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matt.mailinglists at gmail

Jul 13, 2012, 2:50 PM

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SSD Drives

Anyone using SSD drives to run there entire email server with a
thousands of accounts? Any issues with cells on the SSD going bad?

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exim-users at spodhuis

Jul 14, 2012, 1:34 AM

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On 2012-07-13 at 16:50 -0500, Matt wrote:
> Anyone using SSD drives to run there entire email server with a
> thousands of accounts? Any issues with cells on the SSD going bad?

No; but I can speak to the issues.

Loosely speaking, a mail-server which is an MTA relay is going to be
heavily I/O bound, with as much writing as reading, while an IMAP server
might be skewed more towards reading.

All but the most recent SSDs are very fast for reading, but slow for
writing. They're not really much better (if at all) suited for
mail-server work than a spinning disk. Some of the dedicated memory
devices would have been better fits.

But now the latest generation of SSDs match read and write speeds and
the reliability is way up. I'd be inclined to look more closely at
them, if you have queues which can grow large and need many
queue-runners to process.

You're looking for *both* read and write speed to be at least 500MB/s,
in the 80k-90k IOPS range, for this to hold.

For the laptop I'm writing this via, I bought one of these from NewEgg:
OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid
State Drive (SSD)
$300, purchased while it was on offer at $240.

This was based upon discussion and advice from a friend who knows
significantly more than me about memory technologies (he used to work
for a memory manufacturer).

Given the lack of seek time, and the raw speed of these, they're worth
looking at *if* you're hitting an I/O bottleneck; but be aware that
doing so is increasing the size of the failure domain when one machine
goes down, so it's also worth considering if spreading your workload
over more machines is a better solution, just based on what happens when
you lose one or more of them.

-Phil

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exim.list at daevel

Jul 14, 2012, 3:20 AM

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On 14/07/2012 10:34, Phil Pennock wrote:
> or the laptop I'm writing this via, I bought one of these from NewEgg:
> OCZ Vertex 4 VTX4-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid
> State Drive (SSD)
> $300, purchased while it was on offer at $240.


Well, we have a "OCZ Vertex 4" too on our dev server, and we have a lot of problems. In each heavy I/O, it "disconnect". We have to shutdown the server then restart it
It really not a model that I will recommend for production.

Instead on our production servers we only have Intel models, which are slowers than OCZ, but we haven't get any trouble with them.


Olivier

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jeff at jab

Jul 14, 2012, 10:50 AM

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Re: SSD Drives [In reply to]

It's too early to tell for sure, but we've had good luck with the
Samsung 830 on a busy system that includes an MTA.

http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip [at] jab/msg01425.html

-Jeff

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andrej at antiszoc

Jul 16, 2012, 12:55 AM

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 10:50:42 -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
> It's too early to tell for sure, but we've had good luck with the
> Samsung 830 on a busy system that includes an MTA.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/gossip [at] jab/msg01425.html
>
> -Jeff

Hi,

We also have good luck with Samsung 830 ones (512GB in RAID1) but
they're not under a mailserver. I'd recommend to use RAID1+0 or 5+0
config to spread out the writes and it's also give you a speed bump.
Also note that these drives will really shine on SATA 6G connections,
but of course the much smaller latency and greater sequential IO
capability compared to a HDD will show on SATA 3G or at even SATA 1.5G
connections also.

From the management point of view you'll want to check the "Wear
leveling count" or the #177 smart attribute. This shows how many P/E
cycles has been done by the drive. It's said that these consumer drives
are between 3k-5k cycles, but there are also reports about more, so I
think that's the worst case. Anyway spare(s) should be kept on the shelf
as usual. :)

Regards,
Andras

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