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tracyde at gmail

Oct 29, 2004, 9:00 AM

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Graphics Issues

I just got my hands on a Visualize J5600 dual 64-bit w/1.5 gigs of ram
and a VisualizeFX4 graphics card. I know that I will probably never
be able to get the FX4 working in framebuffer mode but was wondering
if anyone has had any luck with an S3/Virge card. If someone has
could you please give me a little insight as to what I have to do to
get it working for me.

The other thing is I know that the VisualizeEG card is fairly well
supported but I can not find one anywhere. Does someone have one
laying around that they would like to trade for something? Just some
ideas.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you,

Derek Tracy

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ryanm at centurycomputer

Oct 29, 2004, 9:04 AM

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RE: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

Honestly your best bet is to lurk on ebay.
People typically don't bid on HP hardware - especially when they are in the
wrong category or when people don't know what they are ;)

Ryan MacLean
Sales Representative
Century Computer
5443 Rainnie Drive, Halifax
Nova Scotia, B3J 1P8
mailto:ryanm [at] centurycomputer
Phone: 423-2500
Fax: 423-2929
-----Original Message-----
From: derek tracy [mailto:tracyde [at] gmail]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:00 PM
To: gentoo-hppa [at] lists
Subject: [gentoo-hppa] Graphics Issues

I just got my hands on a Visualize J5600 dual 64-bit w/1.5 gigs of ram
and a VisualizeFX4 graphics card. I know that I will probably never
be able to get the FX4 working in framebuffer mode but was wondering
if anyone has had any luck with an S3/Virge card. If someone has
could you please give me a little insight as to what I have to do to
get it working for me.

The other thing is I know that the VisualizeEG card is fairly well
supported but I can not find one anywhere. Does someone have one
laying around that they would like to trade for something? Just some
ideas.

Any and all help is appreciated.

Thank you,

Derek Tracy

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tracyde at gmail

Oct 29, 2004, 9:08 AM

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Re: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

I have been trying that but the cheapest VisualizeEG card I could find
was/is $79.99 that is crazy. The card only goes to 8bit color and
only has 4mb of ram == not worth $79.99

That just aggrevates me :-)

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:04:38 -0300, Ryan MacLean
<ryanm [at] centurycomputer> wrote:
> Honestly your best bet is to lurk on ebay.
> People typically don't bid on HP hardware - especially when they are in the
> wrong category or when people don't know what they are ;)
>
> Ryan MacLean
> Sales Representative
> Century Computer
> 5443 Rainnie Drive, Halifax
> Nova Scotia, B3J 1P8
> mailto:ryanm [at] centurycomputer
> Phone: 423-2500
> Fax: 423-2929
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: derek tracy [mailto:tracyde [at] gmail]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: gentoo-hppa [at] lists
> Subject: [gentoo-hppa] Graphics Issues
>
> I just got my hands on a Visualize J5600 dual 64-bit w/1.5 gigs of ram
> and a VisualizeFX4 graphics card. I know that I will probably never
> be able to get the FX4 working in framebuffer mode but was wondering
> if anyone has had any luck with an S3/Virge card. If someone has
> could you please give me a little insight as to what I have to do to
> get it working for me.
>
> The other thing is I know that the VisualizeEG card is fairly well
> supported but I can not find one anywhere. Does someone have one
> laying around that they would like to trade for something? Just some
> ideas.
>
> Any and all help is appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Derek Tracy
>
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>
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>
>

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ryanm at centurycomputer

Oct 29, 2004, 9:10 AM

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RE: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

Why not run it headless?

Ryan MacLean
Sales Representative
Century Computer
5443 Rainnie Drive, Halifax
Nova Scotia, B3J 1P8
mailto:ryanm [at] centurycomputer
Phone: 423-2500
Fax: 423-2929

-----Original Message-----
From: derek tracy [mailto:tracyde [at] gmail]
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:09 PM
To: gentoo-hppa [at] lists
Subject: Re: [gentoo-hppa] Graphics Issues

I have been trying that but the cheapest VisualizeEG card I could find
was/is $79.99 that is crazy. The card only goes to 8bit color and
only has 4mb of ram == not worth $79.99

That just aggrevates me :-)

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:04:38 -0300, Ryan MacLean
<ryanm [at] centurycomputer> wrote:
> Honestly your best bet is to lurk on ebay.
> People typically don't bid on HP hardware - especially when they are in
the
> wrong category or when people don't know what they are ;)
>
> Ryan MacLean
> Sales Representative
> Century Computer
> 5443 Rainnie Drive, Halifax
> Nova Scotia, B3J 1P8
> mailto:ryanm [at] centurycomputer
> Phone: 423-2500
> Fax: 423-2929
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: derek tracy [mailto:tracyde [at] gmail]
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:00 PM
> To: gentoo-hppa [at] lists
> Subject: [gentoo-hppa] Graphics Issues
>
> I just got my hands on a Visualize J5600 dual 64-bit w/1.5 gigs of ram
> and a VisualizeFX4 graphics card. I know that I will probably never
> be able to get the FX4 working in framebuffer mode but was wondering
> if anyone has had any luck with an S3/Virge card. If someone has
> could you please give me a little insight as to what I have to do to
> get it working for me.
>
> The other thing is I know that the VisualizeEG card is fairly well
> supported but I can not find one anywhere. Does someone have one
> laying around that they would like to trade for something? Just some
> ideas.
>
> Any and all help is appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Derek Tracy
>
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>
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>

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gavinseddon at blueyonder

Oct 30, 2004, 2:12 AM

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graphics issues [In reply to]

Hi,
Try John at
http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk/hp_unix.html

He deals with hp hardware.

Gavin

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szabolcs.regos at gmail

Oct 30, 2004, 10:46 AM

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Re: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

Hi!

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 12:00:20 -0400, derek tracy <tracyde [at] gmail> wrote:
> I just got my hands on a Visualize J5600 dual 64-bit w/1.5 gigs of ram
> and a VisualizeFX4 graphics card. I know that I will probably never
> be able to get the FX4 working in framebuffer mode but was wondering
> if anyone has had any luck with an S3/Virge card. If someone has
> could you please give me a little insight as to what I have to do to
> get it working for me.

Do you have HP-UX on this system? If you check it, you will find XFree
in it. :-)
If the HP-UX's Xfree supports it, I think any Xfree can support it.
For framebuffer try to use standard VESA modes.

I'll try gentoo on my B180L workstation, but I afraid, this install
will be looooooooooooong time. :-)

> The other thing is I know that the VisualizeEG card is fairly well
> supported but I can not find one anywhere. Does someone have one
> laying around that they would like to trade for something? Just some
> ideas.

If you wants to use linux on this system, why do you want to use HP
supperted graphics card? Just have a try with a well supported (by
Xorg or XFree) PCI card.

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szabolcs.regos at gmail

Nov 1, 2004, 1:14 PM

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Re: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

Hi!

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:01:57 -0400, derek tracy <tracyde [at] gmail> wrote:
> I do not have HP-UX on this system and have no desire to use it, I
> have used it in the past and have nothing good to say about it (other
> than the support for FX series cards but they are both made by HP)

I don't want to push you to use HP-UX.
But I'm supporting it in worktime and I know, there are lots of GNU
tools are ported and supported by HP.

> The problem with using all graphics adapters that are supported by
> XFree/Xorg is that just because they support it does not mean that
> they will work. On an x86 system the bios calls and runs instructions
> from all other card bios' on boot up and the HPPA pdc does not act in
> the same way and will not run x86 assembly code from those cards.

Maybe you are right. Therefore you will not see the messages until the
kernel loaded and switched to FB mode. But, if You have a serial
terminal, you can use it to see the boot messages. If I found my old
S3 Trio 64 PCI VGA card, I'll test it in my B180L workstation.

> They key to this process is to use a pci graphics adapter that does
> not rely on its bios being called or one that can have their
> instructions called from other means than the system bios.

It maybe true, but only for PDC messages. When the linux kernel
loaded, it can use the "incompatible" card. But I'll test it.

Ave, Saabi.

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tracyde at gmail

Nov 2, 2004, 7:36 AM

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Re: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

Would it be possible for me to put the S3 Virge card in the primary
slot and put the FX4 board in the secondary slot and still get it to
display the console without using a serial console?

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:14:57 +0100, Saabi <szabolcs.regos [at] gmail> wrote:
> Hi!
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:01:57 -0400, derek tracy <tracyde [at] gmail> wrote:
> > I do not have HP-UX on this system and have no desire to use it, I
> > have used it in the past and have nothing good to say about it (other
> > than the support for FX series cards but they are both made by HP)
>
> I don't want to push you to use HP-UX.
> But I'm supporting it in worktime and I know, there are lots of GNU
> tools are ported and supported by HP.
>
> > The problem with using all graphics adapters that are supported by
> > XFree/Xorg is that just because they support it does not mean that
> > they will work. On an x86 system the bios calls and runs instructions
> > from all other card bios' on boot up and the HPPA pdc does not act in
> > the same way and will not run x86 assembly code from those cards.
>
> Maybe you are right. Therefore you will not see the messages until the
> kernel loaded and switched to FB mode. But, if You have a serial
> terminal, you can use it to see the boot messages. If I found my old
> S3 Trio 64 PCI VGA card, I'll test it in my B180L workstation.
>
> > They key to this process is to use a pci graphics adapter that does
> > not rely on its bios being called or one that can have their
> > instructions called from other means than the system bios.
>
> It maybe true, but only for PDC messages. When the linux kernel
> loaded, it can use the "incompatible" card. But I'll test it.
>
> Ave, Saabi.
>
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Nov 2, 2004, 11:07 AM

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Re: Graphics Issues [In reply to]

On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 10:36:22 -0400, derek tracy <tracyde [at] gmail> wrote:
> Would it be possible for me to put the S3 Virge card in the primary
> slot and put the FX4 board in the secondary slot and still get it to
> display the console without using a serial console?

Maybe. But then you will need two monitors or one with two input.

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