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davide.cittaro at ifom-ieo-campus

Nov 14, 2006, 1:28 AM

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java on alpha?

Hi there, since Java has been released now with a open license, do
you think it will be possible to have a recent (and decent) java VM
on our gentoo alphas?

d
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Davide Cittaro
HPC and Bioinformatics Systems @ Informatics Core

IFOM - Istituto FIRC di Oncologia Molecolare
via adamello, 16
20139 Milano
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tel.: +39(02)574303355
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stanislav.boscik at gmail

Nov 14, 2006, 2:14 AM

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RE: java on alpha? [In reply to]

Hi,
Java have not been released under GPL yet - SUN just promissed to release it
in March 2007. Some parts of the code are licensed under proprietary 3rd
party licenses and cannot be released under GPL therefore. We can expect
that some development will be needed in order to have functional Java
release under GPL.
Now we can only hope!
SB


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From: Davide Cittaro [mailto:davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:29 AM
To: gentoo-alpha [at] lists
Subject: [gentoo-alpha] java on alpha?


Hi there, since Java has been released now with a open license, do you think
it will be possible to have a recent (and decent) java VM on our gentoo
alphas?

d

/*
Davide Cittaro
HPC and Bioinformatics Systems @ Informatics Core

IFOM - Istituto FIRC di Oncologia Molecolare
via adamello, 16
20139 Milano
Italy

tel.: +39(02)574303355
e-mail: <mailto:davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus>
davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus
*/


davide.cittaro at ifom-ieo-campus

Nov 14, 2006, 2:28 AM

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Re: java on alpha? [In reply to]

Hi,
Yes, I was wrong. AFAIR the only java compiler and the HotSpot VM
have been just released under GPL (http://www.sun.com/software/
opensource/java/project_overview.jsp). Nevertheless this could be a
step forward in "java quest on alphas" :-)

d
On Nov 14, 2006, at 10:14 AM, Stanislav Boscik wrote:

> Hi,
> Java have not been released under GPL yet - SUN just promissed to
> release it in March 2007. Some parts of the code are licensed under
> proprietary 3rd party licenses and cannot be released under GPL
> therefore. We can expect that some development will be needed in
> order to have functional Java release under GPL.
> Now we can only hope!
> SB
>
>
> From: Davide Cittaro [mailto:davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:29 AM
> To: gentoo-alpha [at] lists
> Subject: [gentoo-alpha] java on alpha?
>
> Hi there, since Java has been released now with a open license, do
> you think it will be possible to have a recent (and decent) java VM
> on our gentoo alphas?
>
> d
> /*
> Davide Cittaro
> HPC and Bioinformatics Systems @ Informatics Core
>
> IFOM - Istituto FIRC di Oncologia Molecolare
> via adamello, 16
> 20139 Milano
> Italy
>
> tel.: +39(02)574303355
> e-mail: davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus
> */
>
>

/*
Davide Cittaro
HPC and Bioinformatics Systems @ Informatics Core

IFOM - Istituto FIRC di Oncologia Molecolare
via adamello, 16
20139 Milano
Italy

tel.: +39(02)574303355
e-mail: davide.cittaro [at] ifom-ieo-campus
*/


kloeri at gentoo

Nov 14, 2006, 2:46 AM

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Re: java on alpha? [In reply to]

On Tue, Nov 14, 2006 at 09:28:37AM +0100, Davide Cittaro wrote:
> Hi there, since Java has been released now with a open license, do
> you think it will be possible to have a recent (and decent) java VM
> on our gentoo alphas?
>
The Alpha team is fairly interested in getting a working Java
implementation on Alpha. As we're a fairly small team at least two
things have to happen before considering this however:

1. All the source needs to be released and missing proprietary parts
have to be reimplemented by the open source community.
2. All the easy bugs have to fixed before we can spend (much) time on
Java on kaffe. This point is basically about the very limited free time
the Alpha team have to spend on projects such as this.

Seeing how fast things progress in kaffe and classpath I'm sure we'll
get there sooner than later in Sun manages to release all the source in
the timeframe promised.

Regards,
Bryan Ƙstergaard

PS. There might be further issues of course but the two issues above are
the immediate ones I'm seeing.
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