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spacecakex at gmail

Nov 19, 2009, 4:59 AM

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Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display

Hi,

I have the following set-up

HP 6530B laptop with
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)

1440x900 Laptop LCD resolution
1600x1200 Ext LCD resolution connected to the DVI port of the docking
station

Currently my multi monitor support not working at all and single also looks
very buggy. When I start X the LCD screen is fine at 1440x900 and same at my
external LCD. When I start monitor applet, my external LCD changes to
1600x1200 together with my internal (which become useless from this point)

The ideal solution would be to use dual monitor with the native resolution
of both device and different screen on the two monitors. As I heard with
Intel VGA it is not an easy job

For me it would be a big results if my internal display can keep the
resolution after I connect to the external one, so when I remove my laptop
from the docking station I can still use it without restarting xdm :)

I was searching for a working xorg.conf but I cannot find any. Maybe some of
you already faced with this problem and can send me a working config or can
show me some resources where I can find out more info on this topic

Thank you
Laszlo

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[I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
Available versions: 2.6.3-r1 (~)2.7.1 2.8.1 (~)2.9.0 (~)2.9.1 {debug
dri}
Installed versions: 2.9.1(16.13.53 2009-11-13)(dri -debug)
Homepage: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards

[I] x11-base/xorg-server
Available versions: 1.5.3-r6 ~1.5.3-r7 1.6.3.901-r2 ~1.6.4 ~1.6.5
~1.7.1 {3dfx debug dmx hal input_devices_acecad input_devices_aiptek
input_devices_citron input_devices_elographics input_devices_evdev
input_devices_fpit input_devices_hyperpen input_devices_joystick
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse input_devices_mutouch
input_devices_penmount input_devices_synaptics input_devices_tslib
input_devices_virtualbox input_devices_vmmouse input_devices_void
input_devices_wacom ipv6 kdrive minimal nptl sdl tslib video_cards_apm
video_cards_ark video_cards_ast video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus
video_cards_dummy video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev video_cards_fglrx
video_cards_geode video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740
video_cards_impact video_cards_imstt video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64
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video_cards_sunffb video_cards_sunleo video_cards_suntcx video_cards_tdfx
video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l
video_cards_vermilion video_cards_vesa video_cards_via
video_cards_virtualbox video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo video_cards_xgi
xorg}
Installed versions: 1.6.3.901-r2(00.07.36 2009-10-10)(hal nptl sdl
xorg -debug -dmx -ipv6 -kdrive -minimal -tslib)
Homepage: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
Description: X.Org X servers

[I] x11-base/xorg-drivers
Available versions: 1.6 ~1.7 {input_devices_acecad
input_devices_aiptek input_devices_citron input_devices_elographics
input_devices_evdev input_devices_fpit input_devices_hyperpen
input_devices_joystick input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse
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input_devices_tslib input_devices_virtualbox input_devices_vmmouse
input_devices_void input_devices_wacom video_cards_apm video_cards_ark
video_cards_ast video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus video_cards_dummy
video_cards_epson video_cards_fbdev video_cards_fglrx video_cards_geode
video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 video_cards_impact
video_cards_imstt video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga
video_cards_neomagic video_cards_newport video_cards_nv video_cards_nvidia
video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon video_cards_radeonhd
video_cards_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage
video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb
video_cards_sunbw2 video_cards_suncg14 video_cards_suncg3 video_cards_suncg6
video_cards_sunffb video_cards_sunleo video_cards_suntcx video_cards_tdfx
video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l
video_cards_vermilion video_cards_vesa video_cards_via
video_cards_virtualbox video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo
video_cards_xgi}
Installed versions: 1.6(15.47.46 2009-11-16)(input_devices_evdev
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse video_cards_fbdev
video_cards_glint video_cards_intel video_cards_mach64 video_cards_mga
video_cards_neomagic video_cards_nv video_cards_r128 video_cards_radeon
video_cards_savage video_cards_sis video_cards_tdfx video_cards_trident
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-video_cards_sisusb -video_cards_sunbw2 -video_cards_suncg14
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-video_cards_sunleo -video_cards_suntcx -video_cards_tga -video_cards_tseng
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-video_cards_xgi)
Homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/
Description: Meta package containing deps on all xorg drivers

norman at smash-net

Nov 19, 2009, 11:30 AM

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Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

SpaceCake schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> I have the following set-up
>
> HP 6530B laptop with
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
> Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
>
> 1440x900 Laptop LCD resolution
> 1600x1200 Ext LCD resolution connected to the DVI port of the docking
> station
>
> Currently my multi monitor support not working at all and single also
> looks very buggy. When I start X the LCD screen is fine at 1440x900
> and same at my external LCD. When I start monitor applet, my external
> LCD changes to 1600x1200 together with my internal (which become
> useless from this point)
>
> The ideal solution would be to use dual monitor with the native
> resolution of both device and different screen on the two monitors. As
> I heard with Intel VGA it is not an easy job
>
> For me it would be a big results if my internal display can keep the
> resolution after I connect to the external one, so when I remove my
> laptop from the docking station I can still use it without restarting
> xdm :)
>
> I was searching for a working xorg.conf but I cannot find any. Maybe
> some of you already faced with this problem and can send me a working
> config or can show me some resources where I can find out more info on
> this topic
>
> Thank you
> Laszlo
>
Hello,

you can achieve this with xrandr.
I have a similar setup and i run the following comand to set things up.

xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --left-of LVDS1 --output LVDS1 --auto

You get an overview over your devices and their names by typing xrandr
as user.
I also do not have a xorg.conf but let xorg do the config by itself.

So when i am on laptop only, xorg finds the right settings for me. If i
am at home using the second screen, i wrote that command and some other
stuff in a small script and linked that in a bin directory. So i type
"dualscreen" and the script sets things up for me.

#!/bin/bash
xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --left-of LVDS1 --output LVDS1 --auto
display -window root /home/smash/wallpaper/Feuersbrunst_dual.jpg

So the result looks like this:
http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/loki_20091010.png

Regards,
Norman

spacecakex at gmail

Nov 19, 2009, 12:53 PM

Post #3 of 7 (1476 views)
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Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

Thank you. As I see this is the perfect and the only working solution at
this moment

KDE-4-3 monitor settings applet has a section "dual display" or
something similar, but thinks I don't have a dual capable hardware :) so
maybe sometimes in the future someone will implement this feature better
and makes it more user friendly.

Laszlo

> Hello,
>
> you can achieve this with xrandr.
> I have a similar setup and i run the following comand to set things up.
>
> xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --left-of LVDS1 --output LVDS1 --auto
>
> You get an overview over your devices and their names by typing xrandr
> as user.
> I also do not have a xorg.conf but let xorg do the config by itself.
>
> So when i am on laptop only, xorg finds the right settings for me. If i
> am at home using the second screen, i wrote that command and some other
> stuff in a small script and linked that in a bin directory. So i type
> "dualscreen" and the script sets things up for me.
>
> #!/bin/bash
> xrandr --output HDMI1 --auto --left-of LVDS1 --output LVDS1 --auto
> display -window root /home/smash/wallpaper/Feuersbrunst_dual.jpg
>
> So the result looks like this:
> http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/loki_20091010.png
>
> Regards,
> Norman
>
>
>
>

1i5t5.duncan at cox

Nov 19, 2009, 1:53 PM

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Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

Norman Rieß posted on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:30:37 +0100 as excerpted:

> http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/loki_20091010.png

You should know you can't go posting such fantastic screenshots without
letting us know where you got the wallpaper! =;^)

Please do tell... if you remember, of course.

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1i5t5.duncan at cox

Nov 19, 2009, 2:26 PM

Post #5 of 7 (1460 views)
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Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

Space Cakex posted on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:53:01 +0100 as excerpted:

> KDE-4-3 monitor settings applet has a section "dual display" or
> something similar, but thinks I don't have a dual capable hardware :) so
> maybe sometimes in the future someone will implement this feature better
> and makes it more user friendly.

Well, that's significantly better than the kcontrol display applet does
for me! It sees two monitors, but only has clone mode, so if try to
change anything, it forces clone mode and screws everything up. Even
after switching back using my xrandr based script, plasma is still mixed
up and have the activities in the wrong place. It always takes me a bit
of fiddling with zooming in and out and etc to get it right, again.

And a couple versions ago, 4.3.0 IIRC, it was WAY bad. I only had to
stop at that applet on the way to another one, for it to screw things
up! I didn't even have to change anything, just open that applet,
accidentally (as it certainly was after the first time!) or deliberately,
and it would screw things up! I learned to steer VERY clear of it!

But FWIW, the rumor is that the bug that's triggering the problems, that
it recognized only one of the CTRCs or whatever, is fixed in trunk, and
thus will be fixed for 4.4, scheduled for February. I'm eagerly awaiting
that day, as I've not had a properly working kde display applet in years,
with kde3 either, so am really anticipating actually being able to play
with it in the GUI and have the changes work like they're supposed to!

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norman at smash-net

Nov 19, 2009, 9:43 PM

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Re: Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

Duncan schrieb:
> Norman Rieß posted on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:30:37 +0100 as excerpted:
>
>
>> http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/loki_20091010.png
>>
>
> You should know you can't go posting such fantastic screenshots without
> letting us know where you got the wallpaper! =;^)
>
> Please do tell... if you remember, of course.
>
>
gucken.deviantart.com :-)

1i5t5.duncan at cox

Nov 20, 2009, 3:51 AM

Post #7 of 7 (1451 views)
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Re: Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display [In reply to]

Norman Rieß posted on Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:43:25 +0100 as excerpted:

> Duncan schrieb:
>> Norman Rieß posted on Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:30:37 +0100 as excerpted:
>>
>>> http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/loki_20091010.png
>>
> gucken.deviantart.com :-)

deviantart. Might have known. Thanks!

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