
dshaw at jabberwocky
Dec 4, 2008, 12:45 PM
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Re: Using smart card to access encrypted secret keyring
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On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 07:32:36PM +0000, mikeb [at] mikebanahan wrote: > The most obvious is that I have already got significant investment > in my primary key which is DSA not RSA and therefore can never be > moved to the card. It also has a number of subkeys which remain in > use and they are not suitable for the card either. > > Also I have several other secret keys used for varying roles - > personal, business, hobby and so on. The card does not assist with > these. > > However, if I could encrypt my secret keyring using the card key and > then use those keys simply by inserting the card and entering its > pin (i.e. the encrypted secret keyring is decrypted by gnupg for me) > that would greatly assist. That would reduce the risks in having > those keys on a less secure computer since they would be doubly > protected; once by encryption and again by their passphrases. It depends on how secure the "less secure" computer is. The idea behind a smart card is that the key itself lives on the card and can't (by the nature of the card) be copied off. Even if the host computer is completely compromised, it cannot get the key off the card. (It can, however, remember your pin and use it to make some extra signatures or the like when the card is in the reader and you're not aware of it, but that's a different issue) Hence the "it depends" answer: using a smart card to encrypt an already encrypted secret key (that is, super-encrypting), doesn't really give you much protection against a compromised machine. Once you decrypt the secret key for use, the compromised machine then has it (remember that unlike the smart card key, the key we're decrypting doesn't live on the card, so it's just a file on disk to the host computer). This is similar in effect to the "put the key on a USB stick" idea. The key is protected until you use it, after which is isn't protected. Another way to look at it is that if your computer is secure, you don't need this, and if your computer is insecure, you can't use this. I don't want to give the impression that doing this is useless. It's not, but it doesn't add very much protection above what GPG already gives you with a straight passphrase. A possibly better way to go about this is to make a new subkey or two and store *them* on the card. I know you have subkeys in use, but by design, subkeys are easy to change. David _______________________________________________ Gnupg-devel mailing list Gnupg-devel [at] gnupg http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-devel
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