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dread.roberts at gmail

May 9, 2008, 7:36 AM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20

Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little bits of
your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you are. Jews
are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent. Thats
that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we are trying to
support the freedom of information, not your right to make people listen to
your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite! Its time to
use our resources (such as this list and the people that read it!) to start
making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the group, I'm just
saying unless you are posting something useful save it for someone who gives
a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way, you have
late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!

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> 4. Re: Happy Birthday Israel! (Andrew A)
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> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 23:42:46 -0700
> From: <fewun[at]hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Vacation reply
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> From: "Randal T. Rioux" <randy[at]procyonlabs.com>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Snort Signature to detect credit cards
> To: full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk
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> FYI - http://www.emergingthreats.net
>
> This was discussed on the snort-sigs mailing list back in 2003. Check out
> http://marc.info/?l=snort-sigs&m=106601612825950&w=2
>
> Also, as Ray mentioned, the Emerging Threats emerging-policy.rules
> contains some PCRE CC# checks. This will show you some:
>
> $ more emerging-policy.rules | grep Number
>
>
> Randy
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 11:02 pm, Simon Smith wrote:
> > You sure you got that URL right?
> >
> > Ray P wrote:
> >> The free rule sets from http://www.emergingthreats.com have this
> >> capability. Look in the Policy section.
> >>
> >> RAy
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> From: wilder_jeff[at]msn.com
> >> To: full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk
> >> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:44:15 -0600
> >> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Snort Signature to detect credit cards
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone have a snort signature to detect credit cards or social
> >> security numbers?
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance,
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. Check it out!
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 05:38:34 -0400
> From: "T Biehn" <tbiehn[at]gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Snort Signature to detect credit cards
> To: "Randal T. Rioux" <randy[at]procyonlabs.com>
> Cc: full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk
> Message-ID:
> <2d6724810805090238j1dac5a4qb5fb8c838e2f5965[at]mail.gmail.com>
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> Time to start encoding them using JS now, solutions solutions solutions.
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:15 AM, Randal T. Rioux <randy[at]procyonlabs.com>
> wrote:
> > FYI - http://www.emergingthreats.net
> >
> > This was discussed on the snort-sigs mailing list back in 2003. Check out
> > http://marc.info/?l=snort-sigs&m=106601612825950&w=2
> >
> > Also, as Ray mentioned, the Emerging Threats emerging-policy.rules
> > contains some PCRE CC# checks. This will show you some:
> >
> > $ more emerging-policy.rules | grep Number
> >
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 8, 2008 11:02 pm, Simon Smith wrote:
> >> You sure you got that URL right?
> >>
> >> Ray P wrote:
> >>> The free rule sets from http://www.emergingthreats.com have this
> >>> capability. Look in the Policy section.
> >>>
> >>> RAy
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: wilder_jeff[at]msn.com
> >>> To: full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk
> >>> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:44:15 -0600
> >>> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Snort Signature to detect credit cards
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone have a snort signature to detect credit cards or social
> >>> security numbers?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Get Free (PRODUCT) RED? Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. Check it
> out!
> >>> <http://joinred.spaces.live.com?ocid=TXT_HMTG_prodredemoticons_052008>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> - simon
> >>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 03:13:18 -0700
> From: "Andrew A" <gluttony[at]gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Happy Birthday Israel!
> To: "Mercury Vapour" <n3twar3z[at]gmail.com>
> Cc: full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk
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> There are two possibilities for you. Either you are a Jew, and are trying
> to
> attack me to take community consensus away from the truth, or you are a goy
> who has no idea what Judaism is about. Either way, I'm going to tell you
> the
> truth of the Jewish meme.
>
> The Jews consider themselves a chosen people. According to the law of both
> the Torah and the Talmud, the Jews believe they have political and economic
> rights that the goy do not. What in their philosophy grants them these
> rights?
>
> The answer is a contract with a malevolent, evil god. The Jews like to
> present their God as a universal one, but it actually a very specific god:
> an animistic spirit of a volcano in the desert Sinai which manifested
> itself
> to Moses during an eruption in the form of a burning bush. In one of the
> single greatest acts of pretexting in history (aided by repeated genocides
> of Ammonites, Moabites, etc) the Jews managed to convince other people that
> their god was everyone's god.
>
> So the issue with the Jews is the conditions of this contract. The terms of
> the covenant are outlined in Deuteronomy chapter 6. In this, Jews are
> instructed to create a box to hang outside their house with the words of
> the
> covenant written on a piece of paper inside it. This device is called a
> Mezuzah, contains Deuteronomy 6:4-9 written inside it, and is hung outside
> the home of every Jew that keeps the covenant. After verse 6:9, verses
> 6:10-11 reveal the reward that the Jews get for following the covenant, and
> their real agenda:
> "And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall have brought thee into the
> land which he sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob,
> to
> give thee great and goodly cities, which thou buildedst not, And houses
> full
> of all good things, which thou filledst not, and wells digged, which thou
> diggedst not, vineyards and olive trees, which thou plantedst not; when
> thou
> shalt have eaten and be full;"
>
> Have you ever heard a statement so fundamentally advocating parasitism from
> any other religion in the world? This is not some random statement out of
> context, these are the direct statements after the prayer which is at the
> very core of the Jewish covenant. The Jews believe they have a divine right
> to militarism, parasitism and genocide. If a Jew claims he does not, he is
> either a liar, or knows nothing of his evil religion.
>
> Later in Deuteronomy, Moses describes what "good" Jews are to do to the
> native peoples of the lands that they Jewish forces "liberate" either by
> force or by swindling, first in 7:16
> "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver
> thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve
> their
> gods; for that will be a snare unto thee."
> And again in 20:16
> "But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee
> for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth"
>
> The Jews are just as eager to steal our homes, our farms, the fruits of our
> labor, and completely and utterly wipe us out now as they were to kill the
> Ammonites, Moabites, Canaanites, etc then. And so, they have uprooted great
> constitutional governments founded in the ethics of Nordic and Greek
> Pantheism, as well as Christianity, and replaced them with tyrannical
> bureaucracies in Jewish interests. So they have taken our free currencies
> and replaced them with fiat-based currencies to the benefit of
> multinational
> banking dynasties (the Chairman of the US Federal Reserve, for example, is
> an Orthodox Jew, and every member of the reserve board is an Orthodox Jew).
> So they Balkanize us with third world mud genetics and slowly dismantle our
> right to bear arms. We are expected to not resist as welfare-raised niggers
> rape our daughters (According to U.S. Justice Department figures over
> 34,460
> White women are sexually assaulted or raped by Black men each year, and
> less
> than ten White men rape Black women) and steal all of our goods which are
> not bolted down to something. We are expect to shut up as Jews, having
> taken
> control of the media through the non-elected positions in the FCC,
> broadcast
> their propaganda as infotainment and pump our children's heads full of
> immoral, oversexualized garbage.
>
> Not me. I will speak of Judaism freely as it truly is: a nightmarish
> parasite that is destroying everything that is good in the world. As long
> as
> there remains a single member of a disgusting, despicable religion that
> believes it has the divine right to the fruits of others' labor, to
> militarism, to genocide, then there will be no peace. Not just no peace for
> far off places such as Palestine and Lebanon, but for the United States and
> the rest of the world as well.
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Mercury Vapour <n3twar3z[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew A.:
> >
> > I have read your bullshit rants in the past, and it is clear that you
> have
> > some serious problems and are completely delusional. You must see
> yourself
> > as being a deity of some type. What is your purpose anyway?
> >
> > You fit in well with the other Andrew idiot. Another testament to the
> > profound level of stupidity that has availed itself on this list lately.
> >
> > I would like, however, to point out that your comments are nothing more
> > than a reflection of your own inadequacies. It seems your membership in
> the
> > human race has been invalidated by your need to threaten others with
> nuclear
> > annihilation. I hope you find solace in your efforts to bring terror to
> > others. You certainly surpass the standard model of the idiot in
> > unparalleled magnitude.
> >
> > I wish peace in the self-limiting and pathetic world you live in. Maybe
> > one day you will see who you really are, and apologize to the people you
> > have hurt. But then, some people never come clean.
> >
> > MAZEL TOV !
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Andrew A <gluttony[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 60 years of being a parasite upon the free world
> >>
> >> 60 years of believing you have a divine right to militarism
> >>
> >> 60 years of genocide
> >>
> >> 60 years of greedy, filthy jews
> >>
> >> the rapture is coming, and you'll all be nuked.
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:59 AM, avivra <avivra[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Today we are celebrating, here in Israel, 60 years<
> http://israel60.gov.il/englishnews/categoryList.aspx>of being an
> independent country. As part of the celebration, I'm releasing a
> >>> new 0day vulnerability.
> >>> One of our customs in Independence day is to play a "treasure hunt<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_hunt>"
> >>> game. In this game there is a treasure hidden somewhere in our
> beautiful
> >>> country, and we get mysterious clues that help us find this treasure by
> >>> traveling to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galilee> many<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_Heights>
> >>> great <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negev> sites<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judean_Desert>all over Israel.
> >>> In the spirit of this day, I've decided not to release full details
> about
> >>> this vulnerability yet, but rather play a little "treasure hunt" game.
> >>> Somewhere in my blog <http://aviv.raffon.net/>, I embedded a
> >>> proof-of-concept code which exploits this 0day vulnerability.
> >>>
> >>> Clues for finding the 0day treasure can be found here:
> >>> http://aviv.raffon.net/2008/05/07/HappyBirthdayIsrael.aspx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --Aviv
> >>>
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> >
> > --
> > - Scott
> >
> > Ex Nihilo Nihil
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joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 8:14 AM

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Dead Roberts,

On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
<dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little
>bits of
>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you
>are. Jews
>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent.
>Thats
>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we are
>trying to
>support the freedom of information, not your right to make people
>listen to
>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
>Its time to
>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read it!)
>to start
>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the group,
>I'm just
>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for someone
>who gives
>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way,
>you have
>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
>

Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they did
that shit wouldn't have been clever.

J
"Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds

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groffg at gmgdesign

May 9, 2008, 8:33 AM

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I think it's time to cut out this anti-semitic crap. It violates the list
charter and it's just embarrassing (to those who hold such hateful
opinions). If you want to be complicit in hateful propaganda that echoes
that of the mindless Islamic fascism that is so rampant in many parts of
the world, then so be it (best of luck with that). But pls do so outside of
the context of this list, or better yet, not at all.

- - G


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20


> Dead Roberts,
>
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
> <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
>>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little
>>bits of
>>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you
>>are. Jews
>>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent.
>>Thats
>>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we are
>>trying to
>>support the freedom of information, not your right to make people
>>listen to
>>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
>>Its time to
>>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read it!)
>>to start
>>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the group,
>>I'm just
>>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for someone
>>who gives
>>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way,
>>you have
>>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
>>
>
> Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they did
> that shit wouldn't have been clever.
>
> J
> "Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds
>
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joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 12:45 PM

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Dead Groff,

Please keep your anti Muslim rants off list.

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:33:05 -0400 "Garrett M. Groff"
<groffg[at]gmgdesign.com> wrote:
>I think it's time to cut out this anti-semitic crap. It violates
>the list
>charter and it's just embarrassing (to those who hold such hateful
>opinions). If you want to be complicit in hateful propaganda that
>echoes
>that of the mindless Islamic fascism that is so rampant in many
>parts of
>the world, then so be it (best of luck with that). But pls do so
>outside of
>the context of this list, or better yet, not at all.
>
>- G
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
>To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com>
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:14 AM
>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39,
>Issue 20
>
>
>> Dead Roberts,
>>
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
>> <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
>>>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little
>>>bits of
>>>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you
>>>are. Jews
>>>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent.
>>>Thats
>>>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we
>are
>>>trying to
>>>support the freedom of information, not your right to make
>people
>>>listen to
>>>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
>>>Its time to
>>>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read
>it!)
>>>to start
>>>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the
>group,
>>>I'm just
>>>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for
>someone
>>>who gives
>>>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way,
>>>you have
>>>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
>>>
>>
>> Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they
>did
>> that shit wouldn't have been clever.
>>
>> J
>> "Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds
>>
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groffg at gmgdesign

May 9, 2008, 1:25 PM

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There are Muslims and then there are Islamic fascists. You seem to think
they are the same thing, which doesn't exactly point to strong analytical
skills on your part. Or were you just using inflammatory rhetoric?

Flame away, if you must...

- - G



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From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20


> Dead Groff,
>
> Please keep your anti Muslim rants off list.
>
> J
>
> On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:33:05 -0400 "Garrett M. Groff"
> <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com> wrote:
>>I think it's time to cut out this anti-semitic crap. It violates
>>the list
>>charter and it's just embarrassing (to those who hold such hateful
>>opinions). If you want to be complicit in hateful propaganda that
>>echoes
>>that of the mindless Islamic fascism that is so rampant in many
>>parts of
>>the world, then so be it (best of luck with that). But pls do so
>>outside of
>>the context of this list, or better yet, not at all.
>>
>>- G
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
>>To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com>
>>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:14 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39,
>>Issue 20
>>
>>
>>> Dead Roberts,
>>>
>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
>>> <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
>>>>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little
>>>>bits of
>>>>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you
>>>>are. Jews
>>>>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent.
>>>>Thats
>>>>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we
>>are
>>>>trying to
>>>>support the freedom of information, not your right to make
>>people
>>>>listen to
>>>>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
>>>>Its time to
>>>>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read
>>it!)
>>>>to start
>>>>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the
>>group,
>>>>I'm just
>>>>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for
>>someone
>>>>who gives
>>>>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way,
>>>>you have
>>>>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they
>>did
>>> that shit wouldn't have been clever.
>>>
>>> J
>>> "Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds
>>>
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eharrison at gmail

May 9, 2008, 1:33 PM

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just add 'joey.mengele <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>' to the same filter as
you have setup with n3td3v to fling this sort of trash into your deleted
email folder. it helps.

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Garrett M. Groff <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com>
wrote:

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> There are Muslims and then there are Islamic fascists. You seem to think
> they are the same thing, which doesn't exactly point to strong analytical
> skills on your part. Or were you just using inflammatory rhetoric?
>
> Flame away, if you must...
>
> - - G
>
>
>
> - - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
> To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20
>
>
> > Dead Groff,
> >
> > Please keep your anti Muslim rants off list.
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:33:05 -0400 "Garrett M. Groff"
> > <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com> wrote:
> >>I think it's time to cut out this anti-semitic crap. It violates
> >>the list
> >>charter and it's just embarrassing (to those who hold such hateful
> >>opinions). If you want to be complicit in hateful propaganda that
> >>echoes
> >>that of the mindless Islamic fascism that is so rampant in many
> >>parts of
> >>the world, then so be it (best of luck with that). But pls do so
> >>outside of
> >>the context of this list, or better yet, not at all.
> >>
> >>- G
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
> >>To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com>
> >>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:14 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39,
> >>Issue 20
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dead Roberts,
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
> >>> <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps arse.
> >>>>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in little
> >>>>bits of
> >>>>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar you
> >>>>are. Jews
> >>>>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the innocent.
> >>>>Thats
> >>>>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we
> >>are
> >>>>trying to
> >>>>support the freedom of information, not your right to make
> >>people
> >>>>listen to
> >>>>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
> >>>>Its time to
> >>>>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read
> >>it!)
> >>>>to start
> >>>>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the
> >>group,
> >>>>I'm just
> >>>>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for
> >>someone
> >>>>who gives
> >>>>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the way,
> >>>>you have
> >>>>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they
> >>did
> >>> that shit wouldn't have been clever.
> >>>
> >>> J
> >>> "Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds
> >>>
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May 9, 2008, 3:49 PM

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gmgdesign,

What is the difference between being prejudiced against islamist
fascists and being prejudiced against the jews? I await your
analytical response.

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 16:25:18 -0400 "Garrett M. Groff"
<groffg[at]gmgdesign.com> wrote:
>There are Muslims and then there are Islamic fascists. You seem to
>think
>they are the same thing, which doesn't exactly point to strong
>analytical
>skills on your part. Or were you just using inflammatory rhetoric?
>
>Flame away, if you must...
>
>- G
>
>
>
>- ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
>To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com>
>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39,
>Issue 20
>
>
>> Dead Groff,
>>
>> Please keep your anti Muslim rants off list.
>>
>> J
>>
>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:33:05 -0400 "Garrett M. Groff"
>> <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com> wrote:
>>>I think it's time to cut out this anti-semitic crap. It violates
>>>the list
>>>charter and it's just embarrassing (to those who hold such
>hateful
>>>opinions). If you want to be complicit in hateful propaganda
>that
>>>echoes
>>>that of the mindless Islamic fascism that is so rampant in many
>>>parts of
>>>the world, then so be it (best of luck with that). But pls do so
>>>outside of
>>>the context of this list, or better yet, not at all.
>>>
>>>- G
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
>>>To: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>;
><dread.roberts[at]gmail.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:14 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39,
>>>Issue 20
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dead Roberts,
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 09 May 2008 10:36:43 -0400 Jesse Bacon
>>>> <dread.roberts[at]gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Listen you self righteous, do-nothing, uninformed, sheeps
>arse.
>>>>>Misquoting verses from the old testament and adding in
>little
>>>>>bits of
>>>>>your own fascism doesn't show anybody how much of a scholar
>you
>>>>>are. Jews
>>>>>are taught to respect their fellow man and protect the
>innocent.
>>>>>Thats
>>>>>that. Please keep your ignorance off of this list because we
>>>are
>>>>>trying to
>>>>>support the freedom of information, not your right to make
>>>people
>>>>>listen to
>>>>>your bigoted rantings. Serious developers and scholars unite!
>>>>>Its time to
>>>>>use our resources (such as this list and the people that read
>>>it!)
>>>>>to start
>>>>>making a difference. I am not saying you should leave the
>>>group,
>>>>>I'm just
>>>>>saying unless you are posting something useful save it for
>>>someone
>>>>>who gives
>>>>>a shit what you think...a social forum for example. By the
>way,
>>>>>you have
>>>>>late fees at Blockbuster. Peace cracker!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blockbuster doesn't have late fees "cracker". But even if they
>>>did
>>>> that shit wouldn't have been clever.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>> "Fuck Zionism and Fuck You Too" - Linus Torvalds
>>>>
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Valdis.Kletnieks at vt

May 9, 2008, 4:24 PM

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On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:49:41 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
> gmgdesign,
>
> What is the difference between being prejudiced against islamist
> fascists and being prejudiced against the jews? I await your
> analytical response.

"islamic fascists" is a (probably null) subset of "muslims", while
"jews" is not a similar small subset of itself.

I suppose it would be silly to point out that "fascism" has a totally different
goalset than "islamic fundamentalists", with an even bigger divergence of
philosophy than the Shiite-Sunni rift...


joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 4:34 PM

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Dear Valdis,

What is your point?

And you should elaborate on the claim that islamic fascists aren't
a subset of muslims. I would like you to show your work please, so
I can see how you arrived at the conclusion that muslims are not
muslims LOLOLOL.

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:24:33 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu wrote:
>On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:49:41 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
>> gmgdesign,
>>
>> What is the difference between being prejudiced against islamist
>
>> fascists and being prejudiced against the jews? I await your
>> analytical response.
>
>"islamic fascists" is a (probably null) subset of "muslims", while
>"jews" is not a similar small subset of itself.
>
>I suppose it would be silly to point out that "fascism" has a
>totally different
>goalset than "islamic fundamentalists", with an even bigger
>divergence of
>philosophy than the Shiite-Sunni rift...

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gluttony at gmail

May 9, 2008, 4:35 PM

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Violence and fascism is not at the core of Islamic law.

Parasitism, theft, and fraud is central to the covenant of the Jews.

That is the difference. To be a Jew is to be a thief. To be a Muslim is to
be honorable.

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:24 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:49:41 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
> > gmgdesign,
> >
> > What is the difference between being prejudiced against islamist
> > fascists and being prejudiced against the jews? I await your
> > analytical response.
>
> "islamic fascists" is a (probably null) subset of "muslims", while
> "jews" is not a similar small subset of itself.
>
> I suppose it would be silly to point out that "fascism" has a totally
> different
> goalset than "islamic fundamentalists", with an even bigger divergence of
> philosophy than the Shiite-Sunni rift...
>
>
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joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 4:38 PM

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Also, I got this for you Valdis, scholarly source WikiPedia to
teach you about set theory since you went through all that trouble
to read 9 RFCs for me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset

"Any set is a subset of itself, but not a proper subset." -
WikiPedia

You see, jews are a subset of jews. LOLOLOL, check your work!

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:24:33 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu wrote:
>On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:49:41 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
>> gmgdesign,
>>
>> What is the difference between being prejudiced against islamist
>
>> fascists and being prejudiced against the jews? I await your
>> analytical response.
>
>"islamic fascists" is a (probably null) subset of "muslims", while
>"jews" is not a similar small subset of itself.
>
>I suppose it would be silly to point out that "fascism" has a
>totally different
>goalset than "islamic fundamentalists", with an even bigger
>divergence of
>philosophy than the Shiite-Sunni rift...

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Valdis.Kletnieks at vt

May 9, 2008, 4:41 PM

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On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:38:24 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
> Also, I got this for you Valdis, scholarly source WikiPedia to
> teach you about set theory since you went through all that trouble
> to read 9 RFCs for me:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset
>
> "Any set is a subset of itself, but not a proper subset." -
> WikiPedia
>
> You see, jews are a subset of jews. LOLOLOL, check your work!

You need to read more carefully. I didn't say "jews" wasn't a subset of itself,
I said that "jews" wasn't a *SMALL* subset of itself the way "islamic
fascists" is a small (possibly empty) subset of "muslims".


joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 4:48 PM

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Valdis,

Please show the theorems you used to arrive at this conclusion.

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu wrote:
>On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:38:24 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
>> Also, I got this for you Valdis, scholarly source WikiPedia to
>> teach you about set theory since you went through all that
>trouble
>> to read 9 RFCs for me:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset
>>
>> "Any set is a subset of itself, but not a proper subset." -
>> WikiPedia
>>
>> You see, jews are a subset of jews. LOLOLOL, check your work!
>
>You need to read more carefully. I didn't say "jews" wasn't a
>subset of itself,
>I said that "jews" wasn't a *SMALL* subset of itself the way
>"islamic
>fascists" is a small (possibly empty) subset of "muslims".

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joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 4:50 PM

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Valdis,

Furthermore, using scholarly resource WikiPedia, I have been able
to find more flaw in your statement. As it turns out, the jews
actually *are* a small subset:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

That is small dude! LOLOL.

Now, we both have accepted that any set is a subset of itself, it
is now proven that jews are a small subset of jews. QED AKA LOLOL.

J

On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu wrote:
>On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:38:24 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
>> Also, I got this for you Valdis, scholarly source WikiPedia to
>> teach you about set theory since you went through all that
>trouble
>> to read 9 RFCs for me:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset
>>
>> "Any set is a subset of itself, but not a proper subset." -
>> WikiPedia
>>
>> You see, jews are a subset of jews. LOLOLOL, check your work!
>
>You need to read more carefully. I didn't say "jews" wasn't a
>subset of itself,
>I said that "jews" wasn't a *SMALL* subset of itself the way
>"islamic
>fascists" is a small (possibly empty) subset of "muslims".

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May 9, 2008, 5:15 PM

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Joey Mengele wrote:
| Valdis,
|
| Furthermore, using scholarly resource WikiPedia, I have been able
| to find more flaw in your statement. As it turns out, the jews
| actually *are* a small subset:
|
| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population
|
| That is small dude! LOLOL.
|
| Now, we both have accepted that any set is a subset of itself, it
| is now proven that jews are a small subset of jews. QED AKA LOLOL.
|
| J
|
| On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:41:18 -0400 Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu wrote:
|> On Fri, 09 May 2008 19:38:24 EDT, Joey Mengele said:
|>> Also, I got this for you Valdis, scholarly source WikiPedia to
|>> teach you about set theory since you went through all that
|> trouble
|>> to read 9 RFCs for me:
|>>
|>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory
|>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset
|>>
|>> "Any set is a subset of itself, but not a proper subset." -
|>> WikiPedia
|>>
|>> You see, jews are a subset of jews. LOLOLOL, check your work!
|> You need to read more carefully. I didn't say "jews" wasn't a
|> subset of itself,
|> I said that "jews" wasn't a *SMALL* subset of itself the way
|> "islamic
|> fascists" is a small (possibly empty) subset of "muslims".
|
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This whole list has now gotten used to attacks and other BS.

So everyone joins in on others' BS.

Jees. Welcome to the 'Jerry Springer' of sec!
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coderman at gmail

May 9, 2008, 6:20 PM

Post #16 of 18 (441 views)
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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20 [In reply to]

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Joey Mengele <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> Now, we both have accepted that any set is a subset of itself,...
> QED AKA LOLOL.
>
> J

Dear Dr. Joey J Mengele, PhD.:

while attempting to disprove this assertion of yours, i came across an
unexpected fact that is not only shocking but also self evident with
surprising clarity.

given the set of humans with the ability to write,

and given the set of humans who post more than three responses to a
thread on Full-Disclosure,

and given the set of humans whom I would enjoy beating into a swollen
bloody pulp with my bare fists,

i discovered that not only are the latter two sets a subset of the
first, but they are also near identical sets!!


i have also devised a theory well supported by the available data that
unless corrective measures are taken, the size of all sets mentioned
above will trend toward infinity.

would you kindly provide me your street address and photograph while i
tape up my knuckles and dust off that old lead fist pack? n3t4rd was
at least proactive enough to seed the net with the requisite details
prior to my embarking on this righteous mission.

thank you good doctor,

best regards.

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joey.mengele at hushmail

May 9, 2008, 8:04 PM

Post #17 of 18 (417 views)
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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20 [In reply to]

Dear Codeman,

>
>would you kindly provide me your street address and photograph
>while i
>tape up my knuckles and dust off that old lead fist pack? n3t4rd
>was
>at least proactive enough to seed the net with the requisite
>details
>prior to my embarking on this righteous mission.

Only faggots tape up their knuckles.

>
>thank you good doctor,
>
>best regards.

J
"I am taping up my knuckles and threatening violence on the
internet" - Faggot

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groffg at gmgdesign

May 9, 2008, 9:38 PM

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Re: Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20 (very OT) [In reply to]

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Not silly to point that out at all. I borrowed the media term du jour
("Islamic fascists," or alternately, "Islamofascists"). I typically use the
term "Salafist radicals" since it's more technically correct and less
inflammatory (well, not necessarily on FD), but that term often
necessitates more explanation.

- - G


You wrote:
"islamic fascists" is a (probably null) subset of "muslims", while
"jews" is not a similar small subset of itself.

I suppose it would be silly to point out that "fascism" has a totally
different
goalset than "islamic fundamentalists", with an even bigger divergence of
philosophy than the Shiite-Sunni rift...


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From: <Valdis.Kletnieks[at]vt.edu>
To: "Joey Mengele" <joey.mengele[at]hushmail.com>
Cc: <full-disclosure[at]lists.grok.org.uk>; <groffg[at]gmgdesign.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Full-Disclosure Digest, Vol 39, Issue 20


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