washington_u_getmama at hushmail
May 12, 2012, 5:14 AM
Post #3 of 3
original pastebin down, here are some more
Re: University of Washington Infected with GetMama 3000 files!
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On Sunday, May 06, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Valdis Kletnieks wrote:On Sat, 05
May 2012 19:33:52 -0000, washington_u_getmama [at] hushmail said:
> dearest FD the university of washington server has been feeding
*the* server, or *a* server? precision in writing is often useful - I
literally several thousand servers across the hall here.
> if they can not keep the servers safe from the public then what are
> they getting paid to do?
So in a bored moment, I took a look at the list, and noticed the
1) There's only a very limited number of upper-level pathnames:
/nfs/aesop02/hw22/d23/sauf/hubproject/ (493 files)
/nfs/aesop01/hw11/d04/geog/wordpress/ (605 files)
/nfs/aesop01/hw11/d08/rjsanyal/ (326 files)
/nfs/aesop01/hw11/d29/drobnygp/wordpress/ (658 files)
/nfs/aesop01/hw12/d56/dwsamplr/ (2 files)
/nfs/giovanni11/dw21/d98/uwfarm (1 file)
/nfs/aesop03/hw31/d24/cerid/ (1 file)
/nfs/giovanni13/dw23/d68/uwkc/phpBB3/cache/ (129 files)
/nfs/giovanni13/dw23/d95/rgeorgi/ (2 files)
/nfs/giovanni13/dw23/d15/ckwalsh/post_versions/ (50 files)
/nfs/giovanni13/dw23/d72/ukc/wordpress/ (308 files)
/nfs/aesop01/hw11/d04/geog/wordpress/ (1 file)
2) The pathnames certainly look like they have components that are
userids or department hames - and there's only 12 of them.
3) UW is like 30K students. If out of 30K students, only 12 have
with this thing, that's an incredibly *good* track record.
So this raises the question - what *exactly* does the UW AUP say?
important, because we need to know that to resolve several questions:
1) If a user uploads infected files, or creates a publically writable
directory that then
gets used to upload the files, is it the user's responsibility or UW's
to clean up the
2) Does UW even have the *right* to take down a user file without lots
of due process
just because it's infected with something?
At least in the US, an ISP has a "safe harbor" exemption under 17 USC
the ISP has no liability for copyright-infringing material uploaded by
as long as they respond to takedown notices. And that's for files
existence is *illegal*. I don't think anybody on this list (with the
exception of n3td3v if he's still lurking) wants the ISP to have the
worse, the responsibility) to auto-nuke files that are merely "likely
dangerous" - simply because "likely dangerous" is a very slippery
And since UW is a university, the whole "academic freedom" thing means
usually even tougher to take a user's stuff down without lots of due