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Klaus+exim at Ethgen

Jun 14, 2012, 6:29 AM

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Hello folks,

I have a small problem with errors_to. I have to send errors for several
mails to a special address. That work fine using the errors_to setting.
But the errors_to also set the envelope-from to the respective address.
That must not happens at all. The envelope-from must be the original
one.

I tried to set address_data to $sender_address in the router as advised
and use that for return_path in transport but that does not work.

Is there any way to enforce sending errors on that host to a different
person than to the envelope sender without modifying it?

Regards
Klaus
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wbh at conducive

Jun 14, 2012, 8:27 AM

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Re: errors_to [In reply to]
Klaus Ethgen wrote:
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> Hello folks,
>
> I have a small problem with errors_to. I have to send errors for several
> mails to a special address. That work fine using the errors_to setting.
> But the errors_to also set the envelope-from to the respective address.
> That must not happens at all. The envelope-from must be the original
> one.
>
> I tried to set address_data to $sender_address in the router as advised
> and use that for return_path in transport but that does not work.
>
> Is there any way to enforce sending errors on that host to a different
> person than to the envelope sender without modifying it?
>
> Regards
> Klaus

I may be dense (again) but that appears to be two different needs?

$envelope_from handling/re-writing/NOT - for an edge-case ONLY,
..and choice of report destination?

All CAN be handled however you need them to be.

If the destination is not [the | a] sysadmin, rewrite control rules may
be in order.

As our errors were few, and seldom mysterious, we found it simpler to
justify - or not - a look at logs and the 'original' - archived with an
'unseen' router if/as/when appropriate.

YMMV

Bill
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exim-users at spodhuis

Jun 14, 2012, 6:16 PM

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Re: errors_to [In reply to]
On 2012-06-14 at 14:29 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> I have a small problem with errors_to. I have to send errors for several
> mails to a special address. That work fine using the errors_to setting.
> But the errors_to also set the envelope-from to the respective address.
> That must not happens at all. The envelope-from must be the original
> one.
>
> I tried to set address_data to $sender_address in the router as advised
> and use that for return_path in transport but that does not work.
>
> Is there any way to enforce sending errors on that host to a different
> person than to the envelope sender without modifying it?

Not really, that comes to mind, other than the documented approach,
which should work. It's tested in the test suite, as test 0253.

Perhaps you could provide more details about how you configured it,
including routers and transports, what actually happened, and the
log-lines from the delivery?

-Phil

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Klaus+exim at Ethgen

Jun 20, 2012, 5:36 AM

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Re: errors_to [In reply to]
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Hello,

Am Fr den 15. Jun 2012 um 2:16 schrieb Phil Pennock:
> On 2012-06-14 at 14:29 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > I have a small problem with errors_to. I have to send errors for several
> > mails to a special address. That work fine using the errors_to setting.
> > But the errors_to also set the envelope-from to the respective address.
> > That must not happens at all. The envelope-from must be the original
> > one.
> >
> > I tried to set address_data to $sender_address in the router as advised
> > and use that for return_path in transport but that does not work.
> >
> > Is there any way to enforce sending errors on that host to a different
> > person than to the envelope sender without modifying it?
>
> Not really, that comes to mind, other than the documented approach,
> which should work. It's tested in the test suite, as test 0253.

Hmm.. That is more or less as I did. Well, it seems that I tuned the
wrong transport. :-( Now it works. B-)

Thanks
Klaus
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Klaus+exim at Ethgen

Jun 27, 2012, 9:54 AM

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Re: errors_to [In reply to]
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I have to roll up the problem again. First here is the relevant parts
how I solved it:
smarthost:
debug_print = "R: smarthost for $local_part@$domain"
driver = manualroute
domains = ! +local_domains
transport = remote_smtp_smarthost
route_list = * DCsmarthost byname
hosts_randomize = true
host_find_failed = defer
same_domain_copy_routing = yes
address_data = $sender_address
errors_to = ${perl{ldap_get_hostmaster}{$sender_host_address}}
no_verify
no_more

...

remote_smtp_smarthost:
debug_print = "T: remote_smtp_smarthost for $local_part@$domain"
driver = smtp
max_rcpt = 1
return_path = $address_data

Now I have a strange behaviour. If I send a mail to one or more
_different_ domains, everything is fine. But if, and only if, I send a
mail to two or more recipients on the same domain the envelope_from gets
set to <> for all recipients except the last one. The last one gets the
right recipient.

Anybody an idea what could get wrong in that case?

Regards
Klaus
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