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wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo

Nov 4, 2009, 5:19 AM

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Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke

We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers & friends.

At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke. R.I.P my friend.

http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c

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w3bd3vil at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 5:39 AM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

A very sad news indeed.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>wrote:

> We are mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to str0ke when I
> started publishing exploit codes onto this mailing list, he would always be
> polite and friendly in his emails. I got to know him over the years and am
> saddened by his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and hacking
> subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked with him I asked him if I
> could interview him for my blog, he laughed and said he should be
> interviewing the exploit writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke
> and str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the exploit
> developers and his website was the bread and butter of many a hackers day.
> He will sadly be missed by many people, hackers & friends.
>
>
> At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment
> being added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to you str0ke.
> R.I.P my friend.
>
>
>
> http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c
>
>
>
>
>
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wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo

Nov 4, 2009, 1:58 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine.

--- On Wed, 4/11/09, webDEViL <w3bd3vil [at] gmail> wrote:

> From: webDEViL <w3bd3vil [at] gmail>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
> To: "Micheal Turner" <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
> Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 1:39 PM
> A very sad news indeed.
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:49 PM,
> Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> wrote:
>
> We are
> mourning a good friend today. I first begun talking to
> str0ke when I started publishing exploit codes onto this
> mailing list, he would always be polite and friendly in his
> emails. I got to know him over the years and am saddened by
> his departure, he contributed to the exploit scene and
> hacking subculture in a huge way. The last time I talked
> with him I asked him if I could interview him for my blog,
> he laughed and said he should be interviewing the exploit
> writers since he didnt do anything. That was str0ke and
> str0ke did alot, he always fought for the rights of the
> exploit developers and his website was the bread and butter
> of many a hackers day. He will sadly be missed by many
> people, hackers & friends.
>
>
>
> At least now we can post exploits without that damn // milw0rm.com comment being
> added to the end!!! ;-) I joke, this code is dedicated to
> you str0ke. R.I.P my friend.
>
>
>
> http://www.hackerfantastic.com/archive/exploits/prdelka-vs-APPLE-ptracepanic.c
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>

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hawkgotyou at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 2:29 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

http://twitter.com/str0ke

It has happened for rgod an now with str0ke.. in both case they are
alive, and in both case there are idiots/trolls who claims the
opposite..

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frank2 at dc949

Nov 4, 2009, 3:08 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo> wrote:
> It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he is fine.

What's "pure evil" about exploiting the ease by which one can spread
misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a community
like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it around without
truly confirming its origins.

I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself instead of
calling this prank "pure evil."

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wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo

Nov 4, 2009, 4:13 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts & feelings of the person being trolled or the others who may read them.

In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day "doing-the-rounds", spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out they are dead is just horrible.

There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it.

--- On Wed, 4/11/09, frank^2 <frank2 [at] dc949> wrote:

> From: frank^2 <frank2 [at] dc949>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
> To: "Micheal Turner" <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
> Date: Wednesday, 4 November, 2009, 11:08 PM
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:58 PM,
> Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> wrote:
> > It seems the whole thing was a Hoax rumor put about by
> people who I can only describe as pure evil. Glad to know he
> is fine.
>
> What's "pure evil" about exploiting the ease by which one
> can spread
> misinformation? If anything, it exposes how willing even a
> community
> like this is to believe a single blogpost and spread it
> around without
> truly confirming its origins.
>
> I was trolled, I have lost. Feel free to admit it yourself
> instead of
> calling this prank "pure evil."
>

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frank2 at dc949

Nov 4, 2009, 4:50 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo> wrote:
> Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts & feelings of the person being trolled or the others who may read them.
>
> In a community where whispers and hear-say can even get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day "doing-the-rounds", spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making out they are dead is just horrible.
>
> There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it.
>

This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument about on this
list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the matter.

It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing wickedness
with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind the prank
was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that the prank
was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but I'm
doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm. I hate to
be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the purpose
was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a long while
publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy period of
time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped in a while
back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but that's about
all I remember.)

While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and intent to
truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't think it's
particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank evil. "Evil"
is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of trolling is to
get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or comment-- it
doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here was
emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's more accurate
to say they just simply didn't care.

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wh1t3h4t3 at yahoo

Nov 4, 2009, 5:07 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls?

I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you.

--- On Thu, 5/11/09, frank^2 <frank2 [at] dc949> wrote:

> From: frank^2 <frank2 [at] dc949>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke
> To: "Micheal Turner" <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> Cc: full-disclosure [at] lists
> Date: Thursday, 5 November, 2009, 12:50 AM
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM,
> Micheal Turner <wh1t3h4t3 [at] yahoo>
> wrote:
> > Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead,
> publicly, and placing obituaries online shows no regard for
> the thoughts & feelings of the person being trolled or
> the others who may read them.
> >
> > In a community where whispers and hear-say can even
> get SANS to look for an OpenSSH 0day "doing-the-rounds",
> spreading 'misinformation' about a well-liked individual who
> worked on a project for the community is unpleasant - making
> out they are dead is just horrible.
> >
> > There are people at the end of the computers. Don't
> ever forget it.
> >
>
> This is kind of a silly tangent to be having an argument
> about on this
> list, so I'll try to make this my last comment on the
> matter.
>
> It may be a little semantic, but I feel you're confusing
> wickedness
> with a lack of empathy. Evil implies that the intent behind
> the prank
> was to cause emotional harm. It's certainly detestable that
> the prank
> was based in making people assume that str0ke was dead, but
> I'm
> doubtful that the purpose of its spread was to cause harm.
> I hate to
> be That Guy That Explains The Joke, but I'm pretty sure the
> purpose
> was to mock the fact that a) str0ke has been quiet for a
> long while
> publicly and b) milw0rm hasn't been updated for a lengthy
> period of
> time for yet-to-be explained reasons. (I think v3n0m piped
> in a while
> back and said they were taking care of the backlog, but
> that's about
> all I remember.)
>
> While the line between apathy towards others' emotions and
> intent to
> truly cause harm to one's emotions can be blurred, I don't
> think it's
> particularly fair to call the perpetrators of this prank
> evil. "Evil"
> is taking joy in the suffering of others. The intent of
> trolling is to
> get a specific reaction from a crafted falsehood or
> comment-- it
> doesn't necessarily follow that the expected reaction here
> was
> emotional harm. So given the circumstances, I feel it's
> more accurate
> to say they just simply didn't care.
>

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vpn.1.fanatic at gmail

Nov 4, 2009, 7:17 PM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

"There are people at the end of the computers. Don't ever forget it."

Did you and them get your degree from the same university of trolls?
>
> I have mistaken nothing for nothing. Fuck you.
>
>
Regardless, you should have known he wasn't dead. Your tongue is so far up
his ass didn't you feel he was still at 37c ?

You remind me of: LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!

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ciao

JT

tripmonster at gmail

Nov 5, 2009, 7:10 AM

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Re: Apple ptrace panic PoC - R.I.P str0ke [In reply to]

>
> Its evil. Making people believe that someone is dead, publicly, and placing
> obituaries online shows no regard for the thoughts & feelings of the person
> being trolled or the others who may read them.
>

Who cares? I think it would be awesome for people to circulate my death.

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P1 sunjester

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