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G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 22, 2006, 2:06 AM

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How to Setup Multilanguage Site!

Forrest Users,

I'm new to forrest but managed to install forrest and do a forrest seed. This resulted in the well known example site! I'm trying to build an experimental site using forrest. It needs to have pages partly in English and Dutch. I've tried to find some info regarding how to tackle this problem, but have found nothing suitable. All that I've found is to technical, sorry!

Can anybody give some hints on how to start solving this problem? I'd like to use for example a second level tab to switch from English to Dutch. Buttons to switch language on the a page will also suffice.

By the way, do I need to study the cocoon manual to start using forrest effectively?

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Verhaag, Gerard

nico at veenkamp

Jun 22, 2006, 3:02 AM

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Gerard,

<quote> G.Verhaag [at] lrcb</quote>
> I'm new to forrest but managed to install forrest and do a forrest seed.
> This resulted in the well known example site! I'm trying to build an
> experimental site using forrest. It needs to have pages partly in English
> and Dutch. I've tried to find some info regarding how to tackle this
> problem, but have found nothing suitable. All that I've found is to
> technical, sorry!

I have recently contributed some dutch info to forrest. Specifically for
the test site, the menu items and the tabs.

I am now trying to pull the info together for making i18n stuff for
Forrest easier to access. I could use your help in doing this.

> Can anybody give some hints on how to start solving this problem? I'd like
> to use for example a second level tab to switch from English to Dutch.
> Buttons to switch language on the a page will also suffice.

> By the way, do I need to study the cocoon manual to start using forrest
> effectively?

No, not to my knowledge.

------------------------------------------
Nico Veenkamp
Open Source Solutions for Internet (OSSFI)
T: 06-53193353
E: nico [at] veenkamp
W: http://www.ossfi.nl
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weblog: http://blog.ossfi.nl

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G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 26, 2006, 11:17 PM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hoi,

It seems that this topic is not interesting enough to get responses, which is rather disappointing, sorry!

I don't think I can contribute any further because I don't understand the world of XML enough to be of any serious help!

Some questions remain however! For example, what is the meaning of all the catalog entries in the menu_*.xml of the translations directory? Can anybody tell how to use them? Thanks!

Bye,
Gerard

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Nico Veenkamp [mailto:nico [at] veenkamp]
Verzonden: donderdag 22 juni 2006 13:02
Aan: user [at] forrest
Onderwerp: Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site!

Gerard,

<quote> G.Verhaag [at] lrcb</quote>
> I'm new to forrest but managed to install forrest and do a forrest seed.
> This resulted in the well known example site! I'm trying to build an
> experimental site using forrest. It needs to have pages partly in English
> and Dutch. I've tried to find some info regarding how to tackle this
> problem, but have found nothing suitable. All that I've found is to
> technical, sorry!

I have recently contributed some dutch info to forrest. Specifically for
the test site, the menu items and the tabs.

I am now trying to pull the info together for making i18n stuff for
Forrest easier to access. I could use your help in doing this.

> Can anybody give some hints on how to start solving this problem? I'd like
> to use for example a second level tab to switch from English to Dutch.
> Buttons to switch language on the a page will also suffice.

> By the way, do I need to study the cocoon manual to start using forrest
> effectively?

No, not to my knowledge.

------------------------------------------
Nico Veenkamp
Open Source Solutions for Internet (OSSFI)
T: 06-53193353
E: nico [at] veenkamp
W: http://www.ossfi.nl
weblog: http://www.breathinbreathout.com
weblog: http://blog.ossfi.nl

<a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=8538&t=1">Get
Firefox!</a>

thorsten at apache

Jun 27, 2006, 12:26 AM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

El mar, 27-06-2006 a las 09:17 +0200, G.Verhaag [at] lrcb escribió:
> Hoi,
>
> It seems that this topic is not interesting enough to get responses, which is rather disappointing, sorry!
>

http://www.mail-archive.com/user [at] forrest/msg02131.html

It has nothing to do with interesting or not, but that is a often
discussed topic. We need better documentation about it.

Here another link that may help
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=user_forrest_apache_org&restrict=&exclude=&words=i18n

> I don't think I can contribute any further because I don't understand the world of XML enough to be of any serious help!

So you can point out sharp corners and may write down the step you took
to activate i18n.

> Some questions remain however! For example, what is the meaning of all the catalog entries in the menu_*.xml of the translations directory? Can anybody tell how to use them? Thanks!

I think best to read this
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/i18nTransformer.html

The menu_*.xml are catalogues:
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/i18nTransformer.html#Catalogues
+(Dictionaries)

If this does not help, please ask again.

HTH

salu2

>
> Bye,
> Gerard
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Nico Veenkamp [mailto:nico [at] veenkamp]
> Verzonden: donderdag 22 juni 2006 13:02
> Aan: user [at] forrest
> Onderwerp: Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site!
>
>
> Gerard,
>
> <quote> G.Verhaag [at] lrcb</quote>
> > I'm new to forrest but managed to install forrest and do a forrest seed.
> > This resulted in the well known example site! I'm trying to build an
> > experimental site using forrest. It needs to have pages partly in English
> > and Dutch. I've tried to find some info regarding how to tackle this
> > problem, but have found nothing suitable. All that I've found is to
> > technical, sorry!
>
> I have recently contributed some dutch info to forrest. Specifically for
> the test site, the menu items and the tabs.
>
> I am now trying to pull the info together for making i18n stuff for
> Forrest easier to access. I could use your help in doing this.
>
> > Can anybody give some hints on how to start solving this problem? I'd like
> > to use for example a second level tab to switch from English to Dutch.
> > Buttons to switch language on the a page will also suffice.
>
>
> > By the way, do I need to study the cocoon manual to start using forrest
> > effectively?
>
> No, not to my knowledge.
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Nico Veenkamp
> Open Source Solutions for Internet (OSSFI)
> T: 06-53193353
> E: nico [at] veenkamp
> W: http://www.ossfi.nl
> weblog: http://www.breathinbreathout.com
> weblog: http://blog.ossfi.nl
>
> <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=8538&t=1">Get
> Firefox!</a>
>
--
thorsten

"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)

G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 27, 2006, 1:12 AM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hoi Forrest Users,

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:thorsten [at] apache]
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 juni 2006 10:27
Aan: user [at] forrest
Onderwerp: RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site!

El mar, 27-06-2006 a las 09:17 +0200, G.Verhaag [at] lrcb escribió:
> Hoi,
>
> It seems that this topic is not interesting enough to get responses, which is rather disappointing, sorry!
>

http://www.mail-archive.com/user [at] forrest/msg02131.html

It has nothing to do with interesting or not, but that is a often
discussed topic. We need better documentation about it.

Here another link that may help
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?config=user_forrest_apache_org&restrict=&exclude=&words=i18n

> I don't think I can contribute any further because I don't understand the world of XML enough to be of any serious help!

So you can point out sharp corners and may write down the step you took
to activate i18n.

> Some questions remain however! For example, what is the meaning of all the catalog entries in the menu_*.xml of the translations directory? Can anybody tell how to use them? Thanks!

I think best to read this
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/i18nTransformer.html

The menu_*.xml are catalogues:
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/i18nTransformer.html#Catalogues
+(Dictionaries)

If this does not help, please ask again.

HTH

salu2

thorsten

"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)

--

Thanks for the suggested information! I'll certainly go through it!

But I'm afraid that my knowledge about xml, dtd's, schema's and xslt is insufficient to tackle this multilanguage topic! Knowledge about all this is definitely needed to configure forrest to one's own needs, sorry!

But I'll keep trying, and will return to this topic later on!

Regards,
Gerard

G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 27, 2006, 2:43 AM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hoi Forresters,

After some reading, I tried the following using forrest-0.7:

forrest seed
set i18n in forrest.properties to true
copied site.xml to site_de.xml and added some German text

In Internet Explorer choose German using Tools > Internet Options.. (General tab Languages), as my first language!

What happened:

Menu showed up in German but index.html was displayed not index_de.html!

What am I doing something wrong?

Regards,
Gerard

G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 27, 2006, 2:58 AM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hoi Forrest Users,

Sorry, problem solved! I didn't read carefully enough!

Regards,
Gerard

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Verhaag, Geert
Verzonden: dinsdag 27 juni 2006 12:43
Aan: user [at] forrest
Onderwerp: RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site!

Hoi Forresters,

After some reading, I tried the following using forrest-0.7:

forrest seed
set i18n in forrest.properties to true

Note: Should be index.de.xml instead of index_de.xml!

copied site.xml to site_de.xml and added some German text

....

Cyriaque.Dupoirieux at pcotech

Jun 28, 2006, 3:12 AM

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Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hi,

Does it work with the dispatcher in forrest 0.8 ?
I don't ask to Gerard who is working with the 0.7 but if anyone knows...

Salutations,
Cyriaque,

le 27/06/2006 12:43 G.Verhaag [at] lrcb a écrit :
> Hoi Forresters,
>
> After some reading, I tried the following using forrest-0.7:
>
> forrest seed
> set i18n in forrest.properties to true
> copied site.xml to site_de.xml and added some German text
>
> In Internet Explorer choose German using Tools > Internet Options.. (General tab Languages), as my first language!
>
> What happened:
>
> Menu showed up in German but index.html was displayed not index_de.html!
>
> What am I doing something wrong?
>
> Regards,
> Gerard
>
>
>

thorsten.scherler at wyona

Jun 28, 2006, 3:45 AM

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Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

El mié, 28-06-2006 a las 13:12 +0200, Cyriaque Dupoirieux escribió:
> Hi,
>
> Does it work with the dispatcher in forrest 0.8 ?
> I don't ask to Gerard who is working with the 0.7 but if anyone knows...

Never tried myself, but should work since the implementation is AFAIR
skin independent.

salu2

>
> Salutations,
> Cyriaque,
>
> le 27/06/2006 12:43 G.Verhaag [at] lrcb a écrit :
> > Hoi Forresters,
> >
> > After some reading, I tried the following using forrest-0.7:
> >
> > forrest seed
> > set i18n in forrest.properties to true
> > copied site.xml to site_de.xml and added some German text
> >
> > In Internet Explorer choose German using Tools > Internet Options.. (General tab Languages), as my first language!
> >
> > What happened:
> >
> > Menu showed up in German but index.html was displayed not index_de.html!
> >
> > What am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gerard
> >
> >
> >
--
Thorsten Scherler
COO Spain
Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com http://lenya.apache.org
thorsten.scherler [at] wyona thorsten [at] apache

thorsten at apache

Jun 28, 2006, 3:55 AM

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Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

El mié, 28-06-2006 a las 13:45 +0200, Thorsten Scherler escribió:
> El mié, 28-06-2006 a las 13:12 +0200, Cyriaque Dupoirieux escribió:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does it work with the dispatcher in forrest 0.8 ?
> > I don't ask to Gerard who is working with the 0.7 but if anyone knows...
>
> Never tried myself, but should work since the implementation is AFAIR
> skin independent.

Just tried. ;)

http://localhost:8888/samples/demo-i18n.html?locale=fr

Shows french so yes it works.

...but the navigation (menu/tabs) is not switching to french. Meaning we
need to control the matches in the dataModel.xmap.

salu2

> salu2
>
> >
> > Salutations,
> > Cyriaque,
> >
> > le 27/06/2006 12:43 G.Verhaag [at] lrcb a écrit :
> > > Hoi Forresters,
> > >
> > > After some reading, I tried the following using forrest-0.7:
> > >
> > > forrest seed
> > > set i18n in forrest.properties to true
> > > copied site.xml to site_de.xml and added some German text
> > >
> > > In Internet Explorer choose German using Tools > Internet Options.. (General tab Languages), as my first language!
> > >
> > > What happened:
> > >
> > > Menu showed up in German but index.html was displayed not index_de.html!
> > >
> > > What am I doing something wrong?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gerard
> > >
> > >
> > >
--
thorsten

"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)

G.Verhaag at lrcb

Jun 29, 2006, 2:57 AM

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RE: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

Hoi Forrest Users,

It's still about the multilanguage topic, so I posted this message using the same thread!

I've managed to play a bit with multilanguage features of forrest, after some difficulties. But subscribing to this list has given me some insight in this topic. Thanks!

However I've another question related to the Dutch (nl) language. Messages in the layout of the page (e.g. Last Published, Font Size) are not being rendered in Dutch. Am I right in saying that this has to do with the fact that in the directory apache-forrest-0.7/main/webapp/skins/common/translations there exists no CommonMessages_nl file?

Is it possible to add such a file in the current project I'm working at?

Is it perhaps possible to add full Dutch support in a future release of forrest?

Thanks!

Regards,
Gerard

rgardler at apache

Jun 29, 2006, 6:35 AM

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Re: How to Setup Multilanguage Site! [In reply to]

G.Verhaag [at] lrcb wrote:
> Hoi Forrest Users,
>
> It's still about the multilanguage topic, so I posted this message using the same thread!
>
> I've managed to play a bit with multilanguage features of forrest, after some difficulties. But subscribing to this list has given me some insight in this topic. Thanks!
>
> However I've another question related to the Dutch (nl) language. Messages in the layout of the page (e.g. Last Published, Font Size) are not being rendered in Dutch. Am I right in saying that this has to do with the fact that in the directory apache-forrest-0.7/main/webapp/skins/common/translations there exists no CommonMessages_nl file?

Yes (at least I think so, I've never used i18n)

> Is it possible to add such a file in the current project I'm working at?

Yes. Just add it in the relevant location on your local Forrest
installation.

> Is it perhaps possible to add full Dutch support in a future release of forrest?

Yes, please add the file to an issue in our Jira tracker and a committer
will add it to SVN so that it gets included in future releases. Your
contribution would be most welcome.

See http://forrest.apache.org/issues.html

Ross

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