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peter at humphrey

Feb 27, 2012, 4:39 PM

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[OT] Re: Anybody have kdebluetooth working?

On Monday 27 February 2012 23:29:35 Robin Atwood wrote:
> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling

Please check the spelling of the third word in that quotation. I'm pretty
certain that "somewheres" is purely American, which of course Kipling was
not.

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Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

jamesbroadhead at gmail

Feb 28, 2012, 7:57 AM

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Re: [OT] Re: Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On 28 February 2012 00:39, Peter Humphrey <peter [at] humphrey> wrote:
> On Monday 27 February 2012 23:29:35 Robin Atwood wrote:
>
>> "Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,
>
>> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
>
>> from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling
> Please check the spelling of the third word in that quotation. I'm pretty
> certain that "somewheres" is purely American, which of course Kipling was
> not.
>

He was, however, a poet, which gives him the teensiest bit of lee-way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_of_Suez

Please don't send html emails to the list, nor correct the
grammar/spelling of a quotation that you have not googl'd for
verification. Alternately, you may contact Mr. Kipling directly.

peter at humphrey

Feb 29, 2012, 1:08 PM

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Re: [OT] Re: Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:

> Please don't send html emails to the list

I wrote a test message and saved it, then examined it with less. It was in
two parts: one plain text and one HTML. I have never set an option to write
in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said "html-
markup=true" for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's
cleared the problem.

--
Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

michaelkintzios at gmail

Feb 29, 2012, 1:28 PM

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Re: [OT] Re: Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 29 Feb 2012 21:08:41 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:
> > Please don't send html emails to the list
>
> I wrote a test message and saved it, then examined it with less. It was in
> two parts: one plain text and one HTML. I have never set an option to write
> in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said "html-
> markup=true" for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's
> cleared the problem.

Hmmm .... which Kmail are you using?
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Mick

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peter at humphrey

Feb 29, 2012, 4:07 PM

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Re: [OT] Re: Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Wednesday 29 February 2012 21:28:07 Mick wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 Feb 2012 21:08:41 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:
> > > Please don't send html emails to the list
> >
> > I wrote a test message and saved it, then examined it with less. It was
> > in two parts: one plain text and one HTML. I have never set an option
> > to write in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It
> > said "html- markup=true" for some reason. So I changed it to false and
> > I hope that's cleared the problem.
>
> Hmmm .... which Kmail are you using?

4.7.4.

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Rgds
Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

stroller at stellar

Mar 1, 2012, 7:07 AM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On 29 February 2012, at 21:08, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:
>
>> Please don't send html emails to the list
>
> � I have never set an option to write
> in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said "html-
> markup=true" for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's
> cleared the problem.

It hasn't.

michaelkintzios at gmail

Mar 1, 2012, 7:28 AM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On 1 March 2012 15:07, Stroller <stroller [at] stellar> wrote:
>
> On 29 February 2012, at 21:08, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Tuesday 28 February 2012 15:57:36 James Broadhead wrote:
>>
>>> Please don't send html emails to the list
>>
>> � I have never set an option to write
>> in HTML so I shut kmail down and checked its config file. It said "html-
>> markup=true" for some reason. So I changed it to false and I hope that's
>> cleared the problem.
>
> It hasn't.

We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did you
restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?

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Regards,
Mick

peter at humphrey

Mar 1, 2012, 8:03 AM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Thursday 01 March 2012 15:28:16 Mick wrote:

> We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did you
> restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?

I have restarted the whole machine and I now find markup=true again. Solution:
stop kmail, move the entire message tree and kmailrc, start kmail, import all
messages from the old tree, import all filters from kmailrc. Only took a few
minutes and I think I how have a clean system.

I'm sure you'll let me know if I'm still polluting the atmosphere with HTML.
:-)

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Rgds
Peter

alan.mckinnon at gmail

Mar 1, 2012, 10:01 AM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:03:57 +0000
Peter Humphrey <peter [at] humphrey> wrote:

> On Thursday 01 March 2012 15:28:16 Mick wrote:
>
> > We could blame the 4.7.4 version for this, but just in case - did
> > you restart kmail and does the config file still read markup=false?
>
> I have restarted the whole machine and I now find markup=true again.
> Solution: stop kmail, move the entire message tree and kmailrc, start
> kmail, import all messages from the old tree, import all filters from
> kmailrc. Only took a few minutes and I think I how have a clean
> system.
>
> I'm sure you'll let me know if I'm still polluting the atmosphere
> with HTML. :-)
>
.

You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have

Yes, kmail-4.* eats mail. I talk from experience.

Feel free to ignore me if you think I'm over the top. I now have this
compulsion to bad mouth kdepim at every possible opportunity till the
devs fix it properly after losing a month of my life to having to
fiddle with kmail eternally plus losing three years of mail history

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Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon [at] gmail

peter at humphrey

Mar 1, 2012, 10:54 AM

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On Thursday 01 March 2012 18:01:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:

> You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
> system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have

That would be rash. My gentoo-user mail still numbers 15160 and dates back to
a year ago. I don't notice any missing directories either, and all of them
contain plausible numbers of e-mails.

All the same, I'm not going to start feeling smug just yet.

--
Rgds
Peter

michaelkintzios at gmail

Mar 1, 2012, 11:17 AM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 18:54:30 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday 01 March 2012 18:01:43 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > You might have a clean system but fifty quid says you have a clean
> > system with a whole lot less mail than you used to have
>
> That would be rash. My gentoo-user mail still numbers 15160 and dates back
> to a year ago. I don't notice any missing directories either, and all of
> them contain plausible numbers of e-mails.
>
> All the same, I'm not going to start feeling smug just yet.

Well, I had duplicates being created in gmail (POP3) which magically
regenerated themselves in multiples when I tried to delete them ... O_O

It is a bloody joke and I can't believe that the KDE devs let it loose on
unsuspecting population like this. I mean, people depend on KDEPIM to manage
their affairs and businesses. It's not as if it is some poxy eye candy
feature. Arrrgh! What are these guys trying to do? Surpass Microsoft in
their development decisions?
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Mick

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peter at humphrey

Mar 1, 2012, 4:38 PM

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Re: [OT] Anybody have kdebluetooth working? [In reply to]

On Thursday 01 March 2012 19:17:05 Mick wrote:

> Well, I had duplicates being created in gmail (POP3) which magically
> regenerated themselves in multiples when I tried to delete them

I experienced that jollity when trying to upgrade to the latest, fatally
broken version, but no such problem with the version I was upgrading from
(4.7.4). This version still seems reliable to me, now that I've reset it to a
working state.

> It is a bloody joke and I can't believe that the KDE devs let it loose on
> [an] unsuspecting population like this. I mean, people depend on KDEPIM to
> manage their affairs and businesses.

Quite agree. It's a travesty of software development, not explained even by
Alan's analysis. These people should be given a dose of the Real World (tm).

> It's not as if it [were] some poxy eye candy feature. Arrrgh! What are
> these guys trying to do? Surpass Microsoft in their development decisions?

Surpass? Is that quite the right word? :-)

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Rgds
Peter

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