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mutin at commonwealthcare

Jul 10, 2012, 8:42 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing

Hello,
I completely agree with Thor. We have to do something for free. We have to contribute, not just use. Whoever and whatever.
Examples:
- This list is ran for free (hardware, software, time, energy are used for) and giving us a chance to communicate
- The most of us use Linux, whichever flavor you prefer. The most of it is free time contribution. Somebody pays for that, but we use.
It is nice to be paid for something, but consider the alternative. Otherwise our communications will die and we do not have an OS for a fun or profit.

Mikhail Utin

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Subject: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:24:51 +0000
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor [at] hammerofgod>
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] How much time is appropriate for fixing
a bug?
To: Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski>, Stefan Kanthak
<stefan.kanthak [at] nexgo>
Cc: "full-disclosure [at] lists"
<full-disclosure [at] lists>
Message-ID: <CC205E3D.3561%thor [at] hammerofgod>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"

I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact type of
person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass about the
industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever done has been
"valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been completely self-serving
egotistical bullshit.

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Jul 10, 2012, 10:35 AM

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You must is speak for yourself. I is stopped using Linux once Debian
is give away root ownership many is times! From now on I is only use
the best. BeOS. Is because Theo also have backdoor.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Mikhail A. Utin
<mutin [at] commonwealthcare> wrote:
> Hello,
> I completely agree with Thor. We have to do something for free. We have to contribute, not just use. Whoever and whatever.
> Examples:
> - This list is ran for free (hardware, software, time, energy are used for) and giving us a chance to communicate
> - The most of us use Linux, whichever flavor you prefer. The most of it is free time contribution. Somebody pays for that, but we use.
> It is nice to be paid for something, but consider the alternative. Otherwise our communications will die and we do not have an OS for a fun or profit.
>
> Mikhail Utin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-bounces [at] lists [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces [at] lists] On Behalf Of full-disclosure-request [at] lists
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:00 AM
> To: full-disclosure [at] lists
> Subject: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:24:51 +0000
> From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor [at] hammerofgod>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] How much time is appropriate for fixing
> a bug?
> To: Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski>, Stefan Kanthak
> <stefan.kanthak [at] nexgo>
> Cc: "full-disclosure [at] lists"
> <full-disclosure [at] lists>
> Message-ID: <CC205E3D.3561%thor [at] hammerofgod>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>
> I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact type of
> person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass about the
> industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever done has been
> "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been completely self-serving
> egotistical bullshit.
>
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Jul 10, 2012, 11:53 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Mikhail A. Utin
<mutin [at] commonwealthcare> wrote:
> Hey you,
> I do what I want to do and support who I want supporting.
> If you did not get the idea, it is not my fault. Read again, if you can.
>
> M

Is you misspell "who I want supporting" you is mean to say "who I want
to support" is proper English. Next time is take deep breathe, is
relax for you to type!

Look is not my fault you pick to choose to stay on backdoor kernel. If
you don't has clue, please, Amazon is your friend
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=clue

Is read what again?

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Jul 10, 2012, 12:16 PM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

I reply to you is back "on-list." Information is for meant to be free.
And so you know, is no, your English is improper:

You say: "People do not need seeing your arguments"

Is correct: "People do not need to READ your comments"

Or: "People should not read your comments"

Or: "People don't want to read your comments"

Is you must, or can, is go back to finish high school. Is maybe in
Boston is how you speak that what you call English but you is need
remember, in Boston is people say "pock" when they is mean PARK and is
also say "cah" when they is mean CAR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbK4cL3QSc0

Please is stop pollute my inbox with your non-English.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Mikhail A. Utin
<mutin [at] commonwealthcare> wrote:
> Sorry, but it is not misspelling. Man, you definitely need learning modern English. And do not pollute the list. See, I reply only to you. People do not need seeing (learn - not "to see") your arguments.
> You definitely need acquiring better communication skills.
>
> M

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therancor at gmail

Jul 10, 2012, 12:30 PM

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<3
On Jul 10, 2012 9:17 PM, "Григорий Братислава" <musntlive [at] gmail> wrote:

> I reply to you is back "on-list." Information is for meant to be free.
> And so you know, is no, your English is improper:
>
> You say: "People do not need seeing your arguments"
>
> Is correct: "People do not need to READ your comments"
>
> Or: "People should not read your comments"
>
> Or: "People don't want to read your comments"
>
> Is you must, or can, is go back to finish high school. Is maybe in
> Boston is how you speak that what you call English but you is need
> remember, in Boston is people say "pock" when they is mean PARK and is
> also say "cah" when they is mean CAR:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbK4cL3QSc0
>
> Please is stop pollute my inbox with your non-English.
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Mikhail A. Utin
> <mutin [at] commonwealthcare> wrote:
> > Sorry, but it is not misspelling. Man, you definitely need learning
> modern English. And do not pollute the list. See, I reply only to you.
> People do not need seeing (learn - not "to see") your arguments.
> > You definitely need acquiring better communication skills.
> >
> > M
>
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valdis.kletnieks at vt

Jul 10, 2012, 12:48 PM

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:16:39 -0400, Григорий Братислава said:
> I reply to you is back "on-list." Information is for meant to be free.
> And so you know, is no, your English is improper:

The longer this thread goes on, the more I become convinced that
one of these guys actually lives in Nebraska and the other in Arizona. ;)

derek at derekbelrose

Jul 10, 2012, 12:52 PM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

This is truly a very strange discussion, indeed.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:48 PM, valdis.kletnieks [at] vt
<valdis.kletnieks [at] vt> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:16:39 -0400, �� said:
>> I reply to you is back "on-list." Information is for meant to be free.
>> And so you know, is no, your English is improper:
>
> The longer this thread goes on, the more I become convinced that
> one of these guys actually lives in Nebraska and the other in Arizona. ;)

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Jul 10, 2012, 1:11 PM

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Arizona is place for Witness Protection. Perhaps is maybe that Sabu is
now in Arizona. Nebraska is state for cousinly love and is drink. Also
corn.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:48 PM, <valdis.kletnieks [at] vt> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:16:39 -0400, �� said:
>> I reply to you is back "on-list." Information is for meant to be free.
>> And so you know, is no, your English is improper:
>
> The longer this thread goes on, the more I become convinced that
> one of these guys actually lives in Nebraska and the other in Arizona. ;)

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paul.szabo at sydney

Jul 10, 2012, 3:40 PM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

Dear Mikhail,

>> From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor [at] hammerofgod>
>> To: Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski>, Stefan Kanthak
>> <stefan.kanthak [at] nexgo>
>> Cc: "full-disclosure [at] lists"
>> <full-disclosure [at] lists>
>>
>> I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact type of
>> person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass about the
>> industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever done has been
>> "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been completely self-serving
>> egotistical bullshit.
>
> I completely agree with Thor. ...

You cannot possibly agree with someone who addresses two people in the
singular. You should not agree with someone who ascribes behaviourial
patterns to others, based on his own character traits.

Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before
proffering opinions.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Szabo psz [at] maths http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia

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thor at hammerofgod

Jul 10, 2012, 4:41 PM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

I replied all; the statement was to Guninski alone. Even if I didn't this
is a mailing list and grammar or spelling don't matter. Note I won't
mention your use of "proffering."

Regardless, let's see if I understand you. You are saying one should not
agree with someone who ascribes behavioral (our spelling) patterns to
others based on their own character traits, yet you are telling him he
"cannot possibly agree." It's OK for you to tell him what he can or can't
believe in, but it's not OK for me to voice my own opinion? How exactly
does that make you any different than I?

Did Georgi find some bugs in software that anyone could have found a
decade ago? Sure. And good for him. My point was the WAY he went about
working with the vendor and disclosing it. Defend him all you like, but
no one was helped in those cases, and many many people were hurt. This
isn't "opinion," this is fact you can look up for yourself. Look at
people like Michal Zalewski - he discovered god knows how many bugs in god
knows how many browsers and he was professional about the whole thing.

If you are actually arguing against the claim that disclosure is an
ego-driven process (again, where purposefully and deliberately sought
after) and are defending Georgi at the same time then all I can do is wish
you luck with your life's perceptions. You are of course free to think
what you want, how you want, and when you want - I'll just disagree with
you.

t

On 7/10/12 3:40 PM, "paul.szabo [at] sydney" <paul.szabo [at] sydney>
wrote:

>Dear Mikhail,
>
>>> From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor [at] hammerofgod>
>>> To: Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski>, Stefan Kanthak
>>> <stefan.kanthak [at] nexgo>
>>> Cc: "full-disclosure [at] lists"
>>> <full-disclosure [at] lists>
>>>
>>> I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact
>>>type of
>>> person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass about the
>>> industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever done has been
>>> "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been completely
>>>self-serving
>>> egotistical bullshit.
>>
>> I completely agree with Thor. ...
>
>You cannot possibly agree with someone who addresses two people in the
>singular. You should not agree with someone who ascribes behaviourial
>patterns to others, based on his own character traits.
>
>Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before
>proffering opinions.
>
>Cheers, Paul
>
>Paul Szabo psz [at] maths http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
>School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia
>
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guninski at guninski

Jul 11, 2012, 6:03 AM

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i feel no obligation to help commercial vendors make more money.
no obligation to their users too.
just check m$ business practices.

partially feel sorry for killing bugs, but vendors introduced
new ones. sorry.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 08:40:45AM +1000, paul.szabo [at] sydney wrote:

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Jul 11, 2012, 6:12 AM

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On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM, <paul.szabo [at] sydney> wrote:

> Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before
> proffering opinions.
>

Is must be an old man thing. No one is use VAX/VMS is only people like
parmaster (oh hai Jason Snitker) is use VAX to make is themselves look
three is one three three seven for IRC monkeys. "Oh hai, is look I
know VAX because is US government is use mind control on me"
(http://www.raven1.net/mcf/v/snitker.htm)

Guninski is washed up. Like is Japanese debris hit California right
now. And is you too is washed up. No one is
use punch card no more. Georgi is no one special lest is only to
himself in mirror. Now is you talking Dan Kaminski, Dan is God! Only
when he is not drunk and sappy over is "red pill blue pill" man.
(Rutkowska). You is say Dan, I say all the way!

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Jul 11, 2012, 6:13 AM

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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski> wrote:

> just check m$ business practices.

You i$ mu$t be on undernet hackphreak still

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mutin at commonwealthcare

Jul 11, 2012, 7:40 AM

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Dear Paul,
You completely missed my point. I was talking about the foundation of this list, which is free service, and the foundation of a lot of current IT technologies, which is freeware. Giving knowledge for free (including software bugs) is the foundation of this civilization. Having profit is a necessity but not all what drives us. Could you personally show any your contribution to the society? Which was not paid for?
My contribution you can find searching/google for my name and "article", and DeepSec 2011 and OWASP AppSec DC 2012 presentations as well. Nobody paid me for. Plus, you can check our portal www.201cmr1700ma.com, which provides knowledge and security documents for free. Then, considering you association with math science, you can possibly estimate the time I've spent for free.
So, my voice pro free knowledge distribution is completely legitimate.

Sincerely

Mikhail utin, CISSP, PhD

-----Original Message-----
From: paul.szabo [at] sydney [mailto:paul.szabo [at] sydney]
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:41 PM
To: full-disclosure [at] lists; Mikhail A. Utin
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing

Dear Mikhail,

>> From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor [at] hammerofgod>
>> To: Georgi Guninski <guninski [at] guninski>, Stefan Kanthak
>> <stefan.kanthak [at] nexgo>
>> Cc: "full-disclosure [at] lists"
>> <full-disclosure [at] lists>
>>
>> I'm not contradicting myself at all - in fact, *you* are the exact
>> type of person I'm talking about. You couldn't give a rat's ass
>> about the industry or anyone but yourself. Nothing you have ever
>> done has been "valuable" to anyone other than you; it has been
>> completely self-serving egotistical bullshit.
>
> I completely agree with Thor. ...

You cannot possibly agree with someone who addresses two people in the singular. You should not agree with someone who ascribes behaviourial patterns to others, based on his own character traits.

Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before proffering opinions.

Cheers, Paul

Paul Szabo psz [at] maths http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au/u/psz/
School of Mathematics and Statistics University of Sydney Australia
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Jul 11, 2012, 7:45 AM

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On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Mikhail A. Utin
<mutin [at] commonwealthcare> wrote:
> Dear Paul,
> You completely missed my point. I was talking about the foundation of this list, which is free service, and the foundation of a lot of current IT technologies, which is freeware. Giving knowledge for free (including software bugs) is the foundation of this civilization. Having profit is a necessity but not all what drives us. Could you personally show any your contribution to the society? Which was not paid for?
> My contribution you can find searching/google for my name and "article", and DeepSec 2011 and OWASP AppSec DC 2012 presentations as well. Nobody paid me for. Plus, you can check our portal www.201cmr1700ma.com, which provides knowledge and security documents for free. Then, considering you association with math science, you can possibly estimate the time I've spent for free.
> So, my voice pro free knowledge distribution is completely legitimate.
>

Hello Full-Disclosure!! !! !!

Is like to warn you about is word "free."

Is electricity free? No, you is pay to use your ISP, your electricity.
Therefore, free is overabuse use of word.

Is we now describe free research to mean: "Out of pocket
vulnerability!" Is where is RFP when is needed most?

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laurelai at oneechan

Jul 11, 2012, 8:48 AM

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On 7/11/2012 8:12 AM, Григорий Братислава wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 6:40 PM, <paul.szabo [at] sydney> wrote:
>
>> Are you familiar with Georgi's work? Please look at his website before
>> proffering opinions.
>>
> Is must be an old man thing. No one is use VAX/VMS is only people like
> parmaster (oh hai Jason Snitker) is use VAX to make is themselves look
> three is one three three seven for IRC monkeys. "Oh hai, is look I
> know VAX because is US government is use mind control on me"
> (http://www.raven1.net/mcf/v/snitker.htm)
>
> Guninski is washed up. Like is Japanese debris hit California right
> now. And is you too is washed up. No one is
> use punch card no more. Georgi is no one special lest is only to
> himself in mirror. Now is you talking Dan Kaminski, Dan is God! Only
> when he is not drunk and sappy over is "red pill blue pill" man.
> (Rutkowska). You is say Dan, I say all the way!
>
> _______________________________________________
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

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Jul 11, 2012, 8:56 AM

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Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
you as Ms. if you are still a he.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

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laurelai at oneechan

Jul 11, 2012, 8:57 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

On 7/11/2012 10:56 AM, Григорий Братислава wrote:
> Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
> respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
> you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
> right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
> you as Ms. if you are still a he.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

I repeat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY

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musntlive at gmail

Jul 11, 2012, 8:59 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:

>
> I repeat:

That is good. We all is repeat now also: "Is we are to address you as
Miss, Ms. or is you not get kielbasa lopped yet?"

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Jul 11, 2012, 9:03 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

Is bug you yes is because you is cannot ID me? I'd like to warn you
and Full Disclosure!! !! !! "MusntLive is not play by dox games"

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo> wrote:
> Same has to you: fake ouzbek or real yankee? In regard of you degenerate I
> bet yankee.
> Choose which has to be and stick language. You understand?
>
> ________________________________
> From: �� <musntlive [at] gmail>
> To: Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan>
> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:56 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ]
> How much time is appropriate for fixing
>
> Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
> respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
> you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
> right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
> you as Ms. if you are still a he.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:
>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
>
> _______________________________________________
> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>
>

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musntlive at gmail

Jul 11, 2012, 9:24 AM

Post #21 of 23 (621 views)
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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

Is penis envy? Even is I waste my time on CEH is likely still a) make
is more money than you with or is without cert b) is would have
accomplished something is versus nothing c) is prove that MusntLive
annoy you so muchso, that you is prove to MusntLive and list is you
really have no friends. MusntLive take care of everyone including you:
http://www.amazon.com/Friends-The-Complete-Series-Collection/dp/B000H6SXMY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342022651&sr=8-1
Is you do not have to be lonely anymore. You can has friends every
times.

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:19 PM, NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo> wrote:
> Me has LOL.
> Has spot you:
> http://40kegger.blogspot.fr/2012/03/i-am-lazy-lazy-man.html
> Dave has joke but maybe true.
> Anyway you has to be one of those who read about FD in one of those
> "hacking: hands on" or "hacker's guide" on Amazon. Or just passed your CEH!
> Please has respect of Dave and Dave has soon respect of you. No problem with
> you, fun, yes, very true.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: �� <musntlive [at] gmail>
> To: NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo>
> Cc: Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan>; "full-disclosure [at] lists"
> <full-disclosure [at] lists>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ]
> How much time is appropriate for fixing
>
> Is bug you yes is because you is cannot ID me? I'd like to warn you
> and Full Disclosure!! !! !! "MusntLive is not play by dox games"
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo> wrote:
>> Same has to you: fake ouzbek or real yankee? In regard of you degenerate I
>> bet yankee.
>> Choose which has to be and stick language. You understand?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: �� <musntlive [at] gmail>
>> To: Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan>
>> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:56 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ]
>> How much time is appropriate for fixing
>>
>> Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
>> respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
>> you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
>> right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
>> you as Ms. if you are still a he.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> `Wherever I is go - there am I routed`
>
>

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mrx at propergander

Jul 11, 2012, 9:41 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

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List is I read for education, now is I read for much entertaining.

Please, no more post till popcorn supply is better.

white hat = kiss corporate ass
black hat = kiss own ass
grey hat = kiss which ever ass look best.

All corps fuck the people. No altruism in making share holder rich.

Conscience be guide to disclosure method, all different, wrong if different to you, right if same as you.
Same old shit of bull. All depend on childhood programming/indoctrination.

Few people genuinely innocent. If can recognise innocent hurt them not, fuck the rest before fuck you first.

Jiminy Cricket is guide must be.

Peace love and chicken fajitas for life too short for big seriousness.

On 11/07/2012 17:03, �� wrote:
> Is bug you yes is because you is cannot ID me? I'd like to warn you
> and Full Disclosure!! !! !! "MusntLive is not play by dox games"
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo> wrote:
>> Same has to you: fake ouzbek or real yankee? In regard of you degenerate I
>> bet yankee.
>> Choose which has to be and stick language. You understand?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: �� <musntlive [at] gmail>
>> To: Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan>
>> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:56 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ]
>> How much time is appropriate for fixing
>>
>> Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
>> respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
>> you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
>> right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
>> you as Ms. if you are still a he.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>>
>>
>
>
>

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musntlive at gmail

Jul 11, 2012, 10:14 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ] How much time is appropriate for fixing [In reply to]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qggxTtnKTMo

On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dave <mrx [at] propergander> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> List is I read for education, now is I read for much entertaining.
>
> Please, no more post till popcorn supply is better.
>
> white hat = kiss corporate ass
> black hat = kiss own ass
> grey hat = kiss which ever ass look best.
>
> All corps fuck the people. No altruism in making share holder rich.
>
> Conscience be guide to disclosure method, all different, wrong if different to you, right if same as you.
> Same old shit of bull. All depend on childhood programming/indoctrination.
>
> Few people genuinely innocent. If can recognise innocent hurt them not, fuck the rest before fuck you first.
>
> Jiminy Cricket is guide must be.
>
> Peace love and chicken fajitas for life too short for big seriousness.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/07/2012 17:03, Григорий Братислава wrote:
>> Is bug you yes is because you is cannot ID me? I'd like to warn you
>> and Full Disclosure!! !! !! "MusntLive is not play by dox games"
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 12:00 PM, NETT Dave <nett.dave [at] yahoo> wrote:
>>> Same has to you: fake ouzbek or real yankee? In regard of you degenerate I
>>> bet yankee.
>>> Choose which has to be and stick language. You understand?
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Григорий Братислава <musntlive [at] gmail>
>>> To: Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan>
>>> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 5:56 PM
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 89, Issue 11: ]
>>> How much time is appropriate for fixing
>>>
>>> Obligatory question is to must remain politically correct: "When I is
>>> respond to you, am I to address is Wesley or Laurelai?" Not only is
>>> you confused, you is has everyone confused. MusntLive is reserve the
>>> right to dish out equal opportunity flames and is not want to address
>>> you as Ms. if you are still a he.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Laurelai <laurelai [at] oneechan> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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