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gentoo at dhaller

May 13, 2012, 2:38 AM

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Re: Are those "green" drives any good? [In reply to]

Hello,

On Sat, 12 May 2012, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:20:57PM -0400, Norman Invasion wrote:
>> On 9 May 2012 04:47, Dale <rdalek1967 [at] gmail> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > As some know, I'm planning to buy me a LARGE hard drive to put all my
>> > videos on, eventually. The prices are coming down now. I keep seeing
>> > these "green" drives that are made by just about every company nowadays.
>> > When comparing them to a non "green" drive, do they hold up as good?
>> > Are they as dependable as a plain drive? I guess they are more
>> > efficient and I get that but do they break quicker, more often or no
>> > difference?
>> >
>> > I have noticed that they tend to spin slower and are cheaper. That much
>> > I have figured out. Other than that, I can't see any other difference.
>> > Data speeds seem to be about the same.
>> >
>>
>> They have an ugly tendency to nod off at 6 second intervals.
>> This runs up "193 Load_Cycle_Count" unacceptably: as many
>> as a few hundred thousand in a year & a million cycles is
>> getting close to the lifetime limit on most hard drives. I end
>> up running some iteration of
>> # hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
>> every boot.
>
>I bought my current internal laptop disk for Christmas 2008. It's a Samsung
>HM500JI (with 500 GB). Early on I noticed that, according to smartctl, its
>Load_Cycle_Count is increasing every 2 or 3 seconds. I even asked Samsung
>about this, but they either couldn't give any clue or didn't want to, b/c the
>Serial Number is from Turkey, so not from the European market.
>
>Anyhoo... I just checked the values:
>Power on hours: 11500
>Start/stop count: 2797
>Power cycle count: 2197
>
>But the load cycle count is at almost 12.3 million(!). That just can't be
>right. I stopped believing that number a good while ago.

As I said in another mail: laptop drives are built for frequent
unloading. Your number does seem a bit high though, that's about 1000
load cycles per hour...

>OTOH, I just became a bit nervous when looking at smartctl's output...
>Reallocated sectors: 7 (threshold 10)
>Calibration retry count: 1631
>Load retry count: 1631

That's not healty. c.f. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

HTH,
-dnh

--
To resist the influence of others, knowledge of one's self is
most important. -- Teal'C, Stargate SG-1, 9x14 - Stronghold

Subject	User	Time
Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 1:47 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	alan.mckinnon at gmail	May 9, 2012, 2:25 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 2:52 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	daniel at admin-box	May 9, 2012, 4:32 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 4:51 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 10, 2012, 12:39 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	alan.mckinnon at gmail	May 9, 2012, 2:28 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 3:24 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail	May 9, 2012, 3:48 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 9, 2012, 4:37 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 10, 2012, 12:38 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	alan.mckinnon at gmail	May 10, 2012, 2:13 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	tanstaafl at libertytrek	May 9, 2012, 4:47 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	mike at trausch	May 9, 2012, 5:06 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	tanstaafl at libertytrek	May 9, 2012, 6:30 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 9, 2012, 5:29 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	volkerarmin at googlemail	May 9, 2012, 6:15 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 3:37 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	pandu at poluan	May 9, 2012, 9:39 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 9, 2012, 10:28 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail	May 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 9, 2012, 11:53 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 4:49 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	pandu at poluan	May 9, 2012, 6:39 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	tsg at bonedaddy	May 10, 2012, 5:53 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 4:58 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	michaelkintzios at gmail	May 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	napalm at squareownz	May 10, 2012, 4:55 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 10, 2012, 5:38 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	napalm at squareownz	May 10, 2012, 6:27 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	rdalek1967 at gmail	May 10, 2012, 2:39 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail	May 10, 2012, 3:53 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	adamcarter3 at gmail	May 9, 2012, 6:52 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	invasivenorman at gmail	May 10, 2012, 9:20 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	invasivenorman at gmail	May 10, 2012, 11:13 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 10, 2012, 12:24 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 10, 2012, 12:36 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	neil at digimed	May 10, 2012, 2:25 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	markknecht at gmail	May 10, 2012, 1:17 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	neil at digimed	May 10, 2012, 5:07 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 10, 2012, 6:10 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	billk at iinet	May 10, 2012, 6:15 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	michaelkintzios at gmail	May 12, 2012, 2:34 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	volkerarmin at googlemail	May 12, 2012, 2:49 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 13, 2012, 2:35 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	Warp_7 at gmx	May 12, 2012, 11:50 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	gentoo at dhaller	May 13, 2012, 2:38 AM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	Warp_7 at gmx	May 21, 2012, 2:05 PM
Re: Are those "green" drives any good?	sixgod at gmail	May 21, 2012, 3:44 PM

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