do realize it's truly ugly, but I'm
> > looking for a fix to the existing code, and am wondering if people on
> > this list have a better idea, short of rewriting i915_gem.c to
> > allocate its own pages directly.
>
> Ouch, can Intel get some details on why these pages are "special" and
> if they are special across chipsets, Ironlake? Ivybridge?
>
> Like I can handle the < 1MB but the other selected pages look pretty
> random or misc, (2005, 2011, 2013? years?, 40004000, some shout out to
> the 4004?

I've discussed this with Stéphane, and that enumeration of 5 pages is
exhaustive. And both these 4 pages and the low 1mb block only cause
problems on snb (ivb and later is fixed). For the special pages the
official workaround is that the bios marks the two 2M blocks of memory at
512M and 1024M as reserved. And for the low 1M I guess Windows doesn't
hand out any of these to device drivers.
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel [at] ffwll
Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


torvalds at linux-foundation

May 8, 2012, 8:25 AM

Post #5 of 9 (133 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium> wrote:
>
> In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> offending pages in shmem.c.

Don't leak it.

Instead, add it to some RCU list, and free it using RCU. Or some
one-second timer or something.

That kind of approach should guarantee that it

(a) gets returned to the system

but

(b) the returning to the system gets delayed sufficiently that if the
i915 driver is doing lots of allocations it will be getting other
pages.

Hmm?

Linus
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


daniel at ffwll

May 8, 2012, 10:23 AM

Post #6 of 9 (131 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:25:38AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium> wrote:
> >
> > In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> > offending pages in shmem.c.
>
> Don't leak it.
>
> Instead, add it to some RCU list, and free it using RCU. Or some
> one-second timer or something.
>
> That kind of approach should guarantee that it
>
> (a) gets returned to the system
>
> but
>
> (b) the returning to the system gets delayed sufficiently that if the
> i915 driver is doing lots of allocations it will be getting other
> pages.
>
> Hmm?

The problem is also that this only affects Sandybdrige gpus, so we'd need
to funnel this down to shmfs somehow ... Rob Clarke from Linaro will be
working on a gemfs to make backing storage allocation more flexible - they
need that to support some arm gpus. That way round we wouldn't need to put
some ugly drm/i915 stuff into core shmfs. Rob?
-Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel [at] ffwll
Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


rob.clark at linaro

May 8, 2012, 11:03 AM

Post #7 of 9 (134 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Vetter <daniel [at] ffwll> wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 08:25:38AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Stéphane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium> wrote:
>> >
>> > In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
>> > offending pages in shmem.c.
>>
>> Don't leak it.
>>
>> Instead, add it to some RCU list, and free it using RCU. Or some
>> one-second timer or something.
>>
>> That kind of approach should guarantee that it
>>
>>  (a) gets returned to the system
>>
>> but
>>
>>  (b) the returning to the system gets delayed sufficiently that if the
>> i915 driver is doing lots of allocations it will be getting other
>> pages.
>>
>> Hmm?
>
> The problem is also that this only affects Sandybdrige gpus, so we'd need
> to funnel this down to shmfs somehow ... Rob Clarke from Linaro will be
> working on a gemfs to make backing storage allocation more flexible - they
> need that to support some arm gpus. That way round we wouldn't need to put
> some ugly drm/i915 stuff into core shmfs. Rob?

Well, a bit hand-wavey at this point, but the idea is to let the
driver have control of the page allocation via 'struct
address_space_operations'.. but otherwise work in a similar way as
shmfs.

Something like get_xip_mem() is almost what we want, except we don't
want it to populate the pages, we don't want to force a kernel
mapping, and shmem doesn't use it..

I suppose we still need a short term fix for i915, but at least it
would only be temporary.

BR,
-R

> -Daniel
> --
> Daniel Vetter
> Mail: daniel [at] ffwll
> Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48
> _______________________________________________
> dri-devel mailing list
> dri-devel [at] lists
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


hughd at google

May 8, 2012, 2:57 PM

Post #8 of 9 (130 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Mon, 7 May 2012, Stephane Marchesin wrote:

> While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
> that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
> read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
> it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
> (when it's used for GPU batch buffers).
>
> I talked with some people at Intel and they confirmed my findings,
> and said that a couple of other random pages were also affected.
>
> We could fix this problem by adding an e820 region preventing the
> memory below 1 MiB to be used, but that prevents at least my machine
> from booting. One could think that we should be able to fix it in
> i915, but since the allocation is done by the backing shmem this is
> not possible.
>
> In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> offending pages in shmem.c. I do realize it's truly ugly, but I'm
> looking for a fix to the existing code, and am wondering if people on
> this list have a better idea, short of rewriting i915_gem.c to
> allocate its own pages directly.
>
> Signed-off-by: Stephane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium>

Well done for discovering and pursuing this issue, but of course (as
you know: you're trying to provoke us to better) your patch is revolting.

And not even enough: swapin readahead and swapoff can read back
from swap into pages which the i915 will later turn out to dislike.

I do have a shmem.c patch coming up for gma500, which cannot use pages
over 4GB; but that fits more reasonably with memory allocation policies,
where we expect that anyone who can use a high page can use a lower as
well, and there's already __GFP_DMA32 to set the limit.

Your limitation is at the opposite end, so that patch won't help you at
all. And I don't see how Andi's ZONE_DMA exclusion would work, without
equal hackery to enable private zonelists, avoiding that convention.

i915 is not the only user of shmem, and x86 not the only architecture:
we're not going to make everyone suffer for this. Once the memory
allocator gets down to giving you the low 1MB, my guess is that it's
already short of memory, and liable to deadlock or OOM if you refuse
and soak up every page it then gives you. Even if i915 has to live
with that possibility, we're not going to extend it to everyone else.

arch/x86/Kconfig has X86_RESERVE_LOW, default 64, range 4 640 (and
I think we reserve all the memory range from 640kB to 1MB anyway).
Would setting that to 640 allow you to boot, and avoid the i915
problem on all but the odd five pages? I'm not pretending that's
an ideal solution at all (unless freeing initmem could release most
of it on non-SandyBridge and non-i915 machines), but it would be
useful to know if that does provide a stopgap solution. If that
does work, maybe we just mark the odd five PageReserved at startup.

Is there really no way this can be handled closer to the source of
the problem, in the i915 driver itself? I do not know the flow of
control in i915 (and X) at all, but on the surface it seems that the
problem only comes when you map these problematic pages into the GTT
(if I'm even using the right terminology), and something (not shmem.c)
actively has to do that.

Can't you check the pfn at that point, and if it's an unsuitable page,
copy into a suitable page (perhaps allocated then, perhaps from a pool
you primed earlier) and map that suitable page into the GTT instead?
Maybe using page->private to link them if that helps.

So long as the page (or its shadow) is mapped into the GTT, I imagine
it would be pinned, and not liable to be swapped out or otherwise
interfered with by shmem.c. And when you unmap it from GTT, copy
back to the unsuitable shmem object page before unpinning.

I fully accept that I have very little understanding of GPU DRM GTT
and i915, and this may be impossible or incoherent: but please, let's
try to keep the strangeness where it belongs. If necessary, we'll
have add some kind of flag and callback from shmem.c to the driver;
but I'd so much prefer to avoid that.

Hugh

>
> Change-Id: I957e125fb280e0b0d6b05a83cc4068df2f05aa0a
> ---
> mm/shmem.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> 1 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/shmem.c b/mm/shmem.c
> index 6c253f7..dcbb58b 100644
> --- a/mm/shmem.c
> +++ b/mm/shmem.c
> @@ -768,6 +768,31 @@ redirty:
> return 0;
> }
>
> +/*
> + * Some intel GPUs can't use those pages in the GTT, which results in
> + * graphics corruption. Sadly, it's impossible to prevent usage of those
> + * pages in the intel allocator.
> + *
> + * Instead, we test for those areas here and leak the corresponding pages.
> + *
> + * Some day, when the intel GPU memory is not backed by shmem any more,
> + * we'll be able to come up with a solution which is contained in i915.
> + */
> +static bool i915_usable_page(struct page *page)
> +{
> + dma_addr_t addr = page_to_phys(page);
> +
> + if (unlikely((addr < 1 * 1024 * 1024) ||
> + (addr == 0x20050000) ||
> + (addr == 0x20110000) ||
> + (addr == 0x20130000) ||
> + (addr == 0x20138000) ||
> + (addr == 0x40004000)))
> + return false;
> +
> + return true;
> +}
> +
> #ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
> #ifdef CONFIG_TMPFS
> static void shmem_show_mpol(struct seq_file *seq, struct mempolicy *mpol)
> @@ -816,6 +841,7 @@ static struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
> struct shmem_inode_info *info, pgoff_t index)
> {
> struct vm_area_struct pvma;
> + struct page *page;
>
> /* Create a pseudo vma that just contains the policy */
> pvma.vm_start = 0;
> @@ -826,7 +852,11 @@ static struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
> /*
> * alloc_page_vma() will drop the shared policy reference
> */
> - return alloc_page_vma(gfp, &pvma, 0);
> + do {
> + page = alloc_page_vma(gfp, &pvma, 0);
> + } while (!i915_usable_page(page));
> +
> + return page;
> }
> #else /* !CONFIG_NUMA */
> #ifdef CONFIG_TMPFS
> @@ -844,7 +874,12 @@ static inline struct page *shmem_swapin(swp_entry_t swap, gfp_t gfp,
> static inline struct page *shmem_alloc_page(gfp_t gfp,
> struct shmem_inode_info *info, pgoff_t index)
> {
> - return alloc_page(gfp);
> + struct page *page;
> + do {
> + page = alloc_page(gfp);
> + } while (!i915_usable_page(page));
> +
> + return page;
> }
> #endif /* CONFIG_NUMA */
>
> --
> 1.7.5.3.367.ga9930
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/


daniel at ffwll

May 9, 2012, 1:56 AM

Post #9 of 9 (132 views)
Permalink
Re: [PATCH] mm: Work around Intel SNB GTT bug with some physical pages. [In reply to]

On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 02:57:25PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2012, Stephane Marchesin wrote:
>
> > While investing some Sandy Bridge rendering corruption, I found out
> > that all physical memory pages below 1MiB were returning garbage when
> > read through the GTT. This has been causing graphics corruption (when
> > it's used for textures, render targets and pixmaps) and GPU hangups
> > (when it's used for GPU batch buffers).
> >
> > I talked with some people at Intel and they confirmed my findings,
> > and said that a couple of other random pages were also affected.
> >
> > We could fix this problem by adding an e820 region preventing the
> > memory below 1 MiB to be used, but that prevents at least my machine
> > from booting. One could think that we should be able to fix it in
> > i915, but since the allocation is done by the backing shmem this is
> > not possible.
> >
> > In the end, I came up with the ugly workaround of just leaking the
> > offending pages in shmem.c. I do realize it's truly ugly, but I'm
> > looking for a fix to the existing code, and am wondering if people on
> > this list have a better idea, short of rewriting i915_gem.c to
> > allocate its own pages directly.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Stephane Marchesin <marcheu [at] chromium>
>
> Well done for discovering and pursuing this issue, but of course (as
> you know: you're trying to provoke us to better) your patch is revolting.
>
> And not even enough: swapin readahead and swapoff can read back
> from swap into pages which the i915 will later turn out to dislike.
>
> I do have a shmem.c patch coming up for gma500, which cannot use pages
> over 4GB; but that fits more reasonably with memory allocation policies,
> where we expect that anyone who can use a high page can use a lower as
> well, and there's already __GFP_DMA32 to set the limit.
>
> Your limitation is at the opposite end, so that patch won't help you at
> all. And I don't see how Andi's ZONE_DMA exclusion would work, without
> equal hackery to enable private zonelists, avoiding that convention.
>
> i915 is not the only user of shmem, and x86 not the only architecture:
> we're not going to make everyone suffer for this. Once the memory
> allocator gets down to giving you the low 1MB, my guess is that it's
> already short of memory, and liable to deadlock or OOM if you refuse
> and soak up every page it then gives you. Even if i915 has to live
> with that possibility, we're not going to extend it to everyone else.
>
> arch/x86/Kconfig has X86_RESERVE_LOW, default 64, range 4 640 (and
> I think we reserve all the memory range from 640kB to 1MB anyway).
> Would setting that to 640 allow you to boot, and avoid the i915
> problem on all but the odd five pages? I'm not pretending that's
> an ideal solution at all (unless freeing initmem could release most
> of it on non-SandyBridge and non-i915 machines), but it would be
> useful to know if that does provide a stopgap solution. If that
> does work, maybe we just mark the odd five PageReserved at startup.

Hm, as a stopgap measure to make Sandybridge gpus not die that sounds
pretty good. But we still need a more generic solution for the long-term,
see below

> Is there really no way this can be handled closer to the source of
> the problem, in the i915 driver itself? I do not know the flow of
> control in i915 (and X) at all, but on the surface it seems that the
> problem only comes when you map these problematic pages into the GTT
> (if I'm even using the right terminology), and something (not shmem.c)
> actively has to do that.
>
> Can't you check the pfn at that point, and if it's an unsuitable page,
> copy into a suitable page (perhaps allocated then, perhaps from a pool
> you primed earlier) and map that suitable page into the GTT instead?
> Maybe using page->private to link them if that helps.
>
> So long as the page (or its shadow) is mapped into the GTT, I imagine
> it would be pinned, and not liable to be swapped out or otherwise
> interfered with by shmem.c. And when you unmap it from GTT, copy
> back to the unsuitable shmem object page before unpinning.
>
> I fully accept that I have very little understanding of GPU DRM GTT
> and i915, and this may be impossible or incoherent: but please, let's
> try to keep the strangeness where it belongs. If necessary, we'll
> have add some kind of flag and callback from shmem.c to the driver;
> but I'd so much prefer to avoid that.

The copy stuff back&forth approach is pretty much what ttm uses atm: It
allocates suitable pages with whatever means it has (usually through the
dma api) and if the shrinker callback tells it that it's sitting on too
much memory, it copies stuff out to the shmem backing storage used by gem.

There are quite a few issues with that approach:
- We expose mmap to the shmem file directly to userspace in i915. We use
these extensively on Sandybridge because there direct cpu access is
coherent with what the gpu does. Original userspace would always tell
the kernel when it's done writing through cpu mappings so that the
kernel could ensure coherency (by clflushing + some magic memory
controller flush on older platforms), but because snb is coherent, we've
dropped that. So the kernel has no idea when it should copy stuff
around.

- The problem that shmem allocates unsuitable pages ins't limited to hw
issues on snb: We have random dma limits (like the 4G limit for gma500),
newer intel gpus support large pages (64K), and they would be beneficial
for some (video encode/decode related) workloads, with have crazy arm
gpus that want to allocate pages from specific CMA pools (because it
needs to spread video date over 2 buffer objects, both contigious but on
different memory banks) and so on ...

- I don't like the copy stuff around, especially since that moves drm
drivers further away from shmem and the swapout decisions of the vm. Atm
it's ridiculously easy to oom a system when drm/i915 is sitting on too
much shmem memory. Despite that there's tons of free swap around. One
idea to fix that is to stop mlocking pages we use on the gpu and instead
wire up the drm drivers into the shmem swapout path. The current
shrinker approach we're using doesn't stand a chance against a busy gpu.

- A related problem is that sitting on a few hundred meg to a few gig of
!GFP_MOVEABLE memory isn't really nice to nifty features like
transparent hugepages and other cool stuff that recently popped up
around page migration. Again I think we should work towards wiring up
drm drivers into the shmfs migrate_page callback so that this works
reliably.

ARM ppl with their crazy gpus suffer much more from this than x86/Intel,
so Rob Clark from Linaro has volunteered himself to look into a gemfs
(Chris Wilson from our team created such a beast for drm/i915 a while
back, but that one bitrotted a bit).

Cheers, Daniel
--
Daniel Vetter
Mail: daniel [at] ffwll
Mobile: +41 (0)79 365 57 48
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo [at] vger
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Linux kernel RSS feed   Index | Next | Previous | View Threaded
 
 


Interested in having your list archived? Contact Gossamer Threads
 
  Web Applications & Managed Hosting Powered by Gossamer Threads Inc.