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napalm at squareownz

May 10, 2012, 4:55 AM


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Re: Are those "green" drives any good? [In reply to]

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 06:58:47PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dale <rdalek1967 [at] gmail> wrote:
> >> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > <SNIP>
> >>> My thoughts these days is that nobody really makes a bad drive anymore.
> >>> Like cars[1], they're all good and do what it says on the box. Same
> >>> with bikes[2].
> >>>
> >>> A manufacturer may have some bad luck and a product range is less than
> >>> perfect, but even that is quite rare and most stuff ups can be fixed
> >>> with new firmware. So it's all good.
> >>
> >>
> >> That's my thoughts too. It doesn't matter what brand you go with, they
> >> all have some sort of failure at some point. They are not built to last
> >> forever and there is always the random failure, even when a week old.
> >> It's usually the loss of important data and not having a backup that
> >> makes it sooooo bad. I'm not real picky on brand as long as it is a
> >> company I have heard of.
> >>
> >
> > One thing to keep in mind is statistics. For a single drive by itself
> > it hardly matters anymore what you buy. You cannot predict the
> > failure. However if you buy multiple identical drives at the same time
> > then most likely you will either get all good drives or (possibly) a
> > bunch of drives that suffer from similar defects and all start failing
> > at the same point in their life cycle. For RAID arrays it's
> > measurably best to buy drives that come from different manufacturing
> > lots, better from different factories, and maybe even from different
> > companies. Then, if a drive fails, assuming the failure is really the
> > fault of the drive and not some local issue like power sources or ESD
> > events, etc., it's less likely other drives in the box will fail at
> > the same time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>
>
> You make a good point too. I had a headlight to go out on my car once
> long ago. I, not thinking, replaced them both since the new ones were
> brighter. Guess what, when one of the bulbs blew out, the other was out
> VERY soon after. Now, I replace them but NOT at the same time. Keep in
> mind, just like a hard drive, when one headlight is on, so is the other
> one. When we turn our computers on, all the drives spin up together so
> they are basically all getting the same wear and tear effect.
>
> I don't use RAID, except to kill bugs, but that is good advice. People
> who do use RAID would be wise to use it.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>

hum hum!
I know that Windows does this by default (it annoys me so I disable it)
but does linux disable or stop running the disks if they're inactive?
I'm assuming there's an option somewhere - maybe just `unmount`!

Subject User Time
Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 1:47 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? alan.mckinnon at gmail May 9, 2012, 2:25 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 2:52 AM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? daniel at admin-box May 9, 2012, 4:32 AM
                Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 4:51 AM
                    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 10, 2012, 12:39 PM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? alan.mckinnon at gmail May 9, 2012, 2:28 PM
                Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 3:24 PM
                    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail May 9, 2012, 3:48 PM
                    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 9, 2012, 4:37 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 10, 2012, 12:38 PM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? alan.mckinnon at gmail May 10, 2012, 2:13 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? tanstaafl at libertytrek May 9, 2012, 4:47 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? mike at trausch May 9, 2012, 5:06 AM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? tanstaafl at libertytrek May 9, 2012, 6:30 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 9, 2012, 5:29 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? volkerarmin at googlemail May 9, 2012, 6:15 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 3:37 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? pandu at poluan May 9, 2012, 9:39 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 9, 2012, 10:28 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail May 9, 2012, 11:42 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 9, 2012, 11:53 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 4:49 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? pandu at poluan May 9, 2012, 6:39 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? tsg at bonedaddy May 10, 2012, 5:53 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 9, 2012, 4:58 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? michaelkintzios at gmail May 10, 2012, 12:03 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? napalm at squareownz May 10, 2012, 4:55 AM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 10, 2012, 5:38 AM
                Re: Are those "green" drives any good? napalm at squareownz May 10, 2012, 6:27 AM
                    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? rdalek1967 at gmail May 10, 2012, 2:39 PM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail May 10, 2012, 3:53 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? adamcarter3 at gmail May 9, 2012, 6:52 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? invasivenorman at gmail May 10, 2012, 9:20 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 10, 2012, 11:01 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? invasivenorman at gmail May 10, 2012, 11:13 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 10, 2012, 12:24 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 10, 2012, 12:36 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? neil at digimed May 10, 2012, 2:25 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? markknecht at gmail May 10, 2012, 1:17 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? neil at digimed May 10, 2012, 5:07 PM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 10, 2012, 6:10 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? billk at iinet May 10, 2012, 6:15 PM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? michaelkintzios at gmail May 12, 2012, 2:34 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? volkerarmin at googlemail May 12, 2012, 2:49 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 13, 2012, 2:35 AM
    Re: Are those "green" drives any good? Warp_7 at gmx May 12, 2012, 11:50 AM
        Re: Are those "green" drives any good? gentoo at dhaller May 13, 2012, 2:38 AM
            Re: Are those "green" drives any good? Warp_7 at gmx May 21, 2012, 2:05 PM
                Re: Are those "green" drives any good? sixgod at gmail May 21, 2012, 3:44 PM

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